Toomer Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 Not 100% sure yet, he reminds me little of Kanu when he first arrived in the country.
Appy Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 How many goals has he scored in the league so far? Just the 1?
Andy_Porter Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 2 in the league Gillingham and Exeter. 3 in the JPT Noriwch and Torquay x2. 1 in the FA Cup Northampton
eesti matty Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 2 in the league Gillingham and Exeter. 3 in the JPT Noriwch and Torquay x2. 1 in the FA Cup Northampton Wasn't he given the goal against Bristol Rovers at home?
jam Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 If the price isn't silly then definitely sign him. He can play well in two positions and l think he'll get better with experience of this league. He also seems to have a pretty good attitude towards the game and the fans, something that I think the team can do with right now.
eesti matty Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 (edited) 2 in the league Gillingham and Exeter. 3 in the JPT Noriwch and Torquay x2. 1 in the FA Cup Northampton I make it 1 in the FA Cup (Northampton) 4 in the JPT (2 against Torquay, 2 against Norwich) 3 in the league (Gillingham, Bristol Rovers and Exeter) That makes it 8 in total. Edited 15 January, 2010 by eesti matty
saints-cris Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 Without a doubt I would sign him, think he's been really good, frustrating at times, but good.
sotonjoe Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 It all depends what the fee would be and what his wage demands would be. Assuming his wage demands would be within our budget, what sort of fee would people be happy for Saints to pay? £250k? £500k? £1m approx? Free transfer only?
Window Cleaner Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 Undecided until AP starts him in preference to Antonio.
Matthew Le God Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 Yes....................303............72.84% No.....................28..............6.73% Still undecided.....85..............20.43% Quite conclusive so far. Hope Mr Pardew and Mr Cortese take note! I voted yes, and he should be playing instead of Antonio on the right and perhaps even given more match time as Lambert's strike partner.
saint_stevo Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 he is much better than antonio, who imo is utter carp
SuperMikey Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 I voted undecided. Still not sure about Papa, there's no doubting that he's bloody quick and unpredictable on the ball, but his constant offsides make me think that he doesn't really read the game very well. I'm sure there are better players out there that will be cheaper and cost less in wages that could play wide right at this level or higher, depending on what happens at the end of this season. Jamal Campbell-Ryce is a player who I think could be great here, would love to see us sign him. I have a sneaky feeling that Jon Otsemobor will link up quite well with Papa actually, they're both attacking right sided players and both extremely pacy. We shall have to wait and see though.
revolution saint Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 I voted undecided. I think he'd benefit from being given a decent run in the same position though and if that's on the right then I'd definitely start him in front of Antonio (who always looks better as an impact player off the bench anyway). To be honest if the agreed fee is 500K then I probably would sign him.
Clifford Nelson Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 I think the writing is on the wall for Waigo. AP doesn't fancy him, prefers Antonio, and Waigo will be back in Italy in the summer. I think AP is dreadfully wrong in his view. Waigo is a real talent who could do a lot for us, compare to the terribly overrated Antonio. But there you go, AP is the manager and I'm not.
Arizona Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 I think the writing is on the wall for Waigo. AP doesn't fancy him, prefers Antonio, and Waigo will be back in Italy in the summer. I think AP is dreadfully wrong in his view. Waigo is a real talent who could do a lot for us, compare to the terribly overrated Antonio. But there you go, AP is the manager and I'm not. The difference being that Waigo turns 26 on Wednesday and has just over 6 years on Antonio. Don't get me wrong, I think Waigo is the better player as it is, but if we're talking in terms of potential Antonio may be the better permanent signing. Don't forget Antonio had only been training with a proffesional club for a year before joining Saints. I have nothing against Tooting and Mitcham, but I wouldn't compare their youth development programme to Arsenal or Man Utd.
SNSUN Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 Still undecided. I think he's class, and can score the odd goal too, but I don't think he's been played regularly enough to warrant a full time contract. I'd give him the rest of his loan contract to prove himself and then I would review it in the summer. I think he'd be an asset whichever league we were in, but it all depends on how much it would cost to keep him, and whether there are better options out there in the summer.
Joesaint Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 Has to be a yes he has a touch of skill and can actually both cross and score, which is nice!
Noodles34 Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 I think he should play ahead of Antonio any day but I'd rather send em both back and sign someone half decent, neither of them are!
SNSUN Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 I'm quite suprised at the result so far of the vote, I didn't think Waigo was so highly rated amongst Saints fans. I'm pleased of course, I like him and he must be doing something right.
Ricky Redstripe Posted 15 January, 2010 Posted 15 January, 2010 Absolutely, he has so much in his game. If he could only learn the bloody offside rule he'd be a regular starter. I think he can give us such a spark in the last half of the season, he could be the difference in making the playoffs or missing out. Sign him up Marcus please!!!
