david in sweden Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 If we dont go up this year now, its gonna put unbelieveable pressure on Pardew and the squad next year to go up with ease and if we don't, Pards may be out of a job. can next years squad and management team cope with the pressure and expectation of comfortable league winners?? I don't this this is an issue. Messers Leibherr/ Cortese have said they have a 5 year plan. No-one expected that we would get promotion or a play-off place after starting with -10 points. The investment now is a big push to try and get into the top 6 by May. AP's job is safe - unless we slip back down to the bottom 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 If this happens, I will literally burst with excitement. He's been linked with the top CCC and one or two Premiership sides, I wouldn't be too sure that even we could persuade him to come here, irrespective of the money we throw at him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 It would be great if true, But doubt it is. I would love to see him in Red and White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 I don't this this is an issue. Messers Leibherr/ Cortese have said they have a 5 year plan. No-one expected that we would get promotion or a play-off place after starting with -10 points. The investment now is a big push to try and get into the top 6 by May. AP's job is safe - unless we slip back down to the bottom 6. With the money spent I'd say his job would be in danger if they don't finish in the top 8. The dip in form required for Saints not to finish in the top 8 would mean losing alot of games to very poor sides between now and May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Spending £1M on Jackson makes the Saganowski situation even stranger A striker with 30+ caps and goals for Poland should set this league alight I can only assume AP thinks he's crap, or his attutude / performance in training has been gash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Spending £1M on Jackson makes the Saganowski situation even stranger A striker with 30+ caps and goals for Poland should set this league alight I can only assume AP thinks he's crap, or his attutude / performance in training has been gash At the end of last season he said he didn`t want to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Is The People a newspaper? Are you a bit thick?? I think you just revealed who the thick one is :-D Whoosh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Spending £1M on Jackson makes the Saganowski situation even stranger A striker with 30+ caps and goals for Poland should set this league alight I can only assume AP thinks he's crap, or his attutude / performance in training has been gash Agree. Like him or not Saganowski easily has the talent to make a massive impact in this league. Something obviously isn't right, but its one of the big reservations I have about Pardew. Its his job to either get rid or get him motivated and playing. Good managers must often find themselves with under-motivated stars these days, part of their job is to get the most out of these players. I'd hate to know how much we're paying for Saga's wages right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Spending £1M on Jackson makes the Saganowski situation even stranger A striker with 30+ caps and goals for Poland should set this league alight I can only assume AP thinks he's crap, or his attutude / performance in training has been gash AP has failed to get the best out of Saga and Gillett both of which 'could' have been immense in L1. He clearly wants a clean slate and only those that fit into his plans get attention? I suspect Saga is low on confidence and failed to impress in training - Gillett on the other hand is a surprise, thought he did a good job in a very poor side last year and has played well for Donny this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 I think it is far more likely that Jackson would come to Saints rather than spuds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibMcdo Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Gillett and "immense" should never be used in the same sentence together, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Gillett and "immense" should never be used in the same sentence together, imo. Likewise Saganowski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 for a million pounds from Gillingham, according to the People. Was this in the hardcopy as I can't find mention on their website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 The pressure will be on AP because the owner will have backed AP's judgement in spending big in a mid-season transfer window rather than next summer. Witness two comments in yesterday's interview with Solent: 1. About "hanging his hat" ,or some such phrase, on Lambert and Fonte taking us all the way to the PL and 2. About stating publically for the first time that the play offs is now the aim this season. Don't you think the pressure was on as soon as he took the job on? He knew what the plan was and what is expected of him then. Why more so now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damers Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 I think it is a lot easier to handle the pressure when you are being given the right tools for the job as AP so obviously is. As he commented yesterday a lot of managers are very jealous of AP at the mo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Good competition with Connolly for the 2nd striker role if it is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Is The People a newspaper? Are you a bit thick?? Whats the size of somebodys waist gotta do with it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 I think it is a lot easier to handle the pressure when you are being given the right tools for the job as AP so obviously is. As he commented yesterday a lot of managers are very jealous of AP at the mo. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Would be v happy with this if true, much better than pericard and something different. Funnily enough I saw brian Howard in Oxford street today but as a local lad probably nothing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 I think it is a lot easier to handle the pressure when you are being given the right tools for the job as AP so obviously is. As he commented yesterday a lot of managers are very jealous of AP at the mo. Too right - if AP didnt get us promoted next season then im sure he would walk rather than get sacked. He's no fool, and knows that promotion next year is required. One or two additions to our squad and I could pick the team each week from Glasgow and still get us promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 lets say we do spend £3-4m this window..that would put huge pressure to go up this season IMO Spot on, also we would be wasting the cash on buying players who might not be able to make the step up to the CCC/Prem - Fonte perhaps excluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Spending £1M on Jackson makes the Saganowski situation even stranger A striker with 30+ caps and goals for Poland should set this league alight I can only assume AP thinks he's crap, or his attutude / performance in training has been gash Saga doesn't wanna be here. Don't forget, he was playing in the Champions League last season :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Jackson and Lambert would be the best strikeforce in the division. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Jackson and Lambert would be the best strikeforce in the division. Fact. David Connolly and Rickie Lambert is up there already tbh. Simeon Jackson/David Connolly/Papa Waigo/Rickie Lambert would be an awesome 4 strikers for most Championship club squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 fonte, stock, danns and jackson .... YES PLEASE What about Elliot Ward ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Would be an excellent signing, & give us some different options up front. Exiting time for us once again. As for the pressure that will come next season if we don't make the play-off's this year. Automatic will be expected, & probably for AP will need to be delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 I must be the only one who would actually be a bit dissapointed by signing Jackson, i really dont think he is that good, ive seen him play a fair bit as my mate is a Gillingham fan, other than a decent amount of pace which does give him the extra bit but his finishing is very wasteful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 It would not surprise me at all if we try and land Simeon Jackson as we are trying to build the best squad in league 1 that can then move on in the ccc.Jackson should be able to play at a higher level.Possibly Lee Barnard aswell could play in the ccc.I am not so sure about Pericard.Could do well as a back up in this league. How many teams have much money to spend at the moment(very few) Thats why we can take serious advantage this window Will be amazed if we do not add to our strikeforce this window and it would not surprise me if we bring in 2 as we only have Lambert and Connelly who are proven.Patterson is not ready and Saga obviously does not have a future with us.If one or both of Lambert and Connelly are injured then we are stuffed. It would not surprise me if we bring in upto 5 more players this window as we are obviously going for it 2nd half of this season.If our 2nd half season form is better than the 1st and we drew a lot of games then I think we will make the play offs.(Without the -10 we would be in a play off position although Swindon would have a couple of games in hand. At the right price lets sign Ward,Stock,Danns,Jackson & Barnard. With all those we would have some team and back up!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 I must be the only one who would actually be a bit dissapointed by signing Jackson, i really dont think he is that good, ive seen him play a fair bit as my mate is a Gillingham fan, other than a decent amount of pace which does give him the extra bit but his finishing is very wasteful! I've not seen him play (despite thinking I had) and the youtube video of his goals leaves me feeling a little flat. Quite a few pens (none of which go in the corner) and a lot of two yard tap ins against league 2 sides. He does look very pacey though and there are one or two goals where he shows great positonal play and determinism. What's his all round game like? First touch, work rate, movement etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Jackson and Lambert would be the best strikeforce in the division. Fact. I don't think it is quite as straightforward as to state they "would be... "fact". Certainly in theory they should work well together and seem a perfect combination.However I also remember when Channon and Osgood were the best strike force in the old second division ( "fact") and should have had no difficulty in ripping that division to shreds.Unfortunately they didn't bond as quickly or as well as we had hoped,or the media expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 I think Barnard would be a better option than Jackson, and probably about £500k cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadian Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 I think Barnard would be a better option than Jackson, and probably about £500k cheaper. Not seen Jackson play but would be very disappointed if we signed Barnard, he really is not very good. As an exiled Saint living in Essex I pop along to Southend now and then on freebies, and Barnard is not very good at all. Lambert and Connolly both a lot better. No pace and no height. If Jackson has pace then I can see where AP wants him to fit in and play off of Lambert. Connolly as an alternative option to bring on later in the game. I do know that Saints are bidding on several players at the moment and don't be surprised to see at least another 2 new faces before the end of the transfer window, possibly more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massimo Osti Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 No. Very intelligent. You hide it well then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 lets say we do spend £3-4m this window..that would put huge pressure to go up this season IMO You could find a downside to every situation Delldays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadian Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 lets say we do spend £3-4m this window..that would put huge pressure to go up this season IMO Not so sure. I'm guessing that our owner and chairman are happy with how things are going so far this season and willing to invest now in order to: a) give us a chance of going for play offs this season b) start building a team/squad that is going to be in place and know each other ready for automatic