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Scudamore

Scudamore

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lol!!! I am hoping he will see a great game and a Saints victory!! He is looking forward to getting the saints scarf and hat combo more at mo!!!

 

Well i'm going with my dad as well...the bitterness and resentment i harbour against him for making me a Saints fan...should be all coming your way in years to come! ;-)

kpturner

kpturner

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Just seen it, that is very very clever lol!!! Am hoping even more now!!!
I think you are crediting the author(s) with too much savvy. I expect it is a completely inadvertent news item with no inference meant.........or is it?
thorpie the sinner

thorpie the sinner

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I think you are crediting the author(s) with too much savvy. I expect it is a completely inadvertent news item with no inference meant.........or is it?

 

I am full of belief that, that headline was meticulously thought out!!!! Stocky is close lol

Charlie Wayman

Charlie Wayman

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All this stuff amazes me, I thought we had already too many players on our books; were seeking to offload quite a few we didn't want. Instead of which we seem intent on filling our squad with even more journeymen, wannabees and one-dimensional numb skulls on job-seekers allowance who'll probably never make it to the first team anyway.

 

So it's loads o' money in the debit column with not much to show on the credit page. This can't be healthy financially and for team morale with lots of new blokes thinking they are on a promise for first team football but in fact unlikely to get a sniff when AP discovers they're no better than what we've got.

 

This situation I do not like. It acannot go on like this. It's time to stop living in a make believe world that buying lots of players is the solution to all our ails. Solution it ain't: we are going to find that out the hard way before too long.

 

Just imagine how long it'll take Pardew to sort out his best eleven and in the best eleven positions after this further upheaval, especially as he hasn't achieved that after half-a-season already.

 

You know what its like... on the record players always say "It's great to have better players coming in and challenging for positions etc, etc" whereas what they really mean is;

 

"F*** this! I thought I was doing OK and the boss like me so now where does that leave me? Sod it, I'm off as soon as I can find another club who really will appreciate me and b*ll**ks to all that effort in training and stuff... "

Soggy Bottom

Soggy Bottom

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All this stuff amazes me, I thought we had already too many players on our books; were seeking to offload quite a few we didn't want. Instead of which we seem intent on filling our squad with even more journeymen, wannabees and one-dimensional numb skulls on job-seekers allowance who'll probably never make it to the first team anyway.

 

So it's loads o' money in the debit column with not much to show on the credit page. This can't be healthy financially and for team morale with lots of new blokes thinking they are on a promise for first team football but in fact unlikely to get a sniff when AP discovers they're no better than what we've got.

 

This situation I do not like. It acannot go on like this. It's time to stop living in a make believe world that buying lots of players is the solution to all our ails. Solution it ain't: we are going to find that out the hard way before too long.

 

Just imagine how long it'll take Pardew to sort out his best eleven and in the best eleven positions after this further upheaval, especially as he hasn't achieved that after half-a-season already.

 

You know what its like... on the record players always say "It's great to have better players coming in and challenging for positions etc, etc" whereas what they really mean is;

 

"F*** this! I thought I was doing OK and the boss like me so now where does that leave me? Sod it, I'm off as soon as I can find another club who really will appreciate me and b*ll**ks to all that effort in training and stuff... "

 

 

You can't get rid of palyers if no-one wants them or they don't want to move. You can't just wait until there contracts are up.

 

There's alot of games in this league you need a big squad of good players to achive the overall goal.

oxfordshire_saint

oxfordshire_saint

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Sod it, I'm off as soon as I can find another club who really will appreciate me and b*ll**ks to all that effort in training and stuff... "

 

Like Lee Holmes, who's efforts on the training ground earnt him a start vs Millwall?

Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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Dont know if this has been posted

 

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11719_5870269,00.html

 

Interesting to see that Huddersfield want Trotman aswell.

 

 

As I have said before, I think AP has been misquoted here. He has said that Saints would not value Stock the same as Donny, but he has not said that a bid has been made. That article does not quote AP directly at all, so someone is playing games. Very strange for the OS to put such a blatantly obvious link to a player we're supposedly only tentatively linked with - recent previous 'jokes' have tended to be about Saints players I think? So just perhaps....

St.Patrik

St.Patrik

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Well this taking stock news is the biggest news on the OS today - reading between the lines there MUST be something in this story - if this player doesnt sign I will be wery wery surprised.....

Saints67

Saints67

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Well this taking stock news is the biggest news on the OS today - reading between the lines there MUST be something in this story - if this player doesnt sign I will be wery wery surprised.....
I agree. One day before the away leg of the JPT Southern Final and THIS makes the OS? I'd have thought they could've dug out a player for a rent-a-quip rather than adding this piece of non-news. Unless..............
northam soul

northam soul

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I think you will find that the author of this article did not intend for this to have any link however tenuous to a possible new signing.

