Whitey Grandad Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 A CRB will only reveal previous offences and would not stop a first-time offender, and I don't believe it would have done anything to prevent the abuse that has been revealed in the catholic Church in Ireland. Children are most at risk from those whom they know and trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 A CRB will only reveal previous offences and would not stop a first-time offender, and I don't believe it would have done anything to prevent the abuse that has been revealed in the catholic Church in Ireland. Children are most at risk from those whom they know and trust. So it will do some good then. As I said, nobody here thinks it full proof, but you tried to state it will do nothing to improve safety. What's your alternative? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Trubble Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 We can only cover official positions. Unfortunately there are a few million parents out there who do not provide the loving protective environment that we would all like to see. Absolutely spot on. My heart bleeds for some of the kids I see. Some parent/s are a disgrace to humanity and the way they are raised is just heartbreaking. Some live in squalor and it does make you cynical and mistrusting. I have often thought to myself that certain kids live in a fertile environment for abuse, not necessarily physical - from parents/carers. I realise that I can't justify my thinking as it's wrong, but I do often wonder what goes on behind closed doors with some families, sometimes you just get that gut instinct from the way a kid behaves and they way his parents/carers act towards others. It's a warped logic I know but I guess that's why good teachers/teaching staff will spot the signs of any abuse and hopefully report it to the schools designated senior person and deal with it. I certainly wouldn't want to be a social worker, I know they get berated a lot but they are always under so much pressure to act, they fall into the damned if they do, damned if they don't category for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 So it will do some good then. As I said, nobody here thinks it full proof, but you tried to state it will do nothing to improve safety. What's your alternative? Travelling back in time to a mythical golden age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 10 January, 2010 Share Posted 10 January, 2010 Travelling back in time to a mythical golden age. Sounds exciting, but a little bit Dr Who for my liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Where as you simply advocate inaction. I would suggest you go and look at what a full disclosure, along with the safeguarding agency, covers. Also look at why it was introduced. Nothing is foolproof but I'd sooner we tried than hark back to some mythical golden time when the establishment considered kids fair game. Where have I ever said that? A CRB check alone will not make a significant difference to child safety, but there is a danger in assuming that it is sufficient to ensure it. To return to the original question, would children better off in school at the moment, or out playing in the snow or on the ponds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Travelling back in time to a mythical golden age. Hardly 'mythical'. Many people have experienced it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 It is funny how we have lost this common sense approach! A mate works for a bank and could not make it in to work. He was told to report to the branch 5 minutes walk away. It is funny how the banks get slated for many things but our schools and other businesses could learn a lot from adopting this 'almost lost' common sense approach! Lol! Yes that IS funny! LOL!!!!11!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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