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Terrible crime I know and sad that when reading such stories I do not feel suprised by them anymore, had you read something like this 10 years ago you probably would have been struck with horror, not now as violent crimes are too common.

Too easy to say the guy should have just let him take it as is often what is spouted when these things happen but whether its your car, your phone, your ipod or anything else that is yours...fight for it, don't let the pond life think they can just take what is not theirs.

When caught the perpetrators should be dragged behind a car the full length of Winchester Road then, if they survive, put away for a very long time.

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Just up country, in Greater Manchester, a bloke stole a car while the woman who owned it tried to stop him. He ended up deliberately driving into her so that she was thrown up onto the bonnet where she bashed her head, before falling to the ground. She later died of her injuries in hospital. Apparently, a bloke has been arrested in connection with it.

 

We can wring our hands yet again, and again, but that doesn't do anything, in the end, for the woman or her family, who have just had Mum taken away. But, apart from the obvious tragedy of the woman losing her life, you also wonder where the hell where the bloke's brains were..? Where was his humanity, his sense of value for human life, including his own. Because, now his life will take a far worse turn than he ever has imagined, if he has ever imagined anything. He will also have to live with the knowledge that he has stopped a life in its tracks.

 

Of course I hope they throw the book at him. But it won't stop another person stealing a handbag, or a car, or a life. I wish it could.

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Y'know car jacking and theft used to be rife in New Orleans...Until the State changed the law and made your vehicle an extension of your home.....Now in Louisiana, you can shoot on sight any would be car jacker/thief

Car jacking/theft all but ended over night.......Go figure

 

Yeah but yanks are so stupid, If you went up to one and asked where the nearest K-Mart was they'd shoot you, thinking you were gonna jack em off!!

 

Go figure.....................

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Just up country, in Greater Manchester, a bloke stole a car while the woman who owned it tried to stop him. He ended up deliberately driving into her so that she was thrown up onto the bonnet where she bashed her head, before falling to the ground. She later died of her injuries in hospital. Apparently, a bloke has been arrested in connection with it.

 

We can wring our hands yet again, and again, but that doesn't do anything, in the end, for the woman or her family, who have just had Mum taken away. But, apart from the obvious tragedy of the woman losing her life, you also wonder where the hell where the bloke's brains were..? Where was his humanity, his sense of value for human life, including his own. Because, now his life will take a far worse turn than he ever has imagined, if he has ever imagined anything. He will also have to live with the knowledge that he has stopped a life in its tracks.

Of course I hope they throw the book at him. But it won't stop another person stealing a handbag, or a car, or a life. I wish it could.

 

 

I think that you may be wrong there, so many people don't give a sh!t now, this guy will probably think on it as a badge of honour that he has killed, and will be boasting to his equally gutless mates. So many of the underclass smirk their way through their trials now and seem proud of what they have done.

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Both these cases are horrible and though I agree with your proposed punishment, Influenced, I don't think they are any more common than 10 years ago (which is why they still make national news).

I generally consider myself a "bleedin'-heart liberal", but these scum-bags knew what they were doing, had no need to commit these crimes and therefore should be removed from the gene pool..

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But this pensioner was deliberately flaunting his wealth by buying petrol in front of this poor individual who probably hadn't been provided with enough fags by the Social.

The poor lad was probably stressed and needed a lift into town to shop lift from Primark in order to raise enough money for food for his dog, Tyson.

 

I hope this case highlights this poor creatures circumstances and he gets provided with a nice new flat for him and his 16 year old pregnant girlfriend and the 4 kids.

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But this pensioner was deliberately flaunting his wealth by buying petrol in front of this poor individual who probably hadn't been provided with enough fags by the Social.

The poor lad was probably stressed and needed a lift into town to shop lift from Primark in order to raise enough money for food for his dog, Tyson.

 

I hope this case highlights this poor creatures circumstances and he gets provided with a nice new flat for him and his 16 year old pregnant girlfriend and the 4 kids.

 

Spot on Hatch. How the f is he supposed to get to the dole office to sign on? He needed that car more than the old chap.

 

Seriously though, someone must have witnessed this, maybe even on the forecourt camera?

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The poor lad was probably stressed and needed a lift into town to shop lift from Primark in order to raise enough money for food for his dog, Tyson.

 

I hope this case highlights this poor creatures circumstances and he gets provided with a nice new flat for him and his 16 year old pregnant girlfriend and the 4 kids.

 

 

.....not without sending him on a 3 week Caribbean holiday first, in order to help him overcome the stress of this awful ordeal.

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Just up country, in Greater Manchester, a bloke stole a car while the woman who owned it tried to stop him. He ended up deliberately driving into her so that she was thrown up onto the bonnet where she bashed her head, before falling to the ground. She later died of her injuries in hospital. Apparently, a bloke has been arrested in connection with it.

 

Not sure of the full (Manchester) circumstances here, but wasn't there a fella relatively recently who threw himself onto the bonnet and held on for several hundred yards before being thrown off and killed?

 

Not sure what I'd do in that situation, but sitting here at the moment I'd have to say take the car, it's insured.

 

Thankfully we've not gone down to the levels of car jacking in Leeds for example where guns/knives were being pulled on people. My brother lives in what we shall say is not the nicest area, I always lock my doors when driving around.

 

I don't think anything goes through these peoples minds when committing these offences, they're too stupid to think, breath and drive at the same time.

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Y'know car jacking and theft used to be rife in New Orleans...Until the State changed the law and made your vehicle an extension of your home.....Now in Louisiana, you can shoot on sight any would be car jacker/thief

Car jacking/theft all but ended over night.......Go figure

 

Perfect solution :rolleyes:

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What a load of sensationalist ********!!

