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Jose Fonte 1.5m rumour

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Joensuu

Joensuu

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Palace need to sell, so the price is determined almost entirely by the number of rival bidders.

 

I'm sure that Palace, Watford, Pompey etc will all be bombarded by opportunistic bids on the last day of the window...

istanbul

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I personally hate trouncing through all the HCDAJFU source-less tripe just to get to links like this.

 

I find another about another player, i'll post it again. Cheers.

 

good - thanks

CWD

CWD

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1.5 mil is A LOT of money. esp for a defender. Anyone know anything about him? (que barrage of wikipedia links ;))

Johnny Bognor

Johnny Bognor

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1.5 mil is A LOT of money. esp for a defender. Anyone know anything about him? (que barrage of wikipedia links ;))

 

 

Sit next to a Palace fan at work, he is one of their better players according to him.

vince

vince

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Mate of mine at work is a Palace ST holder - he said this about him:

 

"Yeah, I like him. Got him from Benfica a few years ago and he's pretty reliable. Scores the odd goal as well. Makes the odd blooper from time to time as does anyone at this level. Would be a good buy for any Championship or L1 side but I think we would take that sort of money for him."

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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We are Man City of League 1

the way we are throwing money around in the global down turn and watching clubs like stockport, notts county and pompey face financial ruin..is disgusting

 

I blame the premier league...dunno why, it must be their fault

teamsaint

teamsaint

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the way we are throwing money around in the global down turn and watching clubs like stockport, notts county and pompey face financial ruin..is disgusting

 

I blame the premier league...dunno why, it must be their fault

 

I think you will find that UEFA and FIFA are also at fault !!

The Kraken

The Kraken

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£1.5M sounds like an awful lot of money to pay for an average Championship defender.

 

He's obviously a good player; my mate is a Palace fan and says he's been one of their better players in the last few years and would be gutted to see him go for less than a million. But to me it seems like a huge sum of money.

 

Still, in Pards we trust...

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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if we spend this sort of money...isnt it a bit ironic laughing at pompey at their financial plight...there is no way it is the norm for league 1 clubs to spend millions...regardless of what you receive for player sales....

Smirking_Saint

Smirking_Saint

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If this happens it will be a real show of intent, even if we actually go through with the bid and lose out to a champ side.

 

I however, cannot see this coming off, but as always i live in hope.

 

Ward,Fonte,barnard,donnelley,beckford,jancker.

 

Should be a good january

farawaysaint

farawaysaint

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if we spend this sort of money...isnt it a bit ironic laughing at pompey at their financial plight...there is no way it is the norm for league 1 clubs to spend millions...regardless of what you receive for player sales....

 

Yes it's ironic but hopefully we're not being financially mismanaged.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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Yes it's ironic but hopefully we're not being financially mismanaged.

the only we can be spending this sort of money (on top of what we have) is being in the pocket of one person.....

 

anyway..would be amazed if a decent CCC worth £1.5m would drop down a division

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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if we spend this sort of money...isnt it a bit ironic laughing at pompey at their financial plight...there is no way it is the norm for league 1 clubs to spend millions...regardless of what you receive for player sales....

 

With no debts Delldays this fee could probably be paid from matchday revenue alone. :D

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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With no debts Delldays this fee could probably be paid from matchday revenue alone. :D

really..?

 

I would be interested to know what our matchday income is over a year..

 

and if that would cover the costs of the (high) wages, player purchases etc..

 

I would be amazed if it covered spending another £1.5m-£2m in jan...

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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really..?

 

I would be interested to know what our matchday income is over a year..

 

and if that would cover the costs of the (high) wages, player purchases etc..

 

I would be amazed if it covered spending another £1.5m-£2m in jan...

 

Take into account prize money from the cups as well.

SFKA South Woodford

SFKA South Woodford

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If this happens it will be a real show of intent, even if we actually go through with the bid and lose out to a champ side.

 

I however, cannot see this coming off, but as always i live in hope.

 

Ward,Fonte,barnard,donnelley,beckford,jancker.

 

Should be a good january

 

Jancker signed for a second division team in Germany yesterday, so I think we can safely count him out now.

 

It was on the skysports infobar last night.

Glasgow_Saint

Glasgow_Saint

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the way we are throwing money around in the global down turn and watching clubs like stockport, notts county and pompey face financial ruin..is disgusting

 

I blame the premier league...dunno why, it must be their fault

 

We are trying to 'BUY' the JPT cup.

 

It's sick

RonManager

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I would say a bid of this magnitude would be seen as an investment in the future in that the club would see him as a player to be with us all the way back to the top flight. If so, then the price is relatively low, regardless of the league we find ourselves in at the moment.

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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£400,000 every home game based on the tickets being an average of £20 each and the attendance being 20,000. Now if you disagree then you're entitled to that, but I really don't think our wage bill is THAT high.

So far then, over all our home games we have made £5,800,000 (including the extra 10,000 for Exeter, and NOT including any of the cup games).

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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I would say a bid of this magnitude would be seen as an investment in the future in that the club would see him as a player to be with us all the way back to the top flight. If so, then the price is relatively low, regardless of the league we find ourselves in at the moment.

that could be said about any player you "throw" money at..

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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anyway....just hope one day we dont get bitten in the arse again financially

 

Sorry, but I don't believe for a second that our wages have cost us £5.8 million so far this season.