Simply highlighting the fact that the store is closed for stocktaking.By the way he will be signed by friday.

kpturner

kpturner

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Still think that the word used is strange? Taking stock - they could have written - Megastore closed because we are putting new items in the store...
That would never fit!
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache

Ivan Katalinic's 'tache

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Surely they wouldn't tease in this way, without there being some substance to us signing him, would they?

 

Hopefully, there will be a story on the OS, at 2pm, tomorrow (entitled Stock Taken) which has nothing to do with a count of the merchandise in the Megastore!!!

RedAndWhite91

RedAndWhite91

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Still think that the word used is strange? Taking stock - they could have written - Megastore closed because we are putting new items in the store...

 

Also, in the article itself, the word 'Stock' is capitalised.

 

"Saints stores Stock take."

 

Are we all reading too much into it? Is there some hidden Da Vinci Code-esque meaning? The first letters of each word - S s S t - could stand for 'Saints seal Stock transfer'. OOOOOO-ER!

 

:rolleyes:

CB Fry

CB Fry

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Is the person you are quoting merely pointing out that the Echo have worded the article in a way that suggests that Pardew said a bid has been made and rejected, when he did not say anything of the sort (at least not in the interview with Solent). The comment about "confirmed a bid has been made rejected and that we were not going back for another try." is, I believe, a reference to speculation on here rather than what was or was not in the Echo article.....IMHO

 

I have not read every word of every article or listened to every interview, but what from I have read and heard I cannot find anything that confirms that an actual bid has been made and rejected. The fact that SOD has actually been quoted as saying that this is the case tends to lend weight to that argument too. What may have happened being the scenes is anyones guess at the moment.

 

 

Well the Echo didn't. My point stands, people have a go at the Echo for suggesting things that only actually occur in the reader's heads.

 

It looks like a bid hasn't been made, and no publication is saying a bid has been made, the Echo is not saying a bid has been made, but smart-arse "all papers are rags" dinlows come on here and complain about the Echo saying a bid has been made because they've decided they think the Echo are saying a bid have been made.

 

Newsflash - the Echo do not say a bid has been made. So please can people stop grizzling about "rag" newspapers when they don't even say the things the grizzlers are grizzling about.

 

:rolleyes:

Saint_Ash

Saint_Ash

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Also, in the article itself, the word 'Stock' is capitalised.

 

"Saints stores Stock take."

 

Are we all reading too much into it? Is there some hidden Da Vinci Code-esque meaning? The first letters of each word - S s S t - could stand for 'Saints seal Stock transfer'. OOOOOO-ER!

 

:rolleyes:

 

All the words in the headlines of all the stories are capitalised I'm afraid.

 

I like the thinking of tomorrows headline could be "Stock Taken" though! :D

Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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Well the Echo didn't. My point stands, people have a go at the Echo for suggesting things that only actually occur in the reader's heads.

 

It looks like a bid hasn't been made, and no publication is saying a bid has been made, the Echo is not saying a bid has been made, but smart-arse "all papers are rags" dinlows come on here and complain about the Echo saying a bid has been made because they've decided they think the Echo are saying a bid have been made.

 

Newsflash - the Echo do not say a bid has been made. So please can people stop grizzling about "rag" newspapers when they don't even say the things the grizzlers are grizzling about.

 

:rolleyes:

 

 

Get behind the grizzlers FFS! ;)

 

(Sorry, don't really mean that, but not seen it on here for a while and it's kinda fun).

RedAndWhite91

RedAndWhite91

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All the words in the headlines of all the stories are capitalised I'm afraid.

 

I like the thinking of tomorrows headline could be "Stock Taken" though! :D

 

Nope, it says "Saints stores Stock take" in the article ;)

kpturner

kpturner

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Well the Echo didn't. My point stands, people have a go at the Echo for suggesting things that only actually occur in the reader's heads.

 

It looks like a bid hasn't been made, and no publication is saying a bid has been made, the Echo is not saying a bid has been made, but smart-arse "all papers are rags" dinlows come on here and complain about the Echo saying a bid has been made because they've decided they think the Echo are saying a bid have been made.

 

Newsflash - the Echo do not say a bid has been made. So please can people stop grizzling about "rag" newspapers when they don't even say the things the grizzlers are grizzling about.

 

:rolleyes:

 

I can see where the "dinlow"s are coming from though (maybe I am one too :-) ) The Echo said "Saints have made a move to sign Doncaster Rovers skipper Brian Stock, it was revealed tonight."

