hamster Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 At mi££ion I heard a short while ago we were interested, but the Gills want a lot more than that. Personally I would pay double that and he'd be one to still be with us in the Prem (whenever that might be. I fear that even if we could go that high he'd be lured by a massive salary elsewhere. I'm not itk, but I have a friend who reckons that he is and the last he told me was that Saints never even got back to them when they were quoted 1.5 m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 I think Barnard would be a better option than Jackson, and probably about £500k cheaper. Not sure about that. Jackson's a pacy striker whereas Barnard's more of a target man. Lambert and Barnard tbh would probably just get in each others way, whereas Lambert and Jackson would compliment each other perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 you may be right LGTC the next time we face huddersfield, they may be managerless...could they then decline..? Or new manager syndrome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 At mi££ion I heard a short while ago we were interested, but the Gills want a lot more than that. Personally I would pay double that and he'd be one to still be with us in the Prem (whenever that might be. I fear that even if we could go that high he'd be lured by a massive salary elsewhere. I'm not itk, but I have a friend who reckons that he is and the last he told me was that Saints never even got back to them when they were quoted 1.5 m. To be honest, I can't help feeling £1.5m is a bit overpriced, when someone like Barnard has more league goals, is a bit cheaper and is, reportedly, available for £250k-£500k. That said, if AP wants him that badly, and that's the price, then won't complain if he signs as he'd probably be a good foil for Rickie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Better to spend 1.5m and not have to worry about the strikers for a while. Bernard may well be cheaper but we'd have to replace him much sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Agree. Like him or not Saganowski easily has the talent to make a massive impact in this league. Something obviously isn't right, but its one of the big reservations I have about Pardew. Its his job to either get rid or get him motivated and playing. Good managers must often find themselves with under-motivated stars these days, part of their job is to get the most out of these players. I'd hate to know how much we're paying for Saga's wages right now. Disagree. If saga doesnt want to be here, and he has said he doesnt, he isnt worth putting on the pitch. And as he is on a nice juicy contract negotiated in better days, there is no reason for him to leave voluntarily and quit a steady and lucrative paypacket. Pardew cant do much about that other than not play him and hope he sees sense and f*cks off; who is going to want to pay much for a player that cant get on the pitch in a L1 side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Don't you think the pressure was on as soon as he took the job on? He knew what the plan was and what is expected of him then. Why more so now? Yes it's all about expectations. I'm not saying the 5 year plan has become a 3 year plan but I believe expectations have ratcheted up with AP's statement about the play offs and the acquisition of Forte and maybe others in this window [rather than in the summer]. AP has managed expectations quite well up to now but it will become more difficult. I think it's positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 [brian Howard] He shares transport with Raziak and commutes daily. That seems far too sensible to be a footballer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 January, 2010 Share Posted 14 January, 2010 In Thursday's Gillingham paper... http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentonline/sport/2010/january/14/simeon_jackson.aspx Southampton are the latest club linked to the signing of Jackson but Stimson said: “It can affect you but I’ve had a chat with him and he’s fine about all of the speculation. "If it’s going to happen, it’s going to happen and he’s done his bit. He just needs to keep his focus." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibMcdo Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 That seems to suggest he might be going somewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 Well, we seem to be signing someone every day this week, so let's see what Friday holds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergie Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 Yeah sounds like stimpson is accepting that something might happen with Jackson. This is the name i had on my lips at the starts on the transfer window, would be awesome and he's fairly quick too. be great playing with either rickie or connolly. but in pards we trust, personally think he'll get a midfielder and be done with it and switch between 4-4-2 and 4-5-1 depending on if connolly is fit or not!!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 Might explain why we went for the lower wage option rather than Elliott Ward. AP is surely having to balance a book at the end of the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 Paul Hart being sacked tonight may have helped, as apparently he wanted to bring him to QPR which can't happen now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 This really would be an awesome signing if true. In fact, its too good to be true, so it isn't going to happen. Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 Paul Hart being sacked tonight may have helped, as apparently he wanted to bring him to QPR which can't happen now. What a joke that club is. Jackson would be a cracking signing, will we fork out another million quid this transfer window though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 Might explain why we went for the lower wage option rather than Elliott Ward. AP is surely having to balance a book at the end of the day. ..........also the signing of the Norwich lad means James can play in midfield or on the right hand side which reduces the need for another midfielder hence more cash for SJ......