promotion push if we don't go up Successful sides are built not bought and so far it looks like we are trying to build, not just buy the best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Too right - if AP didnt get us promoted next season then im sure he would walk rather than get sacked. He's no fool, and knows that promotion next year is required. One or two additions to our squad and I could pick the team each week from Glasgow and still get us promoted. Fancy them spending all that money on Pardew when they could have had you ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Not so sure. I'm guessing that our owner and chairman are happy with how things are going so far this season and willing to invest now in order to: a) give us a chance of going for play offs this season b) start building a team/squad that is going to be in place and know each other ready for automatic promotion push if we don't go up Successful sides are built not bought and so far it looks like we are trying to build, not just buy the best players. how do you say that hammond lambert fonte waigo (from serie A) connolly I would say pards in intent on bringing the best players possible to sms with an aim to get out of this league asap...I dont blame him.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 can he play with pericard though? It seems journo's have noticed us spending a few quid and so will link us with l1's best players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcadian Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 how do you say that hammond lambert fonte waigo (from serie A) connolly I would say pards in intent on bringing the best players possible to sms with an aim to get out of this league asap...I dont blame him.. Sorry, to clarify, I don't think there is pressure from above for AP to get us promoted this season...if we do it is a bonus. I believe that the blueprint involves building the squad over the course of this season, get them playing well together and then mounting a real push next season. If things go even better and we do go up this year, we then also already have a pretty solid CCC squad. For the first time in a long time it feels like the men in charge actually have set the club goals and contingency plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Sorry, to clarify, I don't think there is pressure from above for AP to get us promoted this season...if we do it is a bonus. I believe that the blueprint involves building the squad over the course of this season, get them playing well together and then mounting a real push next season. If things go even better and we do go up this year, we then also already have a pretty solid CCC squad. For the first time in a long time it feels like the men in charge actually have set the club goals and contingency plans. ahh...got you...yes, seems that is the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 (edited) Successful sides are built not boughtTell Harry Redknapp that! Edited 10 January, 2010 by kpturner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Would be v happy with this if true, much better than pericard and something different. Funnily enough I saw brian Howard in Oxford street today but as a local lad probably nothing! Absolutely nothing, he earns too much at Reading. He has just moved into a new house at Bartley with his girl friend who comes from Totton. He shares transport with Raziak and commutes daily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 personally, I have always felt that we should get into the playoffs..but I get told off for saying this sort of stuff as the resident experts tell me other wise I think as soon as we got taken over our targets should have been the play offs but I dont think anyone should be too put out if we dont make it this year. Realistic target from takeover should IMO be in the CCC by the end of next season. Any earlier is prefered but to be considered a bonus. The pressure would definately be high should we not make it this year as next year jobs would surley be on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Pressure to go up? I don't think a few more signings will make any difference. The minute we were taken over by a bloke with some wedge the pressure was on. All the mamagement can do it to build a structure that will make it possible. Hard to make it probable overnight as Leeds found. The will is there. The cash is there. But it is down to what happens on the pitch and as teams who have spent money on trying to buy instant success find, spending money guarantees nothing. I just hope that Pardew doesn't get the Burley treatment. Setting your sights for the play offs rather than instant promotion is sensible as you need to mnage people's expectations. Burley achieved what he set up to do but has never been fogiven for not taking us up that season. If pardew gets us to the play offs with -10 that will be no mean feat but if we don't succeed this season he should be given more time. We need to start keeping good people at this club and Pardew is a decent manager. Agreed. It would be very disappointing not to go up this season and we will lose good players as a result. But you have to judge Pardew on a full season not a season with no pre-season and a deficit of -10... That said, I think we will go up this season with something to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 you may be right LGTC the next time we face huddersfield, they may be managerless...could they then decline..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 you may be right LGTC the next time we face huddersfield, they may be managerless...could they then decline..? What's happening there DD?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 What's happening there DD?? just been on SSN, the Lee Clarke has emerged as odds on fav to take the burnley job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Causer Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Or first game manager bounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 10 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Was this in the hardcopy as I can't find mention on their website? Yes and it also mentions that the Coventry centre half is being lined up as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Yes and it also mentions that the Coventry centre half is being lined up as well. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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