We're STILL living within our means - which is incredible, really.

Thedelldays

Thedelldays

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Sorry, but I don't believe for a second that our wages have cost us £5.8 million so far this season.

We're STILL living within our means - which is incredible, really.

probably..be we do have a large squad..we trebbled lamberts wages..no doubt hammed, lallana, kelvin, saga and thomas are on a high wage..then the other players, jaidi, connolly...

 

I bet papa is one of the leagues best earners...

 

then you have the coaching staff, the main 3 will earn a fortune..

 

even so, you are probably right..just dont think I could take it if saints were led down financial ruin again

Faz

Faz

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£400,000 every home game based on the tickets being an average of £20 each and the attendance being 20,000. Now if you disagree then you're entitled to that, but I really don't think our wage bill is THAT high.

So far then, over all our home games we have made £5,800,000 (including the extra 10,000 for Exeter, and NOT including any of the cup games).

 

For the sake of arguement an average player wage of £4k pw x 20 players = £4m. Add another £3m for running costs. I'd say we're doing ok without before any transfer budget agreed by Herr Liebherr.

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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We DOUBLED Lamberts wages. Just to be pedantic ;)

And I agree, but the figure I got just then was lower than the actual figure would be - if we assume on average everyone spends £5 at St Marys on a match day, that's another million quid.

RonManager

RonManager

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probably..be we do have a large squad..we trebbled lamberts wages..no doubt hammed, lallana, kelvin, saga and thomas are on a high wage..then the other players, jaidi, connolly...

 

I bet papa is one of the leagues best earners...

 

then you have the coaching staff, the main 3 will earn a fortune..

 

even so, you are probably right..just dont think I could take it if saints were led down financial ruin again

 

Which goes back to my point that if we have the financial ability to buy a player now who is being touted as becoming a top pro in the not too distant future, then we will be in the position to make a healthy profit on him, should we so wish.

 

I know it's if's and but's, but that's what investment is - a calculted risk. The statement of intent by ML/NC when they took over was clear. I guess we have to trust them.

Wadge

Wadge

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We DOUBLED Lamberts wages. Just to be pedantic ;)

And I agree, but the figure I got just then was lower than the actual figure would be - if we assume on average everyone spends £5 at St Marys on a match day, that's another million quid.

 

20,000 average X £5 = 1 million????

 

Think you need to recalculate that one.

benjii

benjii

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if we spend this sort of money...isnt it a bit ironic laughing at pompey at their financial plight...there is no way it is the norm for league 1 clubs to spend millions...regardless of what you receive for player sales....

 

Well, Pompey are certainly a cautionary tale for us to bear in mind.

 

I think there is a qualitative difference though. Firstly, we are not buying these players on debt. It's pure and simple, good old fashioned benefaction from Markus.

 

Secondly, we have some assets above and beyond a squad of players.

 

Thirdly, our ownership structure is very simple.

Smirking_Saint

Smirking_Saint

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We don't know for sure it is all liebherr's spending money though ??

 

Surely he can tie the transfers into the company ?? Using southampton FC's capital and so if he left we would perhaps have to replace his spent cash ??

 

Personally, i don't think this is the case but you never know

benjii

benjii

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We don't know for sure it is all liebherr's spending money though ??

 

Surely he can tie the transfers into the company ?? Using southampton FC's capital and so if he left we would perhaps have to replace his spent cash ??

 

Personally, i don't think this is the case but you never know

 

Cortese has repeatedly said they have not taken on any debt. Now, I don't see how we can afford, on League One income, to sign Lambert for £1m, Jaidi's wages, Connolly's wages, KD's wages etc... in the long-term.

 

I'm sure we're being well managed but I expect that when the rope gets tight, Markus gives it some slack!

david in sweden

david in sweden

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if we spend this sort of money...isnt it a bit ironic laughing at pompey at their financial plight...there is no way it is the norm for league 1 clubs to spend millions...regardless of what you receive for player sales....

 

Well the dell days,

like house prices everythings going up, and to be fair I always wondered how L2 / Conference sides managed to survive on 2,000 crowds. If they can't balance the books they shouldn't be in the league.

We are here by default. The whole idea of the -10, and last years bankruptcy are a bad dream. If you've been around as long as your name suggests you'll recall that the sort of money we've spent in the past (even at CCC level) makes this seasons spending look like "tea-money" compared to then.

 

The real secret is surely we have a playing staff on " more reasonable " salaries rather than some of the prev. "stars" who collected every week and never played on a regular basis. There are far more players on the market now and many of them are "free/Bosman" types. Half of the present squad didn't cost any fee at all, so we can afford to splash out on good players sometimes.

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Window Cleaner

Window Cleaner

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£1.5M sounds like an awful lot of money to pay for an average Championship defender.

 

He's obviously a good player; my mate is a Palace fan and says he's been one of their better players in the last few years and would be gutted to see him go for less than a million. But to me it seems like a huge sum of money.

 

Still, in Pards we trust...

 

 

 

Don't worry we won't be spending 1.5 million on any single player this time round.

It's just agent talk.

Saints foreva

Saints foreva

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the way we are throwing money around in the global down turn and watching clubs like stockport, notts county and pompey face financial ruin..is disgusting

 

I blame the premier league...dunno why, it must be their fault

 

Isn't that the team that made Sol Campbell the highest paid player in The Football League for around 2 weeks? :rolleyes:

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