 

What does "made a move" mean and who "revealed it"? Surely they are alluding to some contact (or even a bid) between the two clubs - or they are just embellishing the Solent interview?

 

They then say "But Southampton boss Alan Pardew claimed that two clubs could not agree on a fee for the 28-year-old midfielder"

 

That implies that they have tried to agree a fee and failed - but Pardew does not claim any such thing in his Solent interview. If anything, he just gave the opinion that they would be unlikely to match Doncaster's valuation if they did make an approach. So did he give the Echo a different interview? If he did then I am sure they would have quoted it.

 

Of course, having said that, it would be difficult to believe that Pardew could express an opinion regarding valuations if there had not previously been some sort of dialogue between SFC and Doncaster.

up and away

up and away

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I can see where the "dinlow"s are coming from though (maybe I am one too :-) ) The Echo said "Saints have made a move to sign Doncaster Rovers skipper Brian Stock, it was revealed tonight."

 

What does "made a move" mean and who "revealed it"? Surely they are alluding to some contact (or even a bid) between the two clubs - or they are just embellishing the Solent interview?

 

They then say "But Southampton boss Alan Pardew claimed that two clubs could not agree on a fee for the 28-year-old midfielder"

 

That implies that they have tried to agree a fee and failed - but Pardew does not claim any such thing in his Solent interview. If anything, he just gave the opinion that they would be unlikely to match Doncaster's valuation if they did make an approach. So did he give the Echo a different interview? If he did then I am sure they would have quoted it.

 

Of course, having said that, it would be difficult to believe that Pardew could express an opinion regarding valuations if there had not previously been some sort of dialogue between SFC and Doncaster.

 

There is no additional interview but for the one on radio Solent after the MK Dons game. But my interpretation of Pardews interview was unequivocal, Doncaster wanted too much for Stock and were not prepared to budge. Pardew did not say this specifically, but the additional comments he had no reason to make, would make no sense otherwise.

kpturner

kpturner

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There is no additional interview but for the one on radio Solent after the MK Dons game. But my interpretation of Pardews interview was unequivocal, Doncaster wanted too much for Stock and were not prepared to budge. Pardew did not say this specifically, but the additional comments he had no reason to make, would make no sense otherwise.
I will wait until tomorrow to hear that and then make up my own mind ;-)
yorkiesaint

yorkiesaint

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Give it up guys and girls, you are clutching at straws. The echo just takes Pardew out of context to conjure a story from nowhere. I think we can also be sure that the OS headline definitely wouldn't be on there if we were really signing Stock, given cortese's views on discretion. No bid has been made, we are not signing him.

 

We need a new rumour to argue about now!

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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http://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/page/News/0,,10329~1936897,00.html

 

Doncaster wouldn't put this on their OS and then sell him imo.

 

I suspect the facebook Brian Stock who said 'hope so.. looks likely' etc wasn't even him.

 

Onto the next rumour....

 

I've lost count at the number of times i've seen our OS publish something like that, only for the player to be sold a week later.

 

Football is dictated by money, if we give them what they want (which i'm sure we will) they'll accept it and he'll come.

 

It was also him on facebook.

Crab Lungs

Crab Lungs

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I've lost count at the number of times i've seen our OS publish something like that, only for the player to be sold a week later.

 

Football is dictated by money, if we give them what they want (which i'm sure we will) they'll accept it and he'll come.

 

It was also him on facebook.

 

I was about to say the exact same thing but you've done it for me. Cheers.

JustMike

JustMike

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All this stuff amazes me, I thought we had already too many players on our books; were seeking to offload quite a few we didn't want. Instead of which we seem intent on filling our squad with even more journeymen, wannabees and one-dimensional numb skulls on job-seekers allowance who'll probably never make it to the first team anyway.

 

So it's loads o' money in the debit column with not much to show on the credit page. This can't be healthy financially and for team morale with lots of new blokes thinking they are on a promise for first team football but in fact unlikely to get a sniff when AP discovers they're no better than what we've got.

 

This situation I do not like. It acannot go on like this. It's time to stop living in a make believe world that buying lots of players is the solution to all our ails. Solution it ain't: we are going to find that out the hard way before too long.

 

Just imagine how long it'll take Pardew to sort out his best eleven and in the best eleven positions after this further upheaval, especially as he hasn't achieved that after half-a-season already.

