Dan Seaborne Signed on 3.5 year Contract.

[badgerx16]

At least wait for him to play before passing judgement. Presumably Pards has had him scouted for a while, and hasn't based his assessment solely on his performance against us. The raw material, ( height, weight, age, pace ), is there, and you can bet that we will probably be without both Jaidi & Perry next season, ( in the CCC ), when they will be older and slower, and DS will have got games 'under his belt', and understand how the squad are set up for Pards' style of footy.

[hypochondriac]

Oh SSN aren't the paragons of verity that some like to think. Maybe we are going to sign him anyway.All I'm saying is that with football transfers for players looking for reasonable large pay packets and not playing for their current clubs there is often a generous helping of bullcrap spread all over the media.

Some manager or other referred to it yesterday when talking about Beckford.

 

We were clearly interested in Ward.

[Joensuu]

He's definately not a left back. He was apparently awful every time he was asked to play there. He is cover for Jaidi, with age on his side, and potential to progress. If you believe the press was wanted by teams such as Leicester, Forest & Norwich, so there must be something to him.

 

The Exeter fans who dislike him suggest he has poor ball control, a poor first touch, bad distribution, and is prone to errors. However, the fans who like him say he sometimes lets himself down, but is definately improving, and has a fair amount of skill already.

 

They seem to think the 'undisclosed' fee might be as high as £275k + £100k if Saints are promoted. Which sounds awfully high to me. (Most Exeter fans seem to be happy to sell, so long as the price was about £100k). Undisclosed tends to mean that one club feels their fans wouldn't be happy with the agreed fee, either we paid a lot more that we'd like to admit (why? when so many clubs are in financial trouble?), or Exeter sold for far less than they would like... (are they in more trouble than they are letting on?).

[hypochondriac]

At least wait for him to play before passing judgement. Presumably Pards has had him scouted for a while, and hasn't based his assessment solely on his performance against us. The raw material, ( height, weight, age, pace ), is there, and you can bet that we will probably be without both Jaidi & Perry next season, ( in the CCC ), when they will be older and slower, and DS will have got games 'under his belt', and understand how the squad are set up for Pards' style of footy.

 

Sigh. NO ONE IS PASSING JUDGEMENT ON HIM. People are giving their INITIAL reaction to a signing based on the evidence available. I was excited when we signed Skacel, he didn't do great. I was underwhelmed when we got Ryan Smith, I was proven correct. Can you appreciate the difference between saying "this player is rubbish" and "this player appears to be below the quality of some of the players we have been linked with?"

[Thedelldays]

FFS

 

and I'm supposed to be nagative

 

a good signing IMO. Will get better as he gets older

[hypochondriac]

FFS

 

and I'm supposed to be nagative

 

a good signing IMO. Will get better as he gets older

 

TDD I thought you of all people would understand the point I was trying to make...

[Saint_clark]

Who is that Sea-born defender, he is so dominant...

[CWD]

FFS

 

and I'm supposed to be nagative

 

a good signing IMO. Will get better as he gets older

 

DellDays in positivity shocker

[Joensuu]

if we can find someone to take him off our hands before his contract runs out.

 

If he's say on 8K (just a ball park figure) not many CCC clubs pay that now

and we'd have to subsidise any loan for him.

 

If he told the truth in his court case then he's off this money anyhow... (know he was reported to have signed a 3 year contract in summer 2007)

[Lets B Avenue]

If it means Lancashire dosen't get a game.

[JustMike]

this is a good signing imo. Build from the back, has next season in mind as well as the rest of this. Probably knows that Perry will retire or move on. Thomas will go as well and hopefully lancashire. So that will be 3 CB out. Wants the new ones in now so that we can hit the ground running next season, whatever division we are in

[Born In The 80s]

Haven't read through all of the thread, but of what i've read i agree with hypocondriac. It seems like a very strange signing to me, and one in which we don't necessarily need. We already have plenty of good back up for the centre half positions. Surely we don't need another player in that position who more than likely won't play more than a handful of games this season?

 

I used to work down in Devon and here is what an Exeter mate of mine text me last night:

 

"Not disappointed hes left. Not sure he is up to league 1 standard which makes it all the more surprising a team like you have signed him. Is Wayne Thomas off? I think hes a much better player"

[Saint Fan CaM]

Will give the lad the benefit of the doubt as I think he may have looked poor against us due our better attack. The biggest issue I might have with him is the number of red cards he's accumulated - this could prove to be a big problem for our progression up the table if he continues doing that kind of stuff.