 

A car jacking usually involves one or two individuals 'hijacking' a car from an individual, usually with the use of a knife or gun to force them out of the car.

 

What we have here is just some opportunist little scumbag stealing a car from an unsuspecting pensioner.

 

I'll bet quite heavily that it has been officially recorded by the police as a car theft rather than a car jacking ;)

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Y'know car jacking and theft used to be rife in New Orleans...Until the State changed the law and made your vehicle an extension of your home.....Now in Louisiana, you can shoot on sight any would be car jacker/thief

Car jacking/theft all but ended over night.......Go figure

 

we really get some silly comments on here:smt015

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I think that you may be wrong there, so many people don't give a sh!t now, this guy will probably think on it as a badge of honour that he has killed, and will be boasting to his equally gutless mates. So many of the underclass smirk their way through their trials now and seem proud of what they have done.

 

Sadly you are so right :(

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Perfect solution :rolleyes:

 

Yes it is....Apart from a few seriously dodgy areas, I can pretty much leave my truck unlocked anywhere around town even with gear in the bed and 'know' it will all still be there when I get back. Thats something peeps in the UK can only dream about these days.....Hell, the same can be said for my house....Leaving the back door unlocked or a window open isn't going to be some kind of 'invitation' for some scum bag to come help them selves....They know they probably wouldn't get out alive....and if they did...they'll be going to jail.....Roll your eyes all you want, but can you say the same?...nope didn't think so....good luck with your belief in allowing the criminals the upper hand, I can see it's working well for you.

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Y'know car jacking and theft used to be rife in New Orleans...Until the State changed the law and made your vehicle an extension of your home.....Now in Louisiana, you can shoot on sight any would be car jacker/thief

Car jacking/theft all but ended over night.......Go figure

 

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa cowboy.

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Yes it is....Apart from a few seriously dodgy areas, I can pretty much leave my truck unlocked anywhere around town even with gear in the bed and 'know' it will all still be there when I get back. Thats something peeps in the UK can only dream about these days.....Hell, the same can be said for my house....Leaving the back door unlocked or a window open isn't going to be some kind of 'invitation' for some scum bag to come help them selves....They know they probably wouldn't get out alive....and if they did...they'll be going to jail.....Roll your eyes all you want, but can you say the same?...nope didn't think so....good luck with your belief in allowing the criminals the upper hand, I can see it's working well for you.

 

Wow, a pro-gun legislation Utopia, I bet there is no crime in New Orleans EVER!

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Y'know car jacking and theft used to be rife in New Orleans...Until the State changed the law and made your vehicle an extension of your home.....Now in Louisiana, you can shoot on sight any would be car jacker/thief

Car jacking/theft all but ended over night.......Go figure

 

Gun crime is rife in America because of your out dated gun laws. For a country so rich America is remarkably backward when it comes to things like the democratic set up, religion and gun laws.

 

That said i do believe that if someone enters your home unvited to burgle etc it should be your right to use any force and if the intruder is killed then the law should take no action against the homeowner. I would apply the same scenario to the pensioner.

 

Similarly my cousin and his brother were out in Winchester and got set upon by a gang. They were (one died in an unrelated incident) Rugby players and hard as nails and battered the gang. They ended up being tagged by the courts. That's not justice.

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Yes it is....Apart from a few seriously dodgy areas, I can pretty much leave my truck unlocked anywhere around town even with gear in the bed and 'know' it will all still be there when I get back. Thats something peeps in the UK can only dream about these days.....Hell, the same can be said for my house....Leaving the back door unlocked or a window open isn't going to be some kind of 'invitation' for some scum bag to come help them selves....They know they probably wouldn't get out alive....and if they did...they'll be going to jail.....Roll your eyes all you want, but can you say the same?...nope didn't think so....good luck with your belief in allowing the criminals the upper hand, I can see it's working well for you.

 

But.... I think America has more crime than Britain? You can't be shooting enough people.

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But.... I think America has more crime than Britain? You can't be shooting enough people.

 

 

Correct. The answer to USA's high crime rate is more guns of a higher calibre. When will these pinko yankee scumbags learn ?

 

Also, why, oh why, are they no longer allowed to hang slaves from trees ? I'll tell you why - because the communists have taken over the asylum.

 

All facts.

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Y'know car jacking and theft used to be rife in New Orleans...Until the State changed the law and made your vehicle an extension of your home.....Now in Louisiana, you can shoot on sight any would be car jacker/thief

Car jacking/theft all but ended over night.......Go figure

 

That's odd. I just Googled "Carjacking New Orleans" and there were a shedload of news reports of recent carjackings. Didn't seem that many when I tried the same thing for the "Southampton" or "Hampshire".

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That's odd. I just Googled "Carjacking New Orleans" and there were a shedload of news reports of recent carjackings. Didn't seem that many when I tried the same thing for the "Southampton" or "Hampshire".

Go figure.

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That's odd. I just Googled "Carjacking New Orleans" and there were a shedload of news reports of recent carjackings. Didn't seem that many when I tried the same thing for the "Southampton" or "Hampshire".

 

It's peeps like you that keep burying your head in sand. Did you not read his post? New Orleans is crime free and it's all thanks to guns. Guns and gun related legislation solve crime, it's as simple as that. Y'all better wake up and smell the coffee, or the smell of gunpowder.

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It's peeps like you that keep burying your head in sand. Did you not read his post? New Orleans is crime free and it's all thanks to guns. Guns and gun related legislation solve crime, it's as simple as that. Y'all better wake up and smell the coffee, or the smell of gunpowder.

 

Guns make us prepared, butter merely makes us fat.

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