S-Clarke Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 We had about 3/4 bids rejected by Exeter for seaborne, before we finally agreed a fee. If pard's really wants him, he'll be in a saints shirt before feb 1st.
John B Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 We had about 3/4 bids rejected by Exeter for seaborne, before we finally agreed a fee. If pard's really wants him, he'll be in a saints shirt before feb 1st. Very True
sotonjoe Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 O'Driscol saying they should talk to him or Pardew. I don't think he realises that the media has direct quotes from Pardew. Does he not realise maybe Saints have made the bid above his head to the powers that be, at the club? Exactly ... and from Stock as well
Block 5 Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/doncaster/8466149.stm O'Driscoll told BBC Radio Sheffield: "It's just a ruse to sell papers. Nobody's contacted me from Southampton. "You [should] get a direct quote from me or a direct quote from [saints manager] Alan [Pardew], not just write things that upset us people and players." Is that a lol at O'Driscoll?
Saint Fan CaM Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 Has AP actually stated that we have put an offer in though? Please find a quote if he has. I think he has said he likes the player - that Donny don't match our valuation of him. But I am not sure he has actually said anything about making a bid. So O'Driscoll might be perfectly correct in what he is saying.
krissyboy31 Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 Has AP actually stated that we have put an offer in though? Please find a quote if he has. I think he has said he likes the player - that Donny don't match our valuation of him. But I am not sure he has actually said anything about making a bid. So O'Driscoll might be perfectly correct in what he is saying. The report says he denies we have enquired about Stock. AP wouldn't know that the valuations were different if he (or the Club) hadn't asked the question.
NickG Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 http://www.drfc-vsc.co.uk/index.php?option=com_kunena&Itemid=57&func=view&catid=999999&id=62663
Block 5 Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 The report says he denies we have enquired about Stock. AP wouldn't know that the valuations were different if he (or the Club) hadn't asked the question. http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4855457.Pardew_makes_move_for_Stock/ Saints have made a move to sign Doncaster Rovers skipper Brian Stock, it was revealed tonight. But Southampton boss Alan Pardew claimed that two clubs could not agree on a fee for the 28-year-old midfielder, pictured. With Saints captain Dean Hammond suffering Achilles damage in today’s draw at Millwall and out for at least two weeks Pardew may well be looking to strengthen his midfield with two weeks left of the transfer window. Stock returned to the Doncaster side today in their 2-1 Championship win over Watford after being out of action since September with an ankle injury. Born in Winchester it is understood that Stock would welcome a move back to the south coast. But Pardew said today that Saints would not match Doncaster’s price tag for the former Cherries star. No direct quotes from AP but the Echo would be in even more mire if he had said nothing along those lines.
Block 5 Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 fans think they should get £2.5m for him! Well that's got to be a possible sticking point for any deal!
NickG Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 tbf - 1 fan says that! others want over £1m one is more realistic talking about his age etc
Kingsland Red Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 Maybe this is a direct quote from AP: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11734_5869463,00.html We should offer Gillet plus a few others not featuring in our first team squad and kill two birds.
thorpie the sinner Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 With all this foreplay taking place, its wierd that SG hasn't been mentioned at all! Is he back training with saints and available for selection on Wed night! With hammond out and Stocky not signing imminently, we may bloody need him!
Block 5 Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 With all this foreplay taking place, its wierd that SG hasn't been mentioned at all! Is he back training with saints and available for selection on Wed night! With hammond out and Stocky not signing imminently, we may bloody need him! Very good point. Anyone know?
NickG Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 and theirs http://www.doncasterroversfc.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10329~35238,00.html
SNSUN Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 Maybe this is a direct quote from AP: http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11734_5869463,00.html We should offer Gillet plus a few others not featuring in our first team squad and kill two birds. Saga would be a quality striker for them! It's all about trying to convince them that Pulis is too...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4855457.Pardew_makes_move_for_Stock/ Saints have made a move to sign Doncaster Rovers skipper Brian Stock, it was revealed tonight. But Southampton boss Alan Pardew claimed that two clubs could not agree on a fee for the 28-year-old midfielder, pictured. With Saints captain Dean Hammond suffering Achilles damage in today’s draw at Millwall and out for at least two weeks Pardew may well be looking to strengthen his midfield with two weeks left of the transfer window. Stock returned to the Doncaster side today in their 2-1 Championship win over Watford after being out of action since September with an ankle injury. Born in Winchester it is understood that Stock would welcome a move back to the south coast. But Pardew said today that Saints would not match Doncaster’s price tag for the former Cherries star. No direct quotes from AP but the Echo would be in even more mire if he had said nothing along those lines. Sorry, but ALL I can see is press speculation. Not ONE direct quote from AP in any of those rags. And I think AP has been mis-quoted regarding Stock - he said very carefully that Saints valuation of the player would not meet Donny's. That is a million miles from confirming that a bid had been made, rejected and that we were not going back for another try. Having said that, how many times have we heard a manager state that no offers have been received, only to then be told later that the player is on his way?
