"The Cove"

[Wiltshire Saint]

I think the Japanese should only be allowed to kill the same animals that we kill. Anything different is just them showing off and trying to be all different. All animals should be tested for intelligence and any of them not making the grade should be killed for food and rugs etc, with the most stupid animals being fair game when it comes to hunting. Anyone caught eating cute animals should face some kind of punishment, administered by the UN. Animals with a high stature should be saved from any sort of bad stuff but the UN should also keep a close eye on dolphins as with their incredible intelligence they may one day attempt a take over.

[Verbal]

I think the Japanese should only be allowed to kill the same animals that we kill. Anything different is just them showing off and trying to be all different. All animals should be tested for intelligence and any of them not making the grade should be killed for food and rugs etc, with the most stupid animals being fair game when it comes to hunting. Anyone caught eating cute animals should face some kind of punishment, administered by the UN. Animals with a high stature should be saved from any sort of bad stuff but the UN should also keep a close eye on dolphins as with their incredible intelligence they may one day attempt a take over.

 

Food and rugs from stupid animals? I have higher standards than you, evidently.

[sadoldgit]

you missed, "to me", from the end of your final sentence.

 

Too a lot of people judging by the reaction to the film.

[sadoldgit]

I agree, but it's completely arbitrary and hypocritical when you support equivalent practices.

 

Sorry I don't get this? What has it got to do with anything else if we compalin about the massacre of dolphins and whales?

 

If other want to complain about the production of veal or if they just don't like the Japanese those are separate.

 

To drag in so called hypocrocay or Xenophabia detracts from the actual point.

 

No one here is saying the at the production of veal is okay. No one here is having ago at the Japanese because they don't like Japanese.

 

If we were killing dolphins and whales and putting them on the menu then yes, you would have a point.

 

They are breaking International law. They are doing something that a great many find abhorent. That is what the original post was about.

[benjii]

Sorry I don't get this? What has it got to do with anything else if we compalin about the massacre of dolphins and whales?

 

If other want to complain about the production of veal or if they just don't like the Japanese those are separate.

 

To drag in so called hypocrocay or Xenophabia detracts from the actual point.

 

No one here is saying the at the production of veal is okay. No one here is having ago at the Japanese because they don't like Japanese.

 

If we were killing dolphins and whales and putting them on the menu then yes, you would have a point.

 

They are breaking International law. They are doing something that a great many find abhorent. That is what the original post was about.

 

Law - are they?

 

Abhorent - I find ignorant nonsense abhorrent but I support your right to write it on here.

 

Wiltshire Saint has summed up your position in a nutshell.

[hamster]

I'm fed up with this "it's OK because it's a different culture" nonsense, it's the same thing some people say when someone is stoned to death for committing adultery in some Muslim **** hole or someone with possible mental problems is shot in China for selling drugs.

 

Sometimes if you think things are wrong you should just stand up and say so. Dolphins are intelligent, self-aware mammals with bonded social interactions, I think the Japanese are disgusting for letting this continue, whatever their history or culture.

 

 

And there we have it.

 

What I Think and what you think are of no real consequence, unless of course you are going to do something about it. I have in my time tried to 'do something about it' regarding certain causes, all to no avail I am sorry to say.

 

I am actually of the opinion that with certain types of persona 'doing something about (something)' is a phase that they go through. I went through a phase of it and I firmly believe that I am wiser for it. I applaud anyone 'doing soemthing about it', but another thing that I have learnt is that when you eventually realise what you are up against it can be extremely de-moralising (pun not intended).

 

It does not mean that peopel do not care about dolphins, it may just mean that people care more about something else.

 

After reading through this thread today i almost didn't have any roast pork, seriously. then I saw a little bit of crackling lying all by itself and before I knew it, it was in my mouth and I was piling more onto my plate. That is meat from a dirty filthy pig that some cultures would find unpalatable, and quite disgusting, I think it may be Jewish people but i'm not that well informed, suffice to say, I also would not want my foreskin chopped off just because my Mum and dad thought it would help me get into heaven, that is what I think.

