Thedelldays Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Which do you prefer PDC for me. The BDO has some right creatures in it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 No contest for me. PDC wins on all aspects. In fact , the only area that the BDO wins on, is that Frimley Green is nearer my home than Ally Pally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 The real question now is how many years before darts reunifies? It can't be too far off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 The real question now is how many years before darts reunifies? It can't be too far off. Or the BDO just fizzles out to nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 The BDO won't fizzle out to nothing as it is "the guardian" of the game at "grass roots" levels. Even Barry Hearn admits he needs the BDO as he needs county darts to produce players that are good enough to move across to the PDC. Eventually it will come back together as the BDO World Championship will be utterly worthless, and the BDO won't just be able to run a county and international game without any major tournaments. Having said that, it would be a shame to lose the history of "The Lakeside" from darts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 Which do you prefer PDC for me. The BDO has some right creatures in it Oh PDC definitely, The two codes are opposites of each other. The PDC caters for the elite and does very little for the up and coming darts players (although they are doing something about it after recently opening up one of many darts academies in Stockport), whereas the BDO has an excellent grass roots system but treats it's best players with utter contempt. Eric Bristow openly said the head of the BDO Olly Croft, tried to destroy the careers of himself, Phil Taylor, Dennis Priestley, and the 13 others who broke away in the early 90s. I really hope Hearn does buy the BDO out although I can't see it happening until Croft is in his coffin. The BDO is so outdated and amateurish on the BBC now it's an embarrassment and only a few days ago, one of the BDO players came on to the stage for his first round match almost certainly drunk. (There's a link on the other darts thread if you wanna see it) All the BDO now is now is a training academy where the best players graduate to the PDC. The BBC have a contract to broadcast the BDO 'World' Championship until 2013 and I can see the beeb having serious discussions on renewing their contract after that, especially when Barry Hearn has just been voted on to the World Snooker board and has been given a foothold in the BBC. . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 Having said that, it would be a shame to lose the history of "The Lakeside" from darts. Wouldn't be surprised to see a merged world championships to be based at Lakeside TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 Wouldn't be surprised to see a merged world championships to be based at Lakeside TBH. I would, I imagine they can get 10 times more people into Alexandra Palace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 I would, I imagine they can get 10 times more people into Alexandra Palace +1. Not a chance that a unified World Championship would be held there. Perhaps the Lakeside tournament would be a "Amateur World Championship" for those not competing on the main Pro Tour, or somesuch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 +1. Not a chance that a unified World Championship would be held there. Perhaps the Lakeside tournament would be a "Amateur World Championship" for those not competing on the main Pro Tour, or somesuch? If the buy out happened my guess is they'd turn it into a tournament where they'd have the top 16 players from the PDC order of merit drawn against the top 16 players who don't play on the professional tour (amateur rankings or something similar) I'd have thought Hearn would have wanted familiar Lakeside faces and the best of the PDC there. (although both Ted Hankey and Martin Adams would quit darts if that happened i expect) It's all academic as any attempt from Hearn to buy out the BDO will be met with an "over my dead body" response from Olly Croft. I think what's more likely is that now Hearn has a foot in the door of the BBC, being on the world snooker board, he'll try and get a couple of PDC tournaments on the BBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLYMPIC Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 The BDO championship just looks like the poor relation to the PDC now,when you watch it on telly it looks like a pikey day out at the Lakeside i expect they still serve chicken in a basket there. Also the players seem to have more cheap gold on display than Elizabeth Duke at Argos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 what is the difference exactly.........excuse my ignorance but it just seems to crappy non-famous people play BDO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 what is the difference exactly.........excuse my ignorance but it just seems to crappy non-famous people play BDO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split_in_darts BDO is on the BBC, PDC is on Sky and ITV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 Has anyone seen any of the BDO interactive coverage after some of the games? On one occasion Martin Fitzmaurice (the fat bloke who says "Let's Play Darts!!!) was in the middle of a borderline racist anti-Welsh joke, when he was hurriedly turned down by a BBC sound engineer. Tonight after the Waites-Henderson match he said "It's time for the raffle, the winners can collect their prizes at reception". My wife burst out laughing and said they'll be doing bingo next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 Has anyone seen any of the BDO interactive coverage after some of the games? On one occasion Martin Fitzmaurice (the fat bloke who says "Let's Play Darts!!!) was in the middle of a borderline racist anti-Welsh joke, when he was hurriedly turned down by a BBC sound engineer. Tonight after the Waites-Henderson match he said "It's time for the raffle, the winners can collect their prizes at reception". My wife burst out laughing and said they'll be doing bingo next! I saw that! Bloody funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 this debate might be irrelevant soon. