OldNick Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 I haven't really seen much of todays game except reading a few posts on here before halftime where KD made 2 saves to keep us in the game.I then heard a bullitin about the 2 goals. I then read the anti AP comments on here and can't believe it. It is the players fault that you let a goal in within 20 secs. They were unprofessional and Im surprised that Wotton or a midfielder(if he was on the pitch still) didnt foul the bloke to stop the attack. I assume as we hav'nt had a change of manager for 6months we need our fix...it is amazing and the snipers should take a look at themselves, i do truly believe we do have some Pompey fans who come on as saints fans trying to unsettle. Only Pompey fans would be wanting a change to unsettle us at this stage. The JPT is our best chance this season and the PO were always going to be difficult Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLT's Headed Goals Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 You know what, I think that's fair comment. Yes, we have been winning, on the whole but, we've being doing a lot of winning and getting results without playing that well. I'm trying to remember a few league games in the last couple of months where we've actually played really well and won. And I can't think of one. I would say it has only been for the last couple of months though - since halfway through November. Seems churlish to moan about that, but I will, because once you come up against a really good team, you can't play badly anymore. And you can't be successful by playing badly for the remaining time and get away with it. We played well and won at Walsall but I take your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 holmes aside who sounded like he had a decent game, how can a back 4 be made up of 3 players who have barely met let alone trained together. Pardon if i am puzzled. If three of the back four have barely met or trained together surely the 4th player won't have trained with or met them either? Shouldn't it have been a back four that had hardly??????????????? In which case I would imagine that we did reasonably well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Oh my God, this must take the biscuit for over reaction. You have to laugh when people post crap like this. I hope you are joking Charlie. Good result against team that have only lost once at home this season and have won 8 of the other 11. :smt038 Exactly my thoughts. I was hopeful of a point prior to KO and more than happy with the result. Of course 3 points would have been better but we were playing a team that was good at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Just back from the game. Fair result in the end but still gutted. Ref was very weak, they were all over lambert all game. First free kick we get and we score. Ostembor doesn't look great but the two at cb were very good. Fonte will be a star. Kd man of the match by far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macthesaint Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Just coming out of 'the cage' at millwall. Millwall deserved a point to be fair. If it wasn't for kelvin we could have easily been 3 down. Rickies goal was very lucky with the deflection but it is incredibly gutting to concede literally straight away. I think it was semi who let his man run at him and cut inside to slot it past Davis. Would have taken a point before but losing the lead that way is gutting. Antonio looked very good feeding off Lambert upfront. That is how we need to use him, as an impact sub. Finally holmes got his chance and he looked very useful! Fonte looks class but seaborne was shakey at times. Wotton did well when he came on for Hammond but semi looked quite lazy. Cheers Genk,best to hear from someone who had the balls to go into the Den. Fun place isn't it? Safe journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 16 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2010 (edited) I haven't really seen much of todays game except reading a few posts on here before halftime where KD made 2 saves to keep us in the game.I then heard a bullitin about the 2 goals. I then read the anti AP comments on here and can't believe it. It is the players fault that you let a goal in within 20 secs. They were unprofessional and Im surprised that Wotton or a midfielder(if he was on the pitch still) didnt foul the bloke to stop the attack. I assume as we hav'nt had a change of manager for 6months we need our fix...it is amazing and the snipers should take a look at themselves, i do truly believe we do have some Pompey fans who come on as saints fans trying to unsettle. Only Pompey fans would be wanting a change to unsettle us at this stage. The JPT is our best chance this season and the PO were always going to be difficult Calm, calm. You're in danger of overreacting almost as much a those who are suggesting a change of manager. Anybody who is sensible realises the best thing we need to do is carry on with the present setup. The problem is, many fans don't know what it is like to support Saints and have the same manager in place for more than 5 minutes. But they'll get used to it. Edited 16 January, 2010 by St Landrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Kd man of the match by far. When you see this week some on here still questioning his ability , it is amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Calm, calm. You're in danger of overreacting almost as much a those who are suggesting a change of manager. Anybody who is sensible realises the best thing we need to do is carry on with the present setup. the problem is, many fan don't know what it is like to support Saints and have the same manager in place for more than 5 minutes. But they'll get used to it. It is not me who needs to stay calm StL. It is ridiculous but thats football fans for you. We have many fans who put their hands in the fire,got badly burnt then do it afgain and again as they can't comprehend why it hurt so much the first 5 times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 If it all goes swimmingly and we win it will be called a master stroke by AP If it all goes t i t s up it will be "AP has lost it"... Thought i would post the above again from the buIld up thread... Really sums this place up... Some real overreactional/toys out of pram idiots on here today... The posts would have been so so different from those described above if we had won,don`t try to deny it as you ALL know it`s true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 16 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2010 It is not me who needs to stay calm StL. It is ridiculous but thats football fans for you. We have many fans who put their hands in the fire,got badly burnt then do it afgain and again as they can't comprehend why it hurt so much the first 5 times. Yes I agree, but to suggest that we have some Pompey fans on here who masquerade as Saints fans, is overreacting a tad. I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Pathetic bunch of non match going drama queens. nail on head. and they all know better than AP apparently. :smt046 Just back from game and disappointed overall, but was impressed with Fonte and Antonio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 If it all goes swimmingly and we win it will be called a master stroke by AP If it all goes t i t s up it will be "AP has lost it"... Thought i would post the above again from the buIld up thread... Really sums this place up... Some real overreactional/toys out of pram idiots on here today... The posts would have been so so different from those described above if we had won,don`t try to deny it as you ALL know it`s true. Almost...there are a few who shout the team down even when we win, and they know who they are!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 I haven't really seen much of todays game except reading a few posts on here before halftime where KD made 2 saves to keep us in the game.I then heard a bullitin about the 2 goals. I then read the anti AP comments on here and can't believe it. It is the players fault that you let a goal in within 20 secs. They were unprofessional and Im surprised that Wotton or a midfielder(if he was on the pitch still) didnt foul the bloke to stop the attack. I assume as we hav'nt had a change of manager for 6months we need our fix...it is amazing and the snipers should take a look at themselves, i do truly believe we do have some Pompey fans who come on as saints fans trying to unsettle. Only Pompey fans would be wanting a change to unsettle us at this stage. The JPT is our best chance this season and the PO were always going to be difficult Good post nick.. Quite incredible some of the reaction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Yes I agree, but to suggest that we have some Pompey fans on here who masquerade as Saints fans, is overreacting a tad. I feel. Perhaps but the way that some seem very keen to destabilise makes me believe so.I suspect there are saints fans who do the same elsewhere. I am not aiming that at Alpine by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Pathetic bunch of non match going drama queens. Yep spot on.... someone has to pick up all the toys after them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mick channon windmill Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Yep no play offs we are just not good enough end of shut up idiot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 You know what, I think that's fair comment. Yes, we have been winning, on the whole but, we've being doing a lot of winning and getting results without playing that well. I'm trying to remember a few league games in the last couple of months where we've actually played really well and won. And I can't think of one. I would say it has only been for the last couple of months though - since halfway through November. Seems churlish to moan about that, but I will, because once you come up against a really good team, you can't play badly anymore. And you can't be successful by playing badly for the remaining time and get away with it. Thanks for your comments. That is my concern in the long run as well. Reading played very much like us against Man U, and won. But that isn't a sign that it is working. It was a one-off, and Reading doesn't belong in the PL. Being at the bottom of CCC is the sign that it isn't working for them, and I don't think it would work any better for us. Looking forward to the CCC and the PL I am very aware that we can never expect to sign the best players in the world and compete in the transfer market with Man U and Chelsea. So we need to do something else to give us an edge, and I just don't think that huffing and puffing does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 