[St Landrew]

More good points, hamster. Done in a amusing and entertaining way too. Ever thought of writing for a living..?

 

Just happened to be watching a Hugh Fearnley-Whittingstall - River Cottage programme this evening. This evening he has been introducing people who have spent a lifetime of microwaving everything, and also being completely out of touch with what they eat. Yes, he's done this sort of thing before, when highlighting the way barn chickens are intensively reared, and the appalling conditions they have to grow in for 39 days

 

This evening he took his out-of-touchers and took them through the process of rearing meat, from field to plate, through the killing process. Some couldn't take it, but I was pleased to see most could, even though it was harrowing for them. They said they appreciated what it took, and how they were better in touch with what they ate. I especially liked the comment from one person who said that they would fully respect the animal by always doing the best they could with it come cooking time. I have always stood by that idea myself. I also make sure I never waste anything that I buy, when purchasing meat.

 

Next week - take away junkies meet real food.

[norwaysaint]

I am intelligent enough to realise that the Japanses staple diet is not whale and dolphin!

 

What animal do we need to eat? The same animals that we have been breeding for eating for hundreds of years I guess.

 

I guess that you a relatively intelligent person and can figure out that certain animals are breed/cultivated for food and others are not. In the later category I would place whales and dolphins. With it yet?

 

If the whales and dolphins became extinct what would the Japanese do then? Erm, carry on eating what most of them currently eat at the moment I guess.

 

Are reindeer and moose hunted to near extinction? Tell me, what happended to the buffalo when the white man moved to America? The Native American's used what they needed and no more.

 

Now we have factory ship that hoover up the seas resources at a rate that is no longer sustanable. Cod used to be a very cheap food source. It is much more expensive now because of over fishing.

 

But the point remains, there is no need to kill these animals as a food source, so why do it. Even worse if dolphins are being butchered to protect tuna stocks.

 

Both of these posts utterly ignore the fact that the bottlenose dolphins being discussed aren't in the least endangered.

 

The points about it not being a staple diet are ridiculous. If we are only allowed to eat animals that are "staple diet", what does that leave? People survive without eating meat at all. surely that means all farming and butchering of animals, cows, lambs, pigs, fish, chickens etc, is unnecessary.

 

Bred and cultivated? Do you only eat fish from fish farms? If it's only OK to eat creatures bred for it that rules out all fish caught in the sea.

[Ponty]

Cod are more endangered than dolphins.

[Thedelldays]

Cod are more endangered than dolphins.

but they are not as cute, nor balance beach balls on their snouts

[hamster]

nice one StL, I was told at school that I would never be a writer so I became a fighter (true story), and have a proud record of only 1 defeat in my whole fighting career.

 

And fwiw I have always found the sword to be far mightier than the humble pen.

 

Anyway, I was wondering what is the yuckiest thing people have ever eaten?

 

I have eaten liver, kidney, haggis and probably the worst of all sausages. When I worked for a meat processing firm I was told that butchers don't eat other butchers sausages as they do not know what is in them and they don't eat their own sausages because they do know what is in them.

 

Anyone had tripe?

[Verbal]

nice one StL, I was told at school that I would never be a writer so I became a fighter (true story), and have a proud record of only 1 defeat in my whole fighting career.

 

And fwiw I have always found the sword to be far mightier than the humble pen.

 

Anyway, I was wondering what is the yuckiest thing people have ever eaten?

 

I have eaten liver, kidney, haggis and probably the worst of all sausages. When I worked for a meat processing firm I was told that butchers don't eat other butchers sausages as they do not know what is in them and they don't eat their own sausages because they do know what is in them.

 

Anyone had tripe?

 

Not had tripe. No food invented by the Scots could possibly be good for you. In Madagascar, I've been offered fried maggots served with live soft shell crabs that are cooked in front of you and then eaten whole. Pretty good!

 

One of the least yucky things I've eaten, I'm sorry to say, is whale. It was served raw, dipped in a Korean sauce and then placed on a sizzler thingy for a few seconds. Tasted like the tenderest beef you could imagine.