Tac-tics Posted 16 January, 2010 Posted 16 January, 2010 Imagine if it was BWP was faced with the one on ones that Papa has been.
Saint_clark Posted 16 January, 2010 Posted 16 January, 2010 Absolutely, he has so much in his game. If he could only learn the bloody offside rule he'd be a regular starter. I think he can give us such a spark in the last half of the season, he could be the difference in making the playoffs or missing out. Sign him up Marcus please!!! I don't believe for a second that he's offside as much as is given against him.
sotonjoe Posted 16 January, 2010 Posted 16 January, 2010 I don't believe for a second that he's offside as much as is given against him. You watch games with your eyes closed do you?
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 16 January, 2010 Posted 16 January, 2010 The Jury is still out for me but obviously any decision would depend on the price. £200,000 YES, £1m NO
musesaint Posted 16 January, 2010 Posted 16 January, 2010 he is much better than antonio, who imo is utter carp Agree ... Papa Waigo is an altogether better quality player ...though it has to be said that Antonio is far from the finished article and is developing very well ... TBH I'd keep them both ..we've now got the money to do so if we want to
Ricky Redstripe Posted 16 January, 2010 Posted 16 January, 2010 I don't believe for a second that he's offside as much as is given against him. Well I am a season ticket holder so i've seen a fair bit of him, and most of the decisions have been spot on. Unfortunately.
alpine_saint Posted 16 January, 2010 Posted 16 January, 2010 If I could change my vote I would change from "yes" to "no". not because the boy has done anything wrong, but because the manager appears unwilling to use him until it is too late, so its a waste of the owner's money.
Matthew Le God Posted 16 January, 2010 Posted 16 January, 2010 Well I am a season ticket holder so i've seen a fair bit of him, and most of the decisions have been spot on. Unfortunately. How can you tell unless you are sat in line with the last defender each time at both end of St Mary's?
Colinjb Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Posted 14 February, 2010 #Self Indulgent Bump# To coincide with recent relevant thread.
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 February, 2010 Posted 14 February, 2010 How can you tell unless you are sat in line with the last defender each time at both end of St Mary's? You can tell.
St Landrew Posted 14 February, 2010 Posted 14 February, 2010 #Self Indulgent Bump# To coincide with recent relevant thread. Thank you Colinjb. You saved me the trouble. Perhaps I ought to close the new one, as there is plenty of life left in the old Waigo.
Colinjb Posted 14 February, 2010 Author Posted 14 February, 2010 Thank you Colinjb. You saved me the trouble. Perhaps I ought to close the new one, as there is plenty of life left in the old Waigo. Up to you mate. But please, call me Col. Would be handy if my forum name could be changed to that recently but i'm so used to the login details.
Badger Posted 14 February, 2010 Posted 14 February, 2010 Having not been able to post this on another thread this evening I might as well dump this here. I think he is an asset, his pace alone frightens defences.Unfortunately his finishing leaves a lot to be desired and in truth,given longer,he may prove to be Chicken George II with lots of promise but no end product. Originally Posted by Andy_Porter It's very unfortunate for him[and the rest of us] that he missed a couple of sitters in such a high profile game. If he had knocked in one of those chances we'd all be singing his praises now.[he would now be a national treasure having done his celebration to the UK audience having been shown on the news etc He isn't a clever footballer at all but he offers us pace, strength, work rate and industry which are all vital in this league. Quote: Agree not clever,but disagree about strength,this is something he lacks,not just to outmuscle defenders but to attack the ball (especially that header which was a fairly limp attempt to direct it;imagine Ron Davies or even Beattie or Lambert in that position,James would not have seen the ball let alone get near to it.
SuperSAINT Posted 14 February, 2010 Posted 14 February, 2010 To comment on the recent thread that got closed: I had a feeling a question about 'asset or liability' would come up. He's as an asset to the squad at this point. He offers us something different up front with his pace. He also offers us decent squad strength as a right-winger too. If we don't end up keeping him, we'd probably need 2 players to replace him for those positions. But at the moment, with Connolly injured still, I for one am glad he's around.
SFC Forever Posted 14 February, 2010 Posted 14 February, 2010 Hmm, maybe we should just stay as we are for now. After all, I remember a certain Marek Saganowski being abolutely brilliant while he was on loan. But as soon as the deal was done the goals dried up almost completely. Yes, it was a lot to do with other circumstances too, but the transformation was like night and day. Trouble is he hasn't exactly been brilliant has he? He has shown us glimpses but he is so lightweight. Standing right behind the goal on saturday as I was I reckon this question has been asked too soon. Because I would say no right now but in a few weeks id he gets a run of games I might change my mind. Now though No.