[JustMike]

Haven't read through all of the thread, but of what i've read i agree with hypocondriac. It seems like a very strange signing to me, and one in which we don't necessarily need. We already have plenty of good back up for the centre half positions. Surely we don't need another player in that position who more than likely won't play more than a handful of games this season?

 

I used to work down in Devon and here is what an Exeter mate of mine text me last night:

 

"Not disappointed hes left. Not sure he is up to league 1 standard which makes it all the more surprising a team like you have signed him. Is Wayne Thomas off? I think hes a much better player"

 

he hasnt seen Thomas play then

 

this signing makes sence to me (see previous post above)

[Smirking_Saint]

Thomas is farking rubbish, never seen a huge hulk of a man be so non-dominant in defence, he can't win headers, can't really defend and is paid WAAAAAY to much.

 

Think seaborne is a good signing for the future

[hypochondriac]

Haven't read through all of the thread, but of what i've read i agree with hypocondriac. It seems like a very strange signing to me, and one in which we don't necessarily need. We already have plenty of good back up for the centre half positions. Surely we don't need another player in that position who more than likely won't play more than a handful of games this season?

 

I used to work down in Devon and here is what an Exeter mate of mine text me last night:

 

"Not disappointed hes left. Not sure he is up to league 1 standard which makes it all the more surprising a team like you have signed him. Is Wayne Thomas off? I think hes a much better player"

 

Thank you. It's not about me being "negative" (jesus I was slated by Duncan a few weeks back for being deluded and happy clappy!). All I'm doing is expressing my opinion and I'm not sure he is much better than what we currently have. Fonte is probably a fantastic signing and clearly quite a bit better than what we have. Not so sure about this one.

[hypochondriac]

Thomas is farking rubbish, never seen a huge hulk of a man be so non-dominant in defence, he can't win headers, can't really defend and is paid WAAAAAY to much.

 

Think seaborne is a good signing for the future

 

Lets hope so.

[Andy_Porter]

Haven't read through all of the thread, but of what i've read i agree with hypocondriac. It seems like a very strange signing to me, and one in which we don't necessarily need. We already have plenty of good back up for the centre half positions. Surely we don't need another player in that position who more than likely won't play more than a handful of games this season?

 

I used to work down in Devon and here is what an Exeter mate of mine text me last night:

 

"Not disappointed hes left. Not sure he is up to league 1 standard which makes it all the more surprising a team like you have signed him. Is Wayne Thomas off? I think hes a much better player"

 

Let them have Thomas then.

[Judge_B]

At no point have I suggested that people cannot hold a different opinion to myself. You are the one who seems to have a problem with me expressing my disappointment. If you would read my earlier reply I have said he might turn out to be really good and I hope he does. The only thing I can currently go on is the available evidence. This suggests that he isn't really that special in comparison to the decent CCC performers we have been linked with. Get it?

 

I'm sorry, I interrupted. You were saying how you thought he might be a disappointing signing because you thought he had a bad game once and that some people on the internet said they didn't think much of him? Do go on...

[badgerx16]

Sigh. NO ONE IS PASSING JUDGEMENT ON HIM. People are giving their INITIAL reaction to a signing based on the evidence available. I was excited when we signed Skacel, he didn't do great. I was underwhelmed when we got Ryan Smith, I was proven correct. Can you appreciate the difference between saying "this player is rubbish" and "this player appears to be below the quality of some of the players we have been linked with?"

[sIGH} Did I quote you ?[/sIGH]

[Katalinic]

http://www.exetercityfc.co.uk/page/NewsFeatures/0,,10436~1931094,00.html

 

Nice article on Seaborne. I would think Perryman is better placed to comment than some of the experts on here who have probably never seen him play.

[rudi-skacel]

where does the young player we signed from eastleigh figure in this,isnt he a centre back,but maybe he is one for the future.

[Alanh]

Thank you. It's not about me being "negative" (jesus I was slated by Duncan a few weeks back for being deluded and happy clappy!). All I'm doing is expressing my opinion and I'm not sure he is much better than what we currently have. Fonte is probably a fantastic signing and clearly quite a bit better than what we have. Not so sure about this one.

 

But I think it's fair to assume that he hasn't been bought to be immediately better than what we already have. He's cover at the moment thereby adding depth to the squad and hopefully will be one for the future once he's been moulded by AP and his team. I'd take the comments from Exeter with a pinch of salt, very few fans talk up a player when they know he's on his way.

