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St Landrew

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shurlock

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saints fans penned in an alley for nearly an hour after police kept them in due to fighting outbreaks....

 

nothing of sort -we were kept just outside the ground for 20-25 mins and then it was a slow walk up to the train station. a few of our fans -the usual suspects, the yoof and their paedo minders- kicked off with the OB and were cordoned off. But it was all out of sight of any Millwall fan.

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St Landrew

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I'm not entirely convinced that AP is very clear in his own mind, or he wouldn't have been so quick to return to the tried and trusted 4-4-2. I think we need to be more tactically aware and clever. Nevertheless I didn't expect us to be doing better than we are. Resultwise I'm fairly content, but as far as direction goes I'm feeling quite clueless.

 

Well thing is 4-4-2 is usually effective for a lot of successful teams. Even though I'm not one to jump on a bandwagon, and I hate overly defensive football, I was amongst a few who didn't want us to go to 4-4-2 for away matches, preferring 4-5-1 instead. This meant that the midfield battle should be won on most occasions, and we'd build from there. Besides, we seem to be fairly rich in midfielders who have an eye for goal. Only Schneiderlin and Wotton seem to be short in that department, and one tends to replace the other anyway, although not today, due to Hammond's injury.

 

As it happens, at the beginning of the season, I didn't expect us to be doing anything more than struggling, and we are doing a lot better than that. Playoffs are a real possibility, and I never thought we had the remotest chance back in August. Today's result I am disappointed with, a bit. I can't help it. We are in a strange position of winning loads of matches, yet still being unable to have a hiccup during the season, due to the 10 point penalty. MK Dons had a bad one before Xmas, but have come back strongly. I just hope we can maintain getting wins and draws when we are not at our best. Peculiarly, if we had gone behind and rescued the point I may feel better about it.

 

Not that I care, but I doubt if Millwall fans feel that brilliant either. ;)

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What a shambolic load of crap that was, what the f*** is wrong with Pardew? What the f*** are substitutes for if you don't use them. Today is a black day and we can kiss the play-offs on the Rrse as we wave 'em bye! bye!

 

And we have to endure this crap for a few more months yet..

 

Is Pardew really committed or has he been tapped up by a few Prem sides. On today's evidence he doesn't seem to give a toss whetehr we lose, draw or win.

 

Oh dear ......

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He said himself it was a "must win" game.

 

I wonder if he will be honest with himself and admit he played a role in this debacle ?

 

Have I missed a debacle somewhere? I hate missing debacles. You couldn't recap on exactly what the debacle was for me, could you? Thanks

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Millwall at home: won 8, drawn 3, lost one before today I believe and we have just got a 1-1 draw yet to some people it's the end of the world. Glasgow Saint, I agree it is dissapointing throwing away 2 points like that but surely it is still a good result bearing in mind they have beaten Leeds and Huddersfield at home amongst others. Pardew out? Should have got Lambert? At least being just a registered user of this forum it stops me posting every knee jerk reaction that pops into my head. Constructive critisism is fine but your post lately are just aimed at winding people up. It is all a matter of opinion of course.

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Millwall at home: won 8, drawn 3, lost one before today I believe and we have just got a 1-1 draw yet to some people it's the end of the world. Glasgow Saint, I agree it is dissapointing throwing away 2 points like that but surely it is still a good result bearing in mind they have beaten Leeds and Huddersfield at home amongst others. Pardew out? Should have got Lambert? At least being just a registered user of this forum it stops me posting every knee jerk reaction that pops into my head. Constructive critisism is fine but your post lately are just aimed at winding people up. It is all a matter of opinion of course.

 

 

stump up your fiver and join in the fun. ;)

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Despite the b0llocks which is being written on here tonight, I don't think Pards set out for a draw. But I hope, and I'm sure, he set out not to lose.

 

Imagine the psychological damage to the team, and the squad, if we'd lost 2-0 with our new defence, and lost 3 of our last 4 league games. WE COULD NOT LOSE THIS GAME. We didn't.

 

I'm not over the moon with the result, and the way it came about, but I'm not gutted either. It was an acceptable result, and a great test for the new team. It'll get better (and easier) from here.

 

Pardew's comments on Solent after the game were reassuring and informative. 14 out of 21 is do-able.

 

And telling 8-10 squad members that they need to get out there and find themselves new clubs is good stuff. I'm sure they know who they are, and it will help settle the others down and boost the team spirit in the others.

