JibMcdo Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Isnt he 22? What's your point? He broke into the team at an early age at centre half, he rose up from the BSP to League 2 to League 1 playing centre half. Does that not lead someone to believe he has built his "career" so far playing there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 When we got Harding for free, obv not many people thought much of him then, remember how late it was. AP must see something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Sky S N are saying Ward has signed, surely that would cast doubt on this. Totally agree.....If Ward is match fit and Seaborne signs???? Maybe a loan back for Tis with Olly??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 When we got Harding for free, obv not many people thought much of him then, remember how late it was. AP must see something. Speak for yourself. I was delirious. I still am ... but I'm on medication for it. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 More info on Seaborne from Exeter forum: He was club captain in our Conference promotion season but at only 21. Maybe a little early for that responsibility while his game was still developing. Maybe hasn't come on in the leaps and bounds expected and didn't help himself with a couple of red cards and loss of form at times. He also played at left back earlier this season but appeared like a fish out of water so reverted a little to percentage defending. For me, the last few games at CB he has looked a lot more composed and comfortable and has started playing the ball out of defence far more. I think we'll miss him if he goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Club not happy with sky sports news according to their Twitter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Lets clear this up once and for all-no leaked announcement, no premature announcement, just someone at Sky getting things v wrong! saints official tweeter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Lambert and AP cannot both be wrong about this lad. If true fair play to Chez and Sourmash, who were right when they said we would sign from lower league clubs in this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 lower league? Palace and allegedly Exeter? I make that, league above and same league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 lower league? Palace and allegedly Exeter? I make that, league above and same league Although technically they are both lower league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 I am sorry,I meant clubs lower than Saints in the league tables. Exeter are in that category and I was referring only about Seaborne if he signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 On the Exeter website (link posted by someone earlier in this thread) they reckon the fee is £275k down up to a max of £475k. That said, other posters said he's actually off to Leicester for £100k. Seems their ITKers are as sound as ours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Lambert and AP cannot both be wrong about this lad. If true fair play to Chez and Sourmash, who were right when they said we would sign from lower league clubs in this window. not sure I said we would, just said I thought we should be looking as there are plenty of very good players that coud improve us from our division and below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somewhere In Northam Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 jaidi wont be kicked out, i would have thought either ward or fonte would switch to RB, very good chance of being wrong though, just think jaidi is too good to be sidelined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 I;ve got a lot of time for Jaidi but, even with him in the side, we still have a very leaky defence. I wouldn't be surprised if a 'clean sweep', or near as damn it, wasn't on AP's mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 jaidi wont be kicked out, i would have thought either ward or fonte would switch to RB, very good chance of being wrong though, just think jaidi is too good to be sidelined With cup ties and postponements we might face two games in a week more frequently now and Jaidi is not up to that.So I expect he'll be rested quite often in the second half of the season,hence the need for quality in the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 He's from Barnstaple, so he's probably inbred...... Likes picking on midgets though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 I have to admit to being somewhat confused by the supposed transfers we're meant to be signing. All of sudden we've got umpteen defenders on the books and most them are CB's. And no-one's gone out the door yet. The only explanation if any of this is true is that AP is preparing for what will be a very tough run-in with 2-3 months of games coming at us at 2/week. And a potential play-off run where our best players need to be at the top of their game. You don't do what we're trying to do on a lean squad I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 this, if true is a good thing imo. Build from the back, has next season in mind as well as the rest of this. Probably knows that Perry will retire or move on. Thomas will go as well and hopefully lancashire. So that will be 3 CB out. Wants the new ones in now so that we can hit the ground running next season, whatever division we are in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Todays Echo says Seaborne next, and list goes on Elliott Ward and Jon Otsemobor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 AP said on Solent that he is worried that he will some day make a bad signing. This could be the one by all accounts:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintExile Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 I saw this guy a couple of times last season playing for Exeter and he struck me as a useful, positive defender with potential. I would have preferred to have signed talented left back Dean Moxey, however, but he has gone to Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Looking at that picture I remember him now - he played pretty poorly against us and I'm not entirely sure but think he was carded and argued quite a bit with some of the other Exeter defenders. If it is the same guy, would do well to leave him alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 AP said on Solent that he is worried that he will some day make a bad signing. This could be the one by all accounts:) No.He got all his bad signings out of the way at Charlton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 It would be a mistake to write off Lancashire. He looked a very good player for Grimsby against Leeds and kept Beckford very quiet. He is still a young lad and may well turn out to be a good player, he should be given time to develop through loans. Centre backs tend to mature later than