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 This will NEVER happen. CLOSED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 This will NEVER happen. CLOSED Calm down this is only a forum. It hardly matters what is written here anyway. The idea is just to give a view. Relax it might happen. Judging on this week's transfers noone can predict anything can they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 Calm down this is only a forum. It hardly matters what is written here anyway. The idea is just to give a view. Relax it might happen. Judging on this week's transfers noone can predict anything can they? Well that is Glasgow Saints View and mine also - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibMcdo Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 This will NEVER happen. CLOSED You can only make yourself look like a **** with statements like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 Yes it's all about expectations. I'm not saying the 5 year plan has become a 3 year plan but I believe expectations have ratcheted up with AP's statement about the play offs and the acquisition of Forte and maybe others in this window [rather than in the summer]. AP has managed expectations quite well up to now but it will become more difficult. I think it's positive. I agree, he has. No talk about play offs when we were struggling to get out of the relegation zone but now we have climbed the table and are in a position to mount a challenge he is talking it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 I agree, he has. No talk about play offs when we were struggling to get out of the relegation zone but now we have climbed the table and are in a position to mount a challenge he is talking it up. NC said he wanted top 2 at the start of the season..I believe pardew stated he wanted promotion when he first joined.. this quickly changed after it became apparent we were crap to start with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 think his target, to make play offs possible, was within 7 points by the end of Jan - still possible, although weather meant one less home game to achieve that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 NC said he wanted top 2 at the start of the season..I believe pardew stated he wanted promotion when he first joined.. this quickly changed after it became apparent we were crap to start with I think you might be making up quotes to suit your own agenda. This is a quote from Pardew when he took over... "Our immediate plan is get rid of this minus 10 points, then see how long we have got left. If it's three or four months we can have a go at the play-offs. I'm not aiming higher than that. " As far as I recall, that's the same rhetoric that Pardew kept preaching; that and the 5 year plan. As for your quote from Cortese, this was attributed to him at the start of the season... "Cortese's plan is for the club to win promotion from League One in two seasons and reach the Premier League in five years. He does not expect Liebherr to enjoy a return on his investment until the club returns to the top flight but reckons Saints can break even in the Championship. In the meantime, there are funds available for Pardew to mould his squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 NC said he wanted top 2 at the start of the season..I believe pardew stated he wanted promotion when he first joined.. this quickly changed after it became apparent we were crap to start with You got a link to any of these comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 You got a link to any of these comments? was at the fans forum...NC said when he sat down with the the charlton chairman they were discussing teams/football...the other guy said something about what is he hoping for saints...NC replied, finishing in the top 2 NC said that the charlton chairman looked at him stunned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 was at the fans forum...NC said when he sat down with the the charlton chairman they were discussing teams/football...the other guy said something about what is he hoping for saints...NC replied, finishing in the top 2 NC said that the charlton chairman looked at him stunned Fair do's TDD - just hadn't seen asny of those comments out in the big wide world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 (edited) Simeon Jackson would be the "League One Marquee" signing of the window IMO. Fonte was a start, but we'd be getting even more attention from the media if we signed Jackson. Marquee signings aren't the be all and end all, I'd rather see the club act sensibly than to splash out to make us happy (I suppose that'd be the case with Seaborne over Ward*), but I reckon signing Jackson would guarantee us an extra TV game or two before the season is over. And that can only be positive financially. (Ignoring the Sky curse of course...) Edited 15 January, 2010 by SNSUN Not that Seaborne doesn't make us happy, I'm looking forward to seeing him play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 jackson has now become the second coming...is he actually any good..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 jackson has now become the second coming...is he actually any good..? very good question lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 very good question lol I mean...he has scored 10 goals so far (i think) whoopee do... someone said he was good when we played gills this season, then another pointed out he did not even play.. I wonder how many people on here have seen him play for 3 games or so...my guess..about 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 I mean...he has scored 10 goals so far (i think) whoopee do... someone said he was good when we played gills this season, then another pointed out he did not even play.. I wonder how many people on here have seen him play for 3 games or so...my guess..about 2 To be fair, we are getting worked up because of what we have heard! If you actually put the question out there, who they were, what position etc, half of us would be stumped!! I trust the management team at mo, so prepared to see how they perform!! I have seen Stock play and really think he could do a job!