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I was thinking when rickie scored, sign of a very good team to hardly be in the game then snatch it at the end but i was obviously wrong got a long way to go! Gutted!!!! Where was the ambition to win the game and AP to make some earlier subs. Such as Waigo, Antonio and Connolly!

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Thedelldays

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i think it's the way in which certain people put their views across. ;)

either way...should we tell pardew to stop slitting his wrists and get real that the playoffs are a dream this season..?

 

I think I will back the managers opinion in that today was NOT good and IT WAS 2 points drop...

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he said himself it was a must win

 

do you think he would have left the ground today, a happy man..?

 

Coz we drew and he said it was a must win as you imply or coz we threw away a 1-0 lead at the death? I can't read your confused mind but if it was the first one- I would say yes he would have been very happy with a draw had it not come out of a last gasp equaliser; of couse he wont be happy with how we drew the game but that's a different point.

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I was thinking when rickie scored, sign of a very good team to hardly be in the game then snatch it at the end but i was obviously wrong got a long way to go! Gutted!!!! Where was the ambition to win the game and AP to make some earlier subs. Such as Waigo, Antonio and Connolly!

 

They put us under alot of pressure in the 2nd half. The whole tempo and balance of the half was against throwing an attacker on too early.

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Coz we drew and he said it was a must win as you imply or coz we threw away a 1-0 lead at the death? I can't read your confused mind but if it was the first one- I would say yes he would have been very happy with a draw had it not come out of a last gasp equaliser; of couse he wont be happy with how we drew the game but that's a different point.

but he is NOT happy with a draw..in the real world that is..nothing to do with what he wanted before the game..the game is over and pardew is NOT happy that we dropped points...and we did, in the end, drop the points...

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stump up your fiver and join in the fun. ;)

 

Im not sure I would trust myself with unlimited posts Scotty. After 28 years of following Saints my posts would be too depressing!! (like a few others on here) Anyway play-offs were always a pipe dream and anything could still happen but I am just delighted at how far we have come since the summer. Let's remember it is a 5 year plan and personally I dont think the first 6 months have gone too bad.

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How did he cost us? It is a case of what if's. If he changed the team by putting David up front who was he going to take off? Would we have then had to go 4-3-3 as lallana was up front with Lambert? Considering they were dominating midfield was it really a wise decision to give them even more space in midfield by reducing our numbers there?

 

Should we have taken James off and put Waigo up front with Lallana coming into the centre? Would Lallana have battled as well and controlled the midfield any better from there?

 

As i said it is a case of what If's. I was not there but speaking to my friend who was say's soon as Hammond went off that screwed our whole midfield up. If Antonio had put 1 of his three chances away or the defence held out how would people have been talking now? Would you be saying Pardew got it right because we won? etc etc

 

People are overreacting and as far as i can tell the whole defence is "we would of won if Pardew changed xyz", when there is no gurantee at all that would of happened. He put Antonio on and the boy should of scored. 1 defensive lapse meant we drew, that is not Pardew's fault.

 

Excellent assessment - good post, balanced and thoughtful.

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but he is NOT happy with a draw..in the real world that is..nothing to do with what he wanted before the game..the game is over and pardew is NOT happy that we dropped points...and we did, in the end, drop the points...

 

But not because we drew -or dropped points as you put- but the manner it happened. that's a different point.

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If the goals were the other way around (they scored and then we scored with the last kick of the game) would those few people angry still be angry? Because the result would be the same.

of course not...but like it or not...WE threw away the points...

 

if we were 4-0 with 1 min to go...would you be happy..? seeing as a draw is a good result to you..?

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St Landrew

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Fielding the wrong team, with the wrong tactics, and when finally doing something about it, there wasnt enough time to win the game convincingly.

 

To be honest, I would have just been happy to have won the game. Winning it convincingly wouldn't have been necessary. It can't always be 3-1 or 2-0.

 

In his interview with Radio Solent, it was clear Pardew sounded disappointed. But he was pleased with the debut players, and Lee Holmes. Personally, I thought he was taking quite a risk, and we nearly got away with it. It's clear, with our fixture congestion over the next weeks, that some players have got to step in, and I suppose they have to do that at the tough matches too. Even when we think they shouldn't

 

One beef I do have. If Connolly isn't fit, and is actually off form, and AP was reluctant to play him, why was he on the bench..? Surely that would be enough excuse to pop Saganowski there..? After all, it couldn't have hurt, and he is still getting paid.

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