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/darts/8451655.stm It appears after Croft and Fitzmaurice chucked the PDC's offer straight into the bin, the BDO county leagues have rebelled to a degree and shouted the BDO hierachy down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 21 February, 2010 Share Posted 21 February, 2010 http://www.pdc.tv/page/NewsdeskDetail/0,,10180~1968001,00.html All kicking off now. Hearn adding international and women's competition to the PDC, and offering the Lakeside semi-finalists a card for the PDC Pro Tour. He's also rewarding the 8 counties who backed talks with a place at the UK Open. Things are going to come to a head pretty soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 21 February, 2010 Share Posted 21 February, 2010 Oh PDC definitely, The two codes are opposites of each other. The PDC caters for the elite and does very little for the up and coming darts players (although they are doing something about it after recently opening up one of many darts academies in Stockport), whereas the BDO has an excellent grass roots system but treats it's best players with utter contempt. Eric Bristow openly said the head of the BDO Olly Croft, tried to destroy the careers of himself, Phil Taylor, Dennis Priestley, and the 13 others who broke away in the early 90s. I really hope Hearn does buy the BDO out although I can't see it happening until Croft is in his coffin. The BDO is so outdated and amateurish on the BBC now it's an embarrassment and only a few days ago, one of the BDO players came on to the stage for his first round match almost certainly drunk. (There's a link on the other darts thread if you wanna see it) All the BDO now is now is a training academy where the best players graduate to the PDC. The BBC have a contract to broadcast the BDO 'World' Championship until 2013 and I can see the beeb having serious discussions on renewing their contract after that, especially when Barry Hearn has just been voted on to the World Snooker board and has been given a foothold in the BBC. . . . . I think the BBC rather revel in the grimey pub atmosphere of the BDO actually. What with employing Bobby George to jangle his jewellery and conducting interviews round what looks like a pub table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 26 February, 2010 Share Posted 26 February, 2010 http://www.pdc.tv/page/NewsdeskDetail/0,,10180~1968001,00.html All kicking off now. Hearn adding international and women's competition to the PDC, and offering the Lakeside semi-finalists a card for the PDC Pro Tour. He's also rewarding the 8 counties who backed talks with a place at the UK Open. Things are going to come to a head pretty soon! Hearn's going in for the kill so it seems. I'm interested to know where the PDC are gonna get the women from for their women's world championship. I'm assuming they want all the BDO women competing and it's a very big carrot being dangled for Trina Gulliver et al. to play in it, get given a PDC Pro Tour card etc.etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunrise Posted 26 February, 2010 Share Posted 26 February, 2010 The fun and games has just begun, I think Hearn is going to try and destroy the BDO from the inside, so eventually the BDO management will go to Hearn with the begging bowl. The discontent has already started with 8 counties voting in favour of the deal and I suspect Hampshire is one of those. As for the others, I have no idea. An interesting programme to watch is "Blood on the carpet: the split in Darts" which is about the original split in 1994(or was it 1995?), you should be able to find it on youtube. Watching it shows what Olly Croft is like - he did well to get Darts organised in the first place, but when Darts when got a hammering with comedy sketches and the like, he and the BDO management didn't have a clue what to do. They did little to reverse the loss of coverage on ITV and BBC with the Embassy(now the Lakeside Championship) the only event remaining. When this happened, he should've stepped aside or at least employed media savvy people to try and reverse the trend but no, he kept his head in the sand. The BDO is his baby and whilst he is still alive, my personal opinion is that there will not be a unification. As for the coverage of Darts on the TV now, the BBC coverage seems a bit antiquated and it looks like they're still using the same stage set from the 80's. I much prefer the ITV coverage as it seems more slicker and well presented, the addition of Chris Mason(like him or hate him) is welcome as he does know his stuff. As for the Sky coverage of darts, I still prefer the ITV coverage for 1 reason - Sid Waddell. That man does my nut in with his referrals to 'understackers', 'overstackers' and his constant arse licking of Phil Taylor. No denying that Taylor is the greatest ever player in the sport but does Waddell have to keep going on about him, especially in matches that Taylor isn't even playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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