16 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2010 If it all goes swimmingly and we win it will be called a master stroke by AP If it all goes t i t s up it will be "AP has lost it"... Thought i would post the above again from the buIld up thread... Really sums this place up... Some real overreactional/toys out of pram idiots on here today... The posts would have been so so different from those described above if we had won,don`t try to deny it as you ALL know it`s true. Yeah. I really, really wish football fans would learn to write in terms of black, through all the grey shades, to white. Rather than just black to white. Some on here already do, but some certainly do not. Shame really, because the debate would be so much more interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Some on here strike me as being the type of parent that has an unhealthy fat child, but is happy because the child seems happy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 3 of the back 4 were new & making their debuts. We haven't played a game for a fortnight. 1-1 at a very difficult place to go - very difficult indeed. Annoying the way we conceded so late - but these things happen. My glass is still half full on the play-off issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 saints fans penned in an alley for nearly an hour after police kept them in due to fighting outbreaks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadiz saint Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 How can we be dissapointed with a point away from home, Milwall are very strong at home and a point is a good point. Get real we will not win every game, Leeds lost at Exeter, I don't suppose their fans have lost faith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubsaint Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Even with all that money, Saints haven't changed, we have it won and then just give it away.............Please lets get it together, also surprised we used all 3 new players ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Some on here strike me as being the type of parent that has an unhealthy fat child, but is happy because the child seems happy! And some people are never happy unless everything is perfect but would moan even then because they don`t know how to stop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 suppose we should all be happy we threw 2pts away in the last seconds. I must have missed the posts wanting ap out.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 And some people are never happy unless everything is perfect but would moan even then because they don`t know how to stop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 The JPT is our best chance this season and the PO were always going to be difficult I agree and we are building for a promotion push next season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 suppose we should all be happy we threw 2pts away in the last seconds. I must have missed the posts wanting ap out.....? No! not happy but not bordering on suicidal either.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 I dont want pardew out..I dont want anyone out...I think pardew is a good manager however, letting slip a lead in the last 20 seconds of a game when you have just scored is not acceptable..I doubt pardew finds it acceptable either... we should have won the game...letting 2 points drop in the last 20 secinds against anyone in league 1 is not a good result Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 (edited) Lol Ask them to give their reaction to the game.. I`m sure it won`t be as stupid as yours... Edited 16 January, 2010 by ALWAYS_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge_B Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Some on here strike me as being the type of parent that has an unhealthy fat child, but is happy because the child seems happy! That's funny, some on here strike me as the sort of parent that sees their child give it their all, come home from the exam with a B and shout in their face "NOT GOOD ENOUGH! GET TO YOUR ROOM!!" Still, nice analogy, well done you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 16 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Thanks for your comments. That is my concern in the long run as well. Reading played very much like us against Man U, and won. But that isn't a sign that it is working. It was a one-off, and Reading doesn't belong in the PL. Being at the bottom of CCC is the sign that it isn't working for them, and I don't think it would work any better for us. Looking forward to the CCC and the PL I am very aware that we can never expect to sign the best players in the world and compete in the transfer market with Man U and Chelsea. So we need to do something else to give us an edge, and I just don't think that huffing and puffing does it. Yes, I think you're right again. However, I believe Pardew is an astute enough manager to know what is effective in which particular league he is managing in. League One, in a sense, is a huff and puff work rate league, with a smattering of very good skill. The CCC balance is more towards pace and more skill, and the Premiership even more so, with the top teams being the elite in all departments. It just so happens that, in a one-off situation, huff and puff and a smattering of skill works occasionally, even against an elite side, if a