St Landrew Posted 14 February, 2010 Posted 14 February, 2010 Trouble is he hasn't exactly been brilliant has he? He has shown us glimpses but he is so lightweight. Standing right behind the goal on saturday as I was I reckon this question has been asked too soon. Because I would say no right now but in a few weeks id he gets a run of games I might change my mind. Now though No. Poll is still open.
Gordon Mockles Posted 15 February, 2010 Posted 15 February, 2010 I make it 1 in the FA Cup (Northampton) 4 in the JPT (2 against Torquay, 2 against Norwich) 3 in the league (Gillingham, Bristol Rovers and Exeter) That makes it 8 in total. You people have short memories. What about Waigo's game winning substitution appearance against Stockport at St Mary's?! When he transformed a dull, lifeless game into a decent end, setting up Lambert for the first, then scoring the second himself. I agree, he's a hot & cold player. He's weak on the ball & falls over too easily but he has something about him I like. He has pace, a great asset, & a great attitude. He is an intellgent footballer & offers a lot of assists & tracks back, quickly able to make ground from defence to attack which IMHO is one of his best attributes. Ok, he needs to work on his touch which sometimes lets him down & his shooting can be great one game, weak in another but some games, his endeavour makes up for this. Can't fault his commitment & I truly think he has more to offer. Maybe his game will improve with his improvement in the native language/accustomization to our league. He's shown signs of improvement & has decent awareness of attackers around him, often picking out Lambert from awkward positions or the by-line. All in all, he contributes much more than his obvious weaknesses & I feel he has more to offer.
St Landrew Posted 15 February, 2010 Posted 15 February, 2010 You people have short memories. Indeed they do Gordon. Who provided Rickie's assist on Tuesday night but Papa. Since my last post on this thread, I've hardened my opinion on Papa Waigo. I think we should sign him, if we can. He's quick, he produces fine passes and assists, and he gets himself into dangerous positions. Yes, he often misses, but a less mobile player wouldn't even get into the positions that Papa almost scores from. Plus, those endless offisdes have almost disappeared. Get him some English language lessons. I'd like to think he'll need them.
Guest flickjax Posted 15 February, 2010 Posted 15 February, 2010 Have the doubters not noticed all the well directed flick-ons he does and how often he beats a defender to a 50/50 ball I think he has a lot of skill and is improving every game. Needs to learn to kick a ball a bit harder, but then heh Lallana suffers from that even worse. Sign him up.
sambosa75 Posted 15 February, 2010 Posted 15 February, 2010 Papa was one of our best players on Saturday. It's no coincidence we started conceding goals when he came off as it gave their defence one less thing to worry about. He might not be the most clinical finisher in the world but he gets in to good positions and makes things happen, like he did against Pompey and he wont be coming up against keepers in such inspired/lucky form as he did with James on Saturday. Definitely sign him up. He's got all the raw tools to be an excellent player and is at the right sort of age still to learn.
The Dogman Of Bassett Posted 15 February, 2010 Posted 15 February, 2010 I wouldn't sign either him or Antonio. Papa just hasn't got it and Antonio is far too predictable.
sambosa75 Posted 15 February, 2010 Posted 15 February, 2010 I wouldn't sign either him or Antonio. Papa just hasn't got it and Antonio is far too predictable. I could see the Pompey defenders "predicting" Antonio skinning their left back at the start of the 2nd half and whipping in a great cross for Lallana. That shows the lads got it, he's young and raw and needs more consistency but to say he is predictable is a little harsh. He might be predictable but with his pace there isnt a lot many defenders can do. He's like Aaron Lennon. Defenders know what he is going to do but not many can stop him. He wasnt a world beater either at Antonio's age but came on bundles in the last 2 or 3 seasons. As for Waigo, what exactly hasnt he got? He's got pace to burn and that alone causes problems. Not counting the amount of headed flick ons he wins and positions he gets into because of his pace. There is definitely enough there for AP to keep persevering.
austsaint Posted 15 February, 2010 Posted 15 February, 2010 If I could change my vote I would change from "yes" to "no". not because the boy has done anything wrong, but because the manager appears unwilling to use him until it is too late, so its a waste of the owner's money. I'm wondering if AP doesn't "rate" Papa because he's not a Pardew signing! Papa made a huge contribution against Pompey - not only his pace and skill, but his willingness to track back and help out in defence. Subbing him at the 70 min. mark makes me suspicious that AP has his mind set against him.
Foxstone Posted 15 February, 2010 Posted 15 February, 2010 I wouldn't sign either him or Antonio. Papa just hasn't got it and Antonio is far too predictable. What ???!! :shock: Antonio gave the Skate defence all sorts of problems , inside and out! The lads got very good potential and we need to retain him and realise that. And Papa sure does have it too !
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