NickG Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 it was on the threads after game saturday when he said it on radio
Pilchards Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 Saga would be a quality striker for them! It's all about trying to convince them that Pulis is too... I think a problem we have here is Saga demands a crazy wage packet elsewhere as he will continue to collect his (at least 12k a week) at Saints. Why move for less?
Matthew Le God Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 Sorry, but ALL I can see is press speculation. Not ONE direct quote from AP in any of those rags. And I think AP has been mis-quoted regarding Stock - he said very carefully that Saints valuation of the player would not meet Donny's. That is a million miles from confirming that a bid had been made, rejected and that we were not going back for another try. Having said that, how many times have we heard a manager state that no offers have been received, only to then be told later that the player is on his way? Go on Saints player and you can hear the interview with BBC Radio Solent for yourself. Pardew clearly states a bid has been made for Stock.
hypochondriac Posted 18 January, 2010 Author Posted 18 January, 2010 FFS just pay what Donny want and sign him. He's clearly worth 800k.
kpturner Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 Go on Saints player and you can hear the interview with BBC Radio Solent for yourself. Pardew clearly states a bid has been made for Stock. I listened to it, and I don't hear him say that at all. He says that Stock "is a player I know very well and I know he is from the area but that doesn't mean to say that we can match the valuation of Doncaster for their captain, so that is a bit of a long shot for us". At no point does he mention that we have actually made a bid, unless they have edited the piece since you listened to it.
Saint_clark Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 I listened to it, and I don't hear him say that at all. He says that Stock "is a player I know very well and I know he is from the area but that doesn't mean to say that we can match the valuation of Doncaster for their captain, so that is a bit of a long shot for us". At no point does he mention that we have actually made a bid, unless they have edited the piece since you listened to it. You're clutching at straws to try and prove yourself right here.
kpturner Posted 18 January, 2010 Posted 18 January, 2010 You're clutching at straws to try and prove yourself right here.You've baffled the hell out of me with that comment, that is for sure.
Hopkins Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Go on Saints player and you can hear the interview with BBC Radio Solent for yourself. Pardew clearly states a bid has been made for Stock. He clearly doesn't say that at all tbf. All he says is the valuations don't meet. You'd have to be very naive and have a lack of knowledge about how football works nowadays to think that valuations and availabilities of players are not discussed left right and centre between football clubs/agents/players all over the country before an actual bid is even thought about.
woodsaint Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Came across on the ssn ticker that doncaster rejected a bid from us for stock. Duno how to take it though, they did say we signed ward lol
corky morris Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12876_5870269,00.html S O'D says we aint made a bid!
trousers Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 FFS just pay what Donny want and sign him. He's clearly worth 800k. This
trousers Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Very good point. Anyone know? Ask his sponsor....
CB Fry Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 (edited) http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4855457.Pardew_makes_move_for_Stock/ Saints have made a move to sign Doncaster Rovers skipper Brian Stock, it was revealed tonight. But Southampton boss Alan Pardew claimed that two clubs could not agree on a fee for the 28-year-old midfielder, pictured. With Saints captain Dean Hammond suffering Achilles damage in today’s draw at Millwall and out for at least two weeks Pardew may well be looking to strengthen his midfield with two weeks left of the transfer window. Stock returned to the Doncaster side today in their 2-1 Championship win over Watford after being out of action since September with an ankle injury. Born in Winchester it is understood that Stock would welcome a move back to the south coast. But Pardew said today that Saints would not match Doncaster’s price tag for the former Cherries star. No direct quotes from AP but the Echo would be in even more mire if he had said nothing along those lines. The story above says Saints have made a move for Stock but the two clubs cannot currently agree on a fee. Any smart arse want to argue with this? Ah, here's a smart arse right on cue.... Sorry, but ALL I can see is press speculation. Not ONE direct quote from AP in any of those rags. And I think AP has been mis-quoted regarding Stock - he said very carefully that Saints valuation of the player would not meet Donny's. That is a million miles from confirming that a bid had been made, rejected and that we were not going back for another try. Having said that, how many times have we heard a manager state that no offers have been received, only to then be told later that the player is on his way? The Echo story doesn't mention the fact we've made a bid so you are falling over yourself to say the Echo is making stuff up that you yourself have made up. And the Echo story also doesn't mention we have "confirmed a bid has been made rejected and that we were not going back for another try.". Again, you're getting all bothered about "press speculation" when the Echo story doesn't mention what you are yourself speculating. But you carry on ranting on about "rags" and lying about the text in said newspapers and then complaining about it. Them newspapers eh? Aren't they terrible and stuff making stuff up in your own head Edited 19 January, 2010 by CB Fry
SNSUN Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 I think a problem we have here is Saga demands a crazy wage packet elsewhere as he will continue to collect his (at least 12k a week) at Saints. Why move for less? Love of football? If he truly wanted to play, he'd take a pay cut. As to whether that cut would be enough for a club like Donny, is another matter! Sadly footballers are paid so much these days, we're setting him up for retirement, rather than encouraging him to play elsewhere on less.