other positions. We have already lost Mills and Cranie who are both coming along nicely, Williamson and Monk are two more and we don't need to lose any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 He's from Barnstaple, so he's probably inbred...... Likes picking on midgets though Excellent. I don't want the ball assistants getting c*cky if he has to fill in for Harding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg_hill Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Can't believe that people are writing him off and he hasn't even signed!! Madness, money seems to be going to our heads. If we are not spending more than 500k or they are from a lesser team we are wasting money - geez. The way I see it AP is buying fir now AND the future. If we can buy someone who is not quite ready for our first team but with time an quality coaching could be I'm a couple o years all for 250k. Yes please. +1. Thanks for saving me the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 It would be a mistake to write off Lancashire. He looked a very good player for Grimsby against Leeds and kept Beckford very quiet. He is still a young lad and may well turn out to be a good player, he should be given time to develop through loans. Centre backs tend to mature later than other positions. We have already lost Mills and Cranie who are both coming along nicely, Williamson and Monk are two more and we don't need to lose any more. Exactly what we have to remember is that Jaidi and Perry are players we're not gonna get anymore seasons out of apart from this one, especially as Jaidi is brilliant for winning headers but his legs have gone and can't handle the amount of games that will be thrown at him. Pardew isn't signing "raw" centre backs he's signing ones that will last the project maybe up until the premiership remember "build from the back" with the best goalscorer in the league we don't NEED another striker as we have goals in our team with Connoly and Lambert needless to say Waigo deserves a place too. What he'll put is another bring the ball out of midfield player to challenge Hammond and Morgan, the problem i'm starting to see is Lloyd James where does he fit? he's clearly a GOOD player but easily replaceable however is very young and adds alot with his crossing and set pieces delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 What he'll put is another bring the ball out of midfield player to challenge Hammond and Morgan, the problem i'm starting to see is Lloyd James where does he fit? he's clearly a GOOD player but easily replaceable however is very young and adds alot with his crossing and set pieces delivery. Lloyd is very versatile and getting better Need at least twenty good players in the squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravesend Saint Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Seabourne signed on a 3.5 year deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Incongruous Monk Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Signed: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdearlove Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Seabourne has signed a 3 1/2 year contract - according to official saints twitter feed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Underwhelmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Underwhelmed. Hmm not sure you should be underwhelmed. We now have two CCC standard centre backs in Jaidi and Fonte with Seaborne as very able back up - then pick one from Thomas, Perry, Lancashire and Martin to complete our set of centre backs. 22 is very young for a defender, Pardew obviously see's potential in a Fonte / Seaborne partnership. I'm happy that Pardew has targetted the weakest area of our team and improved it dramatically. Even with an injury to a key defender we still look strong, two months ago if Jaidi had picked up an injury we would have been in serious trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martel Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Seabourne has signed a 3 1/2 year contract - according to official saints twitter feed Just come up on breaking news in the Echo as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Hmm not sure you should be underwhelmed. We now have two CCC standard centre backs in Jaidi and Fonte with Seaborne as very able back up - then pick one from Thomas, Perry, Lancashire and Martin to complete our set of centre backs. 22 is very young for a defender, Pardew obviously see's potential in a Fonte / Seaborne partnership. I'm happy that Pardew has targetted the weakest area of our team and improved it dramatically. Even with an injury to a key defender we still look strong, two months ago if Jaidi had picked up an injury we would have been in serious trouble. Agreed. And i'm especially pleased to be adding extra height. I looked at the Norwich the other month and they looked like a bunch of monsters compared to our lot. I don't expect this guy to be the difference to making our squad world beaters but then not every signing is gonna be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 On the OS now http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1930993,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 On the OS now http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1930993,00.html It was 3 hours ago aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Steve Perryman says on the Exeter website, that he rates him highly. That will do for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yate Saint Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 It would be a mistake to write off Lancashire. He looked a very good player for Grimsby against Leeds and kept Beckford very quiet. He is still a young lad and may well turn out to be a good player, he should be given time to develop through loans. Centre backs tend to mature later than other positions. We have already lost Mills and Cranie who are both coming along nicely, Williamson and Monk are two more and we don't need to lose any more. I agree. It would be good to give him a bit more time but with the signing of Seabourne I think he may not have any! Only time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 It would be a mistake to write off Lancashire. He looked a very good player for Grimsby against Leeds and kept Beckford very quiet. He is still a young lad and may well turn out to be a good player, he should be given time to develop through loans. Centre backs tend to mature later than other positions. We have already lost Mills and Cranie who are both coming along nicely, Williamson and Monk are two more and we don't need to lose any more. Interesting you have time for Lancashire but you're one of the first to write off Lloyd James. I do agree with what you're saying, Lancashire should never have been used that last season was far too early in his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Interesting