lower league team is well drilled. But play, best out of 5 matches or more, and we know who'll win most. Since we don't have to worry overly much about the financing for players, I think Saints will change to whatever is most effective in whatever league they are playing in, and is best suited to the players at the club as well. This is a 5 year year plan, after all, that at the outset, didn't involve being promoted this season. So we'll need to get a shoofty on when it is planned that we actually do get promoted, and that involves not struggling with players that aren't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 We need to go back to 4-5-1. It was working. So why the feck did we change it?? In one word: Connolly. You don't seem to be able to play 4-5-1 with him in the team. It also seemed, not only on the fans, but also on AP that 4-5-1 was something that he did reluctantly until he could get back to the old 4-4-2 which seems to give everyone some sense of security, I can't figure out why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 No! not happy but not bordering on suicidal either..must take more beta blockers..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 just back from the game.firstly lets say before the game i would have taken a draw,millwall have only lost once at home all season.i believe ap played for the point.we were pretty poor at times and if it wasnt for kd with his double save in the first half and then one in the second we would have lost.papa or antonio should have been used earlier,when antonio came on he had millwall on the backfoot.harding wasnt having one of his better games,fonte was good,seabourne i will hold judgement but wasnt too bad.there was a lot of hoof ball to lambert but no shots of note at all.have to say we need to improve our movement on the pitch we dont have many options if lambert gets the ball.a great day out,atmosphere was good for most of the game,millwall were woeful,no singing for the first 15 minutes from there end.play offs are out of our reach now ,hopefuly we learn from today,was still celebrating our goal when they scored ,so dont even know how they did,coyr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red&White Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Pathetic bunch of non match going drama queens. So right mate :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 The JPT is our best chance this season and the PO were always going to be difficult Our fate vis a vis the play-offs was decided after the first 6 games of the season. Anyone wth half a neurone and some knowledge of third tier football could see that. Although AP keeps talking about play-offs I doubt if anyone at the club has really believed we will be there for a long long time. Our objective is the JPT and we had Wednesday in mind today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Not enough in mid-field. And Antonio/Papa should have been on from the start. We lacked punch and speed. Bad to draw in final minute.. Typical really. I reckon it is because we cheered too loud after our goal and it distracted them. Draw was probably fair though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Yes, I think you're right again. However, I believe Pardew is an astute enough manager to know what is effective in which particular league he is managing in. League One, in a sense, is a huff and puff work rate league, with a smattering of very good skill. The CCC balance is more towards pace and more skill, and the Premiership even more so, with the top teams being the elite in all departments. It just so happens that, in a one-off situation, huff and puff and a smattering of skill works occasionally, even against an elite side, if a lower league team is well drilled. But play, best out of 5 matches or more, and we know who'll win most. Since we don't have to worry overly much about the financing for players, I think Saints will change to whatever is most effective in whatever league they are playing in, and is best suited to the players at the club as well. This is a 5 year year plan, after all, that at the outset, didn't involve being promoted this season. So we'll need to get a shoofty on when it is planned that we actually do get promoted, and that involves not struggling with players that aren't good enough. I'm not entirely convinced that AP is very clear in his own mind, or he wouldn't have been so quick to return to the tried and trusted 4-4-2. I think we need to be more tactically aware and clever. Nevertheless I didn't expect us to be doing better than we are. Resultwise I'm fairly content, but as far as direction goes I'm feeling quite clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 (edited) Just back from the game - surprisingly not as downhearted as a last-gasp equaliser following a seeming smash-and-grab might suggest. Probably the acknowledgment that we didn't really deserve to win the game. Always going to be a hard game given we were bedding in three new defenders and we lost Hammond - as well as the New Den being a bit of a fortress. Thought Seabourne had a very poor game -maybe nerves but was beaten to ball too many times, nutmegged in our own area, misplaced headers and clearances. Fonte was a canny operator (though maybe the ref sussed him towards the end) and I thought Ostemobor had a decent game,though he didn't take full advantage of some of the space he was given down