[hypochondriac]

I'm sorry, I interrupted. You were saying how you thought he might be a disappointing signing because you thought he had a bad game once and that some people on the internet said they didn't think much of him? Do go on...

 

I'm not replying to you anymore after this. To most people who are not mentally challenged, it is quite obvious what I am saying. Clearly I can only give my view on a player based upon what I have seen and what others who have seen more of him tell me. My INITIAL disappointment is just that, initial. He may turn out to be fantastic for us and I truly hope he does. The available evidence suggests that he is poorer than other targets we have been linked with and so I am underwhelmed. You may not feel the same way and that is entirely your choice. At no point am I writing the player off, nor do I have any desire to see him do badly. On the contrary I want him to do really well. Now is that really terribly difficult to comprehend?

[.comsaint]

Isn't Thomas being linked with Plymouth???

[hypochondriac]

But I think it's fair to assume that he hasn't been bought to be immediately better than what we already have. He's cover at the moment thereby adding depth to the squad and hopefully will be one for the future once he's been moulded by AP and his team. I'd take the comments from Exeter with a pinch of salt, very few fans talk up a player when they know he's on his way.

 

Maybe so and in which case things may be different. We shall see how often he is played. I wonder what role Pardew had in mind for Ward if this is his other option he went for?

[.comsaint]

Exeter boss Perryman's view on Seaborne:

 

http://www.exetercityfc.co.uk/page/NewsFeatures/0,,10436~1931094,00.html

[St_Tel49]

What's the point? It's not like we desperately need him or he's much better than what we already have. Bizarre signing.

 

I don't know anything about him really so therefore he's rubbish!! Works for me.

[hypochondriac]

http://www.exetercityfc.co.uk/page/NewsFeatures/0,,10436~1931094,00.html

 

Nice article on Seaborne. I would think Perryman is better placed to comment than some of the experts on here who have probably never seen him play.

 

If you can show me where someone has written off the player then I will agree with you.

[ottery st mary]

http://www.exetercityfc.co.uk/page/NewsFeatures/0,,10436~1931094,00.html

 

Nice article on Seaborne. I would think Perryman is better placed to comment than some of the experts on here who have probably never seen him play.

 

Perryman tells it exactly as it is and the belief of a lot of Managers/coaches..

Seaborne had quite a few interested clubs.....

 

Fellow fans have faith in Pards and team:)

[Scudamore]

If you can show me where someone has written off the player then I will agree with you.

 

It's not all about you hypo ;-)

 

Oh and that put down by Judge...priceless...

[hypochondriac]

I don't know anything about him really so therefore he's rubbish!! Works for me.

 

Fool. Read the thread.

[wild-saint]

http://www.exetercityfc.co.uk/page/NewsFeatures/0,,10436~1931094,00.html

 

Nice article on Seaborne. I would think Perryman is better placed to comment than some of the experts on here who have probably never seen him play.

 

It seems Steve Perryman rates him, it seems Alan Pardew and his scounting team rate him.

 

However some people on a internet forum who may / or may not be bitter that he is going to saints dont rate him. Also some saints fan who saw him play against saints thought he was crap too.

 

oh which group has more credibility and who should i trust has made the right decision.

 

No brainer. Slag the fecker off as he must be shyte

[Toadhall Saint]

I like Perryman - always have.

 

He knows a decent player vwhen he see's one.

[hypochondriac]

It's not all about you hypo ;-)

 

Oh and that put down by Judge...priceless...

 

Well it would be except he completely missed the point. Ah hell I'm boring myself now. If people do not understand the point I am making then that's their lookout. I think I've made it clear (and often enough!)

[hypochondriac]

It seems Steve Perryman rates him, it seems Alan Pardew and his scounting team rate him.

 

However some people on a internet forum who may / or may not be bitter that he is going to saints dont rate him. Also some saints fan who saw him play against saints thought he was crap too.

 

oh which group has more credibility and who should i trust has made the right decision.

 

No brainer. Slag the fecker off as he must be shyte

 

Please give me a link to where that has occurred?

[Judge_B]

I'm not replying to you anymore after this. To most people who are not mentally challenged, it is quite obvious what I am saying. Clearly I can only give my view on a player based upon what I have seen and what others who have seen more of him tell me. My INITIAL disappointment is just that, initial. He may turn out to be fantastic for us and I truly hope he does. The available evidence suggests that he is poorer than other targets we have been linked with and so I am underwhelmed. You may not feel the same way and that is entirely your choice. At no point am I writing the player off, nor do I have any desire to see him do badly. On the contrary I want him to do really well. Now is that really terribly difficult to comprehend?

