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Pat from Poole

Pat from Poole

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Pardew reminded me a little bit of Redknapp actually when he was asked about Stock on Solent. A clear indication of an interest, but negativity about the likelihood of a deal being completed. It's a clear Redknapp tactic, which invariably seems to work more often than not.

 

Look at Redknapp's comments before the Skates signed Crouch and Defoe, "Oh yeah, for sure I'd love to have him here, but i don't think there's a chance he'll come here." type of thing. It's an obvious call to the player's agent to get sh1t-stirring and put pressure on for the deal to happen.

Badger

Badger

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It's going to be a deadline day deal then. Doncaster will have a choice - £1m (or whatever our final offer is) from us, or nothing in the summer.

I think they need the money.

 

Actually I don't think thats the case,as I've read his contract runs to 2011.

NickG

NickG

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Question: Would acquiring Stock vastly improve our chance of reaching the playoffs this season?

 

can't remember seeing him play but seems well thought of.

 

Player of season in CCC side last year.

 

Vastly? Not sure of that.

Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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Question: Would acquiring Stock vastly improve our chance of reaching the playoffs this season?

 

 

Not necessarily, but it would give us a significant option for an attack minded central midfield that does not exist with just Wotton sat on the bench.

ericofarabia

ericofarabia

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Pardew reminded me a little bit of Redknapp actually when he was asked about Stock on Solent. A clear indication of an interest, but negativity about the likelihood of a deal being completed. It's a clear Redknapp tactic, which invariably seems to work more often than not.

 

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How very dare you compere AP had Bagpuss :mad:

 

It's the stuffed full (tax free LOL) brown paper bags that sealed Redkraps deals f'sure. ;)

CB Fry

CB Fry

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Actually I don't think thats the case,as I've read his contract runs to 2011.

 

 

Fair enough, I don't know either way. I was going on the post before mine.

Weston Saint

Weston Saint

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Echo are quoting that Doncaster are asking for £800,000 but we feel that is too much.

 

He was signed by Doncaster from Bournemouth for £150,000

 

I would assume that Saints value about £500,000

 

Stock contract with Doncaster expires June 2011.

Badger

Badger

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Echo are quoting that Doncaster are asking for £800,000 but we feel that is too much.

 

He was signed by Doncaster from Bournemouth for £150,000

 

I would assume that Saints value about £500,000

 

Stock contract with Doncaster expires June 2011.

 

Christ,£800,00 does not seem unreasonable for a player who over the last two seasons has been 'talked of' in the £1m plus range,some reports (admittedly not a sound source of valuation) at £2M.

 

If anything I suspect it could be the structure of the deal - ie £upfront,add ons after promotion,and even Gilletts value - that might be an issue.

Saint Without a Halo

Saint Without a Halo

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Christ,£800,00 does not seem unreasonable for a player who over the last two seasons has been 'talked of' in the £1m plus range,some reports (admittedly not a sound source of valuation) at £2M.

 

If anything I suspect it could be the structure of the deal - ie £upfront,add ons after promotion,and even Gilletts value - that might be an issue.

 

If it was such a good deal why aren't others in then? This is a negotiation if we get him for 500k rather than 800k all the better. We need to be patient and let the club negotiate! a lot of deals will inevitably go down to the wire and depend ultimately on whose nerve goes first!

 

A real market valuation is only ever what somewone is prepared to pay!

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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Echo are quoting that Doncaster are asking for £800,000 but we feel that is too much.

 

He was signed by Doncaster from Bournemouth for £150,000

 

I would assume that Saints value about £500,000

 

Stock contract with Doncaster expires June 2011.

 

i'd have expected them to be demanding upwards of £1m, which IMO, is fair.

 

i guess we're arguing that Gillett will be part of the deal, so that will bring the price down.....but then again, wern't we prepared to let him go for 50k or something silly?

 

tbf i expect this to go to the wire, if pard's really wants him, he'll get him.