the right. In terms of the two fullbacks, most questions were asked of Harding. I thought Holmes had a very promising game, especially bearing in mind he hasn't played since Carlisle away (or something like that). Linked well with Lallana (who didn;t have his best game alongside Lambert) and looked comfortable with the ball at his feet under pressure. At least a player whose first instinct wasn't to hoof it. Certainly gives Pards more options in terms of Lallana's position. Ref had a shocker. Was far too lenient. Only booked one of their players when 5 or 6 should have gone into the book. Lambert was given no protection. Had the ref taken control, it would have been a different game. Millwall really exploited the ref's leniency. Don't know how serious Hammond's injury is but it did expose how thin we are in midfield - still unsure whether we need another combative midfield general or a more attacking AM- today suggested the former; though I would go with the latter. Hopefully next week will see an arrival or two there. Edited 16 January, 2010 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 I agree and we are building for a promotion push next season I've thought for a while that the club had decided that the JPT was the priority for this season and automatic promotion for next and the play offs, this year, would be an added bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 I dont want pardew out..I dont want anyone out...I think pardew is a good manager however, letting slip a lead in the last 20 seconds of a game when you have just scored is not acceptable..I doubt pardew finds it acceptable either... we should have won the game...letting 2 points drop in the last 20 secinds against anyone in league 1 is not a good result That's true, but in recent seasons we would have conceded late but not have scored at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 (edited) I dont want pardew out..I dont want anyone out...I think pardew is a good manager however, letting slip a lead in the last 20 seconds of a game when you have just scored is not acceptable..I doubt pardew finds it acceptable either... we should have won the game...letting 2 points drop in the last 20 secinds against anyone in league 1 is not a good result Why!!!.......were you there DD, no, and neither was I, but I gather that for a couple of 'world class' saves, we would have been beaten, so pray explain how and why we should of won....at times you sound very 'Scottish', not from Glasgow perchance?? Edited 16 January, 2010 by Gingeletiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 jpt is a tin pot trophy that pretty much means nothing. To prioritise that is a mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Why!!!.......were you there DD, no, and neither was I, but I gather that for a couple of 'world class' saves, we would have been beaten, so play explain how and why we should of won....at times you sound very 'Scottish', not from Glasgow perchance?? anytime you are 1-0 up with 30 seconds to go..I would say as a multi million pound team..we should have beaten millwall what happened the previous 90-odd mins had no bearing on the fact we did not hang on for 30 seconds.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gis Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 Lucky to get a point today, but a bit gutted we didn't take all three after scoring right at the end. Positives to come from the match are that Fonte is Claus reborn. Tall, skilful, commanding in the air or on the ground. Not so certain yet about Dan Seaborne who couldn't seem to win anything in the air during the first half, but looked a lot better in the second. Ostemebor didn't show too much; but I didn't get that nervous feeling I always have with James at right back - actually the pair seem to compliment each other well and I reckon they will form a good partnership on the right. Antonio was great in his cameo performance in the last few minutes and warmed us up again because in general the match was pretty dross. Don't expect to see a worse referee again this season - he missed so much, got so many blatant decisions wrong, and how we had two booked and none from Millwall I'll never understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 christ on a f*cking bike, I just got in from work, we were out all day in the van. last delivery, I heard the customers radio on solent," and ricky lambert has won the game for saints in injury time!!!"...beaming ear to ear we finish the job and scoot to the pub for a celebratory pint of thatchers, switch the phone on and see the draw, ffs it almost feels like a defeat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 anytime you are 1-0 up with 30 seconds to go..I would say as a multi million pound team..we should have beaten STOKE millwall what happened the previous 90-odd mins had no bearing on the fact we did not hang on for 30 seconds.. Um!!!!!!!!!! Liverpool!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackedoff Posted 16 January, 2010 Share Posted 16 January, 2010 AP on Thursday: Sometimes when you get new players in you have to take one step back to go forwards. But some people don't bother listening. More fool them. AP during the week " The play-offs are now a real target ". Then sends his team out to try and get one point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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