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 A selection of his Gillingham goals - make up your own mind how good he is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 was at the fans forum...NC said when he sat down with the the charlton chairman they were discussing teams/football...the other guy said something about what is he hoping for saints...NC replied, finishing in the top 2 NC said that the charlton chairman looked at him stunned Fair do's TDD - just hadn't seen asny of those comments out in the big wide world. Here you go... http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/paulfletcher/2009/09/back_from_the_brink_southampto.html?page=15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 Guys i think Jackson would be the dream signing for most Saints fans. A look at his goals shows he needs to play with a target man, that being Lambert. I really feel we could do with an injection of pace up front and Jackson would be a player who would not only be good enough for this league, but the Championship and possibly higher. He has had a slight goal drought lately which may work for us and put other clubs off ie QPR/ Wolves who were looking. Barnard would be cheaper but he is slower and i feel Jackson would be a better fit. Of course its all down to finance as i imagine the Gills want upward of £1.5 mill for him especially as Dagenham his old club have a 20% sell on clause. I feel he will go in this window, but this one might run a little while longer, as the Gills will try and hold out for as much cash as possible. I feel we only need 2 more players now, another striker and another midefielder Ideal Scenario : Jackson/ Stock or Danns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 I mean...he has scored 10 goals so far (i think) whoopee do... someone said he was good when we played gills this season, then another pointed out he did not even play.. I wonder how many people on here have seen him play for 3 games or so...my guess..about 2 He's got a pretty impressive scoring record, pace to burn, is young and this goal against Villa (4:34mins) shows some real potential. Does this mean he's Michael Owen? No of course he's not. Most of his goalscoring record is in League 2. Most of his goals are tap-ins. Still in relative terms a million bucks for a goalscorer is worth a punt and people are always going to get excited at the possibility of goals. It's what we go to football for. Must you insist on p:ssing on peoples bonfires every single time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Naive Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 I mean...he has scored 10 goals so far (i think) whoopee do... someone said he was good when we played gills this season, then another pointed out he did not even play.. I wonder how many people on here have seen him play for 3 games or so...my guess..about 2 I've seen him play twice for Rushden and Diamonds and I think people are getting carried away. OK, he's obviously improved since then but talk of paying millions for him and him being a Prem standard striker are astonishing. He is very quick, and gets in good positions, but both times I saw him his finishing wasn't great. Reminded me of Aaron Mclean of P'boro when he was at Aldershot – loads of speed but disappointing end product. McLean has improved his finishing greatly since then, so I'm not saying Jackson can't be a good CCC player, but Prem? Sceptical about that. Might be able to get McLean much cheaper than Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 I've seen him play twice for Rushden and Diamonds and I think people are getting carried away. OK, he's obviously improved since then but talk of paying millions for him and him being a Prem standard striker are astonishing. He is very quick, and gets in good positions, but both times I saw him his finishing wasn't great. Reminded me of Aaron Mclean of P'boro when he was at Aldershot – loads of speed but disappointing end product. McLean has improved his finishing greatly since then, so I'm not saying Jackson can't be a good CCC player, but Prem? Sceptical about that. Might be able to get McLean much cheaper than Jackson. Personally I think we should be playing for now. Jackson may not be a Premier League quality player, but the fact of the matter is we are not in the Premier League, we are in League One, and by most accounts Jackson is a proven L1 player. If we do get to the Prem in 5/6 years or whatever, then I've no doubt that we would not hesitate in spending 7 or 8 million on a proven PL or European striker. Jackson could do a job in getting us out of this league, and perhaps in the CCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibMcdo Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 On the basis of that viedo alone, I'd try and sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 I just cannot believe we would pay as much for him as we did for lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 i can't see us paying big for a stiker tbh. we'll probably pay big for a midfielder, but possibly bring a striker in on a free as cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 Could we possibly change the thread title? Misleading... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 was at the fans forum...NC said when he sat down with the the charlton chairman they were discussing teams/football...the other guy said something about what is he hoping for saints...NC replied, finishing in the top 2 NC said that the charlton chairman looked at him stunned You seem to be on a bit of a crusade TDD. Not quite sure why, we all have the right to opinions and we all want good stuff to happen to this club. But you do know that that comment was tongue in cheek and that their real goal, as stated countless times back in the summer, where this quote comes from, is promotion in 2 years and premiership in 5 (fingers crossed!) And this scenario would be great. They also stated, believe it was AP, that if we were in striking distance of the play offs this season, we would try and acquire players and kick on after January. Personally, I think we are bang on schedule for the best possible outcome for this season, and that is reaching the play-offs. Now, I know you;re not bashing the new owners as you have said this previously: "not really..we are a bloody good league 1 team...just short of numbers... our "starting 11" is pretty strong..trouble is, the key players dont really have a rest " You want us to reach those play-offfs as much as the rest of us, but, your opinions seem to be a kind of self destruct button. It's almost as if you want us to fail (sub-consciously) because we have failed our expectations so long now. To fight against the tide is the best way, because you won;t be so disappointed when we fall short. Let me help you, if I may, we don't know where we will end up this season. We don;t know what will happen next season if we do or don;t get promoted. The future is undetermined and we need to support our team on the pitch as we always have. And so, I value your opinion, BUT, don;t allow yourself to fall into the trap that some posters do, of allowing that opinion to become a constant beating of the drum. Ask the questions, but accept and respect the response. We are where we are today because of hard work by all, the owners are giving us every opportunity to progress further. We're in league 1 and covering our costs, we're buying players for now and the future, ML and NC want us to succeed, we want us to succeed, you want us to succeed. It's a nail biting, scarey roller coaster ride to the end of the season, hold on tight lad, it's only going to get more adrenalin filled the closer we get. Is it gonna be 'ooo so close' or a euphoric march down Wembley way? I'm buckled in, I suggest you do the same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmonkey1979 Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 i can't see us paying big for a stiker tbh. we'll probably pay big for a midfielder, but possibly bring a striker in on a free as cover. Agreed. I think Mifsud will be signed as the striker on a free and Stock as the midfielder for big money + Gillett. Anything else would probably a bonus, and would be dependant on players leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 Reminded me of Aaron Mclean of P'boro when he was at Aldershot – loads of speed but disappointing end product. McLean has improved his finishing greatly since then, so I'm not saying Jackson can't be a good CCC player, but Prem? Sceptical about that. Might be able to get McLean much cheaper than Jackson. Posh refused £2m from Wolves for Mclean in 2008, before he'd played in the CCC. Even though he's asked for a transfer they say they won't let him go for less tha £3m. No way we'd pay anywhere near that much for him or Jackson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 Hey guys, just got back to Canterbury after xmas break and had a quick word with my next door neighbour, an old boy who has a Gills season ticket and lives for league football. I asked him about SJ and he said this Jackson could be a top player. He has a lot of attributes, pace, touch, he reads the game well. His problem is immaturity, occasionally when he's through on goal he'll panic and blast it over when a top quality finisher like Beckford or your Connolly would calmly bury it. but he is only 22. i think he'll develop, but not here. im hapy to admit we're not the best team and a the moment he is a big fish, he needs to be surrounded by better players to learn the game from, and to give him chances. With Lambert to play off and Connolly to learn from, and players like lallana to grow with i think saints might be the best place for him. There was talk of Leeds and him replacing JB, but he is not ready to lead the line in the CCC if they go up. As a Gills fan i dont wanna lose him, but the boy wont get many better offers and it would be good for his development I was amazed at how much he knew about us! but still an interesting summary, i would love to see him here. The question is the price tag. If Lambert is worth 1mil at 27 after a season of 29 goals, can we say SJ has the potential to warrant the same amount? I hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 http://www.fansonline.net/gillingham/mb/view.php?id=90531 They seem to think a mil is fair for him, but will do better in another team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 He seems to have a knack for being in the right place at the right time when it comes to balls dropping in the box and running onto flicks which sounds like a dream partnership for ricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noggin Posted 15 January, 2010 Share Posted 15 January, 2010 I mean...he has scored 10 goals so far (i think) whoopee do... someone said he was good when we played gills this season, then another pointed out he did not even play.. I wonder how many people on here have seen him play for 3 games or so...my guess..about 2 You mention no one has seen Jackson play which is a valid point. However, how many games had people seen Lambert play before we signed him, or Papa Waigo before we signed him, or Hammond etc. The majority of players we sign are players who most fans would not have actually seen play and are going by reputation only. I doubt it will happen but at least give the bloke a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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