Scummer

Scummer

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If it was such a good deal why aren't others in then? This is a negotiation if we get him for 500k rather than 800k all the better. We need to be patient and let the club negotiate! a lot of deals will inevitably go down to the wire and depend ultimately on whose nerve goes first!

 

A real market valuation is only ever what somewone is prepared to pay!

 

Depends how serious we are about going up this year. You'd think we'd want him in as soon as possible. I guess we'd have a week from now to get him in time for the Brentford match, but I'd like players to at least train a couple of times with their new team mates before playing a match.

CWD

CWD

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I reckon (not ITK, just a hunch) that we will sign Stock at the end of the window for around 750k + SG. Seems like a fair amount imo for a player who is out of contract in a few months. I think people are underestimating just how much the length of contract effects price.

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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Seems odd that we would spend over a million on fonte and then seemingly go for the cheap option in seaborne and haggle over te price of someone who is clearly worth 800K. Have we blown all our budget on one player?

Pilchards

Pilchards

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I can't see that we are pulling away from this deal if it's just 800k.

What's that if it helps us get the season back on track?

 

Anyway I have a feeling that it's alot more but the situation regarding Gillet is making us think he's worth more!

fingers crossed on this one.

kpturner

kpturner

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Personally I haven't seen Stock play enough to have an informed opinion of his worth, but I presume SFC have done their homework. Given our recent history, I can't help feeling it is a little crass to want the club to pay what they consider to be "over the odds" just because we can afford it. Doesn't that sort of behaviour just start to inflate the market and shaft then less well off clubs in the long run?

scotty

scotty

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This from the Solent Twitter feed:

solentsport Doncaster boss Sean O'Driscoll tells BBC Solent he's had "no contact and no bid" from #Saintsfc for midfielder Brian Stock

 

^^why does anybody, anywhere give a flying f*ck what twitter says? This baffles me, I mean what is it?...a f*cking low-grade gossip site full of bullsh*t, half-truths and outright lies. And stephen fry. And alan f*cking davis. But people talk about them in hushed tones as if it was the word of God delivered with a cast-iron guarantee of infallibility :confused:

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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Sorry, but I missed something along the line. Did AP confirm that he is interested in Stock on Solent? If so, what exactly did he say?

 

 

''He's a player i like alot, he would be a fantastic addition for us. But at the moment our valuation does not meet doncasters valuation''

kpturner

kpturner

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^^why does anybody, anywhere give a flying f*ck what twitter says? This baffles me, I mean what is it?...a f*cking low-grade gossip site full of bullsh*t, half-truths and outright lies. And stephen fry. And alan f*cking davis. But people talk about them in hushed tones as if it was the word of God delivered with a cast-iron guarantee of infallibility :confused:
You are not a fan then?
thorpie the sinner

thorpie the sinner

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''He's a player i like alot, he would be a fantastic addition for us. But at the moment our valuation does not meet doncasters valuation''

 

bloody wierd that we haven't made contact!! Something def isn't adding up!!! I don't mind the mind games as long as we get him!!

scotty

scotty

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As usual this is all mind games - since AP said he wanted this player he put preasure on our Chairman Cortese (spelling) to get this deal done.

 

the spellings ok if you're in thailand.

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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Sounds like those 2 articles are rehashed versions of what AP said after the game.

 

He mentioned valuations, he likes the player and that the 2 clubs have ''differing valuations''

sotonjoe

sotonjoe

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This from the Solent Twitter feed:

solentsport Doncaster boss Sean O'Driscoll tells BBC Solent he's had "no contact and no bid" from #Saintsfc for midfielder Brian Stock

 

 

Well, we know that's a lie.

krissyboy31

krissyboy31

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^^why does anybody, anywhere give a flying f*ck what twitter says? This baffles me, I mean what is it?...a f*cking low-grade gossip site full of bullsh*t, half-truths and outright lies. And stephen fry. And alan f*cking davis. But people talk about them in hushed tones as if it was the word of God delivered with a cast-iron guarantee of infallibility :confused:

 

It's a snapshot preview of their impending report! It's not some twit just making things up.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/d/doncaster/8466149.stm

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