 

Mentally challenged, nice. Happy New Year to you too. Bit of rigourous debate too much for you, get you a bit upset? It's ok, I'll ignore you after I've posted this too.

 

You want him to be a success? Welcome him to the club, and suspend your belief for a fraction of a second that you know better than those that are employed to spot talent that might improve the squad

[krissyboy31]

I like Perryman - always have.

 

He knows a decent player vwhen he see's one.

 

I think you're right but he's hardly going to say 'glad we offloaded that player because he's absolutely crap', is he?

[hypochondriac]

Mentally challenged, nice. Happy New Year to you too. Bit of rigourous debate too much for you, get you a bit upset? It's ok, I'll ignore you after I've posted this too.

 

You want him to be a success? Welcome him to the club, and suspend your belief for a fraction of a second that you know better than those that are employed to spot talent that might improve the squad

 

Well if you are going to put words in my mouth and totally miss the very obvious point I was making then what exactly am I supposed to think?

[Toadhall Saint]

I think you're right but he's hardly going to say 'glad we offloaded that player because he's absolutely crap', is he?

 

Nope - still haven't changed my mind on Perryman tho.

[Junior Mullet]

Meh signing.

 

Not at all impressed and actually I do take account of what fans think of players, afterall they are the ones that watch players week in week out. I too was very unimpressed with him when he played against us.

 

I do not place too much confidence in what managers or the likes of Perryman say. They are one man with a particular view. Not only that but sometimes what they say publicly doesnt always match their private view. Ferguson says Wes Brown is the best defender in the Prem. Harry Redtwitch is another one that says what he thiks is best to suit him. Perryman conducted himself like a **** at the Exeter game and I am placing no reliance whatsoever on what he has to say.

 

Despite my dissappointment with this signing I do have confidence in Pardew. He and his coaches and scoats know what they are looking for. For that reason I will reserve judgement on this lad as a player until I have seen him play.

[Chez]

Excellent signing. 6'3" centre backs. Love 'em. Maybe at last we can look to get rid of Thomas and Perry.

[alpine_saint]

Underwhelmed.

[derry]

After Exeter went down to 10 men, I thought they played well and that we were hanging on at the end. Their defence looked pretty solid and I don't remember the individual but thought both their centre backs looked pretty solid.

[Torres]

There's something about this guy that reminds me of Danny Higginbotham. They even look (vaguely) similar.

 

 

 

[Chez]

After Exeter went down to 10 men, I thought they played well and that we were hanging on at the end. Their defence looked pretty solid and I don't remember the individual but thought both their centre backs looked pretty solid.

 

spot on. They looked assured and as I recall they played it out from the back so perhaps the lad is a proper player.

 

I do not understand these `underwelmed' posts at all. Are they underwelmed because they don't know him, or underwelmed because they wanted the more well known, but not neccesarily better Ward?

 

We've signed a young, tall centre back from a team in our own division who wanted to keep him. What more could you want?

 

Why also, when we have more money than any other club in this divison, would we spend wedge on him if AP didn't think he was decent? It's not a desperation signing like Thomas or Perry. Personally I can't wait to see the lad winning headers and dominating strikers like a decent back should.

 

One last thing, does anyone recall Lambert having much of a game against him. He didn't. I wonder why?

Edited 13 January, 2010 by Chez

[West End Saint]

I have to be honest and say I dont know much about him as a player I didnt notice him Boxing Day but in Pards I trust he hasnt got a signing wrong yet so the lad must have something to bring I look forward to watching him play

[Andy_Porter]

spot on. They looked assured and as I recall they played it out from the back so perhaps the lad is a proper player.

 

I do not understand these `underwelmed' posts at all. We've signed a young, tall centre back from a team in our own division who wanted to keep him. What more do you want?

 

a defender who can't even get on the bench for Coventry... strange really.

[NickG]

Underwhelmed.

 

 

come on, you were crying out for centre backs, Pardew has signed Jaidi, Martin, Fonte and Seaborne to add to Perry, thomas, Lancashire and Saville.

 

He is only trying to appease you!

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

spot on. They looked assured and as I recall they played it out from the back so perhaps the lad is a proper player.

 

I do not understand these `underwelmed' posts at all. We've signed a young, tall centre back from a team in our own division who wanted to keep him. What more do you want?

 

I bet these same people were underwhelmed at the signing of Hammond from Colchester. Or Harding.