you have time for Lancashire but you're one of the first to write off Lloyd James. I do agree with what you're saying, Lancashire should never have been used that last season was far too early in his development. James has a fundamental flaw, he is slow. I don't see a future for him here with the plans we have. I don't expect him to be with the club after next season, along with a lot of others. Lancashire looked a class act against Leeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 James has a fundamental flaw, he is slow. I don't see a future for him here with the plans we have. I don't expect him to be with the club after next season, along with a lot of others. Lancashire looked a class act against Leeds. Sorry Derry, I think AP really rates LJ and doesn't rate OL hence signing of Seaborne and Fonte. I worry that you're views on players are very black and white - you either like a player or don't like a player! I seem to recall you really wanted Lallana out of the club! I hope you're not going to start an antil Lloyd James campaign are you? Lancashire has been poor and might be doing ok at Grimsby but he hardly represents the future of SFC does he? I suspect he will leave SFC if a club wants him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Sorry Derry, I think AP really rates LJ and doesn't rate OL hence signing of Seaborne and Fonte. I worry that you're views on players are very black and white - you either like a player or don't like a player! I seem to recall you really wanted Lallana out of the club! I hope you're not going to start an antil Lloyd James campaign are you? Lancashire has been poor and might be doing ok at Grimsby but he hardly represents the future of SFC does he? I suspect he will leave SFC if a club wants him... Lancashire is nowhere near the finished article. We have lost Monk, Williamson, Mills and Cranie by not developing them along with Howard and Elliott. If Pardew lets Lancashire go it would be premature. Lallana has performed much better of late and not before time. James is a different kettle of fish. He is slow, that will never change. He isn't a bad footballer but our 5 year plan will see him replaced sooner rather than later. He isn't an issue for me as I don't rate him and can't see him playing much except as a stand in once the transfer window closes and Murty is back in contention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 14 January, 2010 Share Posted 14 January, 2010 It would be a mistake to write off Lancashire. He looked a very good player for Grimsby against Leeds and kept Beckford very quiet. He is still a young lad and may well turn out to be a good player, he should be given time to develop through loans. Centre backs tend to mature later than other positions. We have already lost Mills and Cranie who are both coming along nicely, Williamson and Monk are two more and we don't need to lose any more. So loan Lancashire to Exeter then, since they need a new CB, thus everyone at the extremities of the Flybe empire is happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 14 January, 2010 Share Posted 14 January, 2010 jaidi wont be kicked out, i would have thought either ward or fonte would switch to RB, very good chance of being wrong though, just think jaidi is too good to be sidelined His age means he will be played in selected games! so we need others to fill in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 14 January, 2010 Share Posted 14 January, 2010 So loan Lancashire to Exeter then, since they need a new CB, thus everyone at the extremities of the Flybe empire is happy. I would like to see him loaned out for the rest of this season and play regular League football and after pre-season, maybe to a good side for the first half of next season. It is only by playing regularly that we will get to see what he can achieve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 14 January, 2010 Share Posted 14 January, 2010 Sorry Derry, I think AP really rates LJ and doesn't rate OL hence signing of Seaborne and Fonte. I worry that you're views on players are very black and white - you either like a player or don't like a player! I seem to recall you really wanted Lallana out of the club! I hope you're not going to start an antil Lloyd James campaign are you? Lancashire has been poor and might be doing ok at Grimsby but he hardly represents the future of SFC does he? I suspect he will leave SFC if a club wants him... Lancashire is nowhere near the finished article. We have lost Monk, Williamson, Mills and Cranie by not developing them along with Howard and Elliott. If Pardew lets Lancashire go it would be premature. Lallana has performed much better of late and not before time. James is a different kettle of fish. He is slow, that will never change. He isn't a bad footballer but our 5 year plan will see him replaced sooner rather than later. He isn't an issue for me as I don't rate him and can't see him playing much except as a stand in once the transfer window closes and Murty is back in contention. Maybe it's sooner, as we have just signed Otsemobor a right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 14 January, 2010 Share Posted 14 January, 2010 Dan Seaborne.....Saints paid about £250,000 with add ons and sell on etc... after accepting Saints third offer in January........ From Exeter....This season Seaborne has started 21 games and a string of imperious performances alerted a host of clubs. Norwich had already made two offers in October /November described as derisory offers. I believe they had already offered in pre season as well. Recently they signed Whitbread....Will be interesting to see his progress at the Canaries and when he plays on his big wages. Since Exeter moved into Div 1.. Seaborne has improved his distribution as well as his disciplinary record...only two bookings this season. Boasting a real aerial presence coupled with his speed across the turf. There is no doubt his prowess at the back will be sorely missed....say Exeter. He is also described as.....ATHLETIC, QUICK, POWERFUL, young AND UNCOMPROMISING and it was always just a matter of time before he was lured away from Exeter...A very accomplished Centre Half. In the Saints Exeter game he played a lot better than some posters suggest....Still very much for the future but has the ability and strength to do a job in the absence of Jaidi..Or in due course alogside Jaidi and Fonte. Quality left footed centre backs are coveted commodities..He is a terrific talent, left footed, aggressive and would probably had gone from Exeter earlier if he hadn't had set backs through injury...broke a leg summer of 2007 pre season friendly.. ALWAYS 100% FIT AND COMMITTED SINCE....Saints have bought development and potential and a very good player as well. BEST OF LUCK TO SEABORNE. coyrS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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