 

You know what its like... on the record players always say "It's great to have better players coming in and challenging for positions etc, etc" whereas what they really mean is;

 

"F*** this! I thought I was doing OK and the boss like me so now where does that leave me? Sod it, I'm off as soon as I can find another club who really will appreciate me and b*ll**ks to all that effort in training and stuff... "

 

ummm so which one out of jaidi, lambert, harding, hammond, connelly, papa, antonio, otsemobor, fonte and seaborne fall into your categories then?? :rolleyes:

sotonjoe

sotonjoe

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We know it was him on Facebook and we know from him that there was contact between our clubs and that things looked positive. That was last Sunday evening though!

 

To me it looks like we're getting into the tense stage now. Preliminary chats obviously revealed a difference in how we each value him and no official bid has been forthcoming.

 

That doesn't mean it's the end of it by a long way. You only have to look at the Seabourne deal to know that...

 

I still think there's more to come.

Kelly Smunt

Kelly Smunt

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ummm so which one out of jaidi, lambert, harding, hammond, connelly, papa, antonio, otsemobor, fonte and seaborne fall into your categories then?? :rolleyes:

 

just ignore the numb skull job-seeker.

RedAndWhite91

RedAndWhite91

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All this stuff amazes me, I thought we had already too many players on our books; were seeking to offload quite a few we didn't want. Instead of which we seem intent on filling our squad with even more journeymen, wannabees and one-dimensional numb skulls on job-seekers allowance who'll probably never make it to the first team anyway.

 

So it's loads o' money in the debit column with not much to show on the credit page. This can't be healthy financially and for team morale with lots of new blokes thinking they are on a promise for first team football but in fact unlikely to get a sniff when AP discovers they're no better than what we've got.

 

This situation I do not like. It acannot go on like this. It's time to stop living in a make believe world that buying lots of players is the solution to all our ails. Solution it ain't: we are going to find that out the hard way before too long.

 

Just imagine how long it'll take Pardew to sort out his best eleven and in the best eleven positions after this further upheaval, especially as he hasn't achieved that after half-a-season already.

 

You know what its like... on the record players always say "It's great to have better players coming in and challenging for positions etc, etc" whereas what they really mean is;

 

"F*** this! I thought I was doing OK and the boss like me so now where does that leave me? Sod it, I'm off as soon as I can find another club who really will appreciate me and b*ll**ks to all that effort in training and stuff... "

 

I never read your posts, I see your username at the top and then completely disregard everything you say, knowing it will most probably be bullsh!t.

kpturner

kpturner

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I never read your posts, I see your username at the top and then completely disregard everything you say, knowing it will most probably be bullsh!t.
Except this time - clearly :-) Edited by kpturner
beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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ummm so which one out of jaidi, lambert, harding, hammond, connelly, papa, antonio, otsemobor, fonte and seaborne fall into your categories then?? :rolleyes:

 

I doubt he will answer, but perhaps when he looks at our squad the ones he means are Pulis, Molyneux, Thomson, Saga, Lancashire........all of whom do not feature anywhere near the first team, and he has just forgotten they were here before AP arrived ;)

Soggy Bottom

Soggy Bottom

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We know it was him on Facebook and we know from him that there was contact between our clubs and that things looked positive. That was last Sunday evening though!

 

To me it looks like we're getting into the tense stage now. Preliminary chats obviously revealed a difference in how we each value him and no official bid has been forthcoming.

 

That doesn't mean it's the end of it by a long way. You only have to look at the Seabourne deal to know that...

 

I still think there's more to come.

 

Maybe they're forcing his hand, takes the flake of the club when a player puts in a transfer request, it's all the players fault then, they save face to losing there best player to a lower league team.

Crab Lungs

Crab Lungs

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Says on Sky Sports info bar

 

"Doncaster have rejected a bid from southampton for captain Brian Stock"

 

I guess that means we've made an offer?

 

 

re-hashing the news from last week, now it's public I 'spose.

Colinjb

Colinjb

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Er the exact text is as follows:

 

'Doncaster DENY reports club REJECTED bed from Southampton for captain Brian Stock.'

 

They are denying they rejected a bid.

So, either there has been no bid or they have accepted one!

saint.tom.clancy

saint.tom.clancy

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Er the exact text is as follows:

 

'Doncaster DENY reports club REJECTED bed from Southampton for captain Brian Stock.'

 

They are denying they rejected a bid.

So, either there has been no bid or they have accepted one!

 

I'm guessing they've accepted one! ;)

sotonjoe

sotonjoe

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Maybe they're forcing his hand, takes the flake of the club when a player puts in a transfer request, it's all the players fault then, they save face to losing there best player to a lower league team.

 

 

Yes, that may be part of it.

 

Doncaster won't have any intention of rushing the deal through with him being a key player. Saints don't want to be held to ransom just because they are a 'rich' club.

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