sotonjoe Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 "Does anybody know if Stock has signed yet?"
kpturner Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 (edited) The Echo story doesn't mention the fact we've made a bid so you are falling over yourself to say the Echo is making stuff up that you yourself have made up. And the Echo story also doesn't mention we have "confirmed a bid has been made rejected and that we were not going back for another try.". Again, you're getting all bothered about "press speculation" when the Echo story doesn't mention what you are yourself speculating. But you carry on ranting on about "rags" and lying about the text in said newspapers and then complaining about it. Them newspapers eh? Aren't they terrible and stuff making stuff up in your own head Is the person you are quoting merely pointing out that the Echo have worded the article in a way that suggests that Pardew said a bid has been made and rejected, when he did not say anything of the sort (at least not in the interview with Solent). The comment about "confirmed a bid has been made rejected and that we were not going back for another try." is, I believe, a reference to speculation on here rather than what was or was not in the Echo article.....IMHO I have not read every word of every article or listened to every interview, but what from I have read and heard I cannot find anything that confirms that an actual bid has been made and rejected. The fact that SOD has actually been quoted as saying that this is the case tends to lend weight to that argument too. What may have happened being the scenes is anyones guess at the moment. Edited 19 January, 2010 by kpturner
Scudamore Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Love of football? If he truly wanted to play, he'd take a pay cut. As to whether that cut would be enough for a club like Donny, is another matter! Sadly footballers are paid so much these days, we're setting him up for retirement, rather than encouraging him to play elsewhere on less. I think he's willing to take the paycut. But as long as it comes with the bonus of playing European football. Taking a paycut and playing for a lower league English team in a gash hole town is a bridge too far however.
yorkiesaint Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 I think we can safely say we are not signing Stock, end of.
thorpie the sinner Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 I think we can safely say we are not signing Stock, end of. The fat lady aint sung yet Yorkie!
thorpie the sinner Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 I am still very hopeful if nothing else because of the Simon Gillett link!! Decent replacement straight in!
sotonjoe Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 "Will he be unveiled on the pitch this weekend?"
thorpie the sinner Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 "Will he be unveiled on the pitch this weekend?" That would be great! I am taking my son to his first ever game!! That would be a real bonus!!!
Saint Without a Halo Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 fans think they should get £2.5m for him! But fortunately chairman, finance directors and managers sell players and not fans! They have different needs and hence different valuations!
paris Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Very very misleading title on the OS this morning ,poss something to wet our lips...
Scudamore Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 That would be great! I am taking my son to his first ever game!! That would be a real bonus!!! "Daddy? Why are they doing this?" "I don't know son. I just don't know."
thorpie the sinner Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Very very misleading title on the OS this morning ,poss something to wet our lips... what was that?
thorpie the sinner Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 "Daddy? Why are they doing this?" "I don't know son. I just don't know." lol!!! I am hoping he will see a great game and a Saints victory!! He is looking forward to getting the saints scarf and hat combo more at mo!!!
JibMcdo Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Very very misleading title on the OS this morning ,poss something to wet our lips... Haha! Good to see they have a sense of humour.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 I think a problem we have here is Saga demands a crazy wage packet elsewhere as he will continue to collect his (at least 12k a week) at Saints. Why move for less? There is a way around that in that we can continue to pay the balance till the end of his original contract if that is an issue deals can and have in the past been done this way it all depends on how the overall deal pans out. anyway his contract runs out in the summer so he cant sit back for much longer!
Paul Chuckle Posted 19 January, 2010 Posted 19 January, 2010 Is the OS hinting something or am i reading to much in to this? http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1937108,00.html
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