david in sweden Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 (edited) Papa ...is very quick as is Antonio.....see them in training/sprints. Unfortunately Holmes is regularly overtaken bt the groundsman pushing the lawn mower. Papa ought to start his runs 2 yards deeper..and he wouldn't be offside so much. If he's half as fast as everyone claims then it won't matter, he'll still get into the box first. (Johnny Sydenham was always willing to draw the defender a bit, punt the ball past him ..and he WAS off like lightening !) Maybe Holmes isn't so fast but can the groundsman pass and centre as well as Holmes.? Seems to me that (AP) comments suggested he was MOM for Saints on Saturday. As this thread is about Barnard, then he's the sort of extra frontman we need to give more punch up front. Leeds may look good in the league but is Barnard willing to move up there?. Southern-born lads aren't always happy to move north. Edited 20 January, 2010 by david in sweden
del boy Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 I say we keep the groundsman on the bench until the last 5 mins. Against tired legs he should be able to scythe his way into the box and apply the coup-de-grasse
ottery st mary Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 I say we keep the groundsman on the bench until the last 5 mins. Against tired legs he should be able to scythe his way into the box and apply the coup-de-grasse He has a good motor..I say get him on a bit earlier.
Gambol2K9 Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 I noticed that on one of the Southend fan-sites they are encouraging people to rig the Daily Echo poll and vote for Lisbie over Barnard as the player Saints fans would prefer to sign. I think it's gonna take more than a local paper poll to keep hold of him!
OLYMPIC Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 I see that the Daily Mail said Southend had excepted a bid of £250k from Leeds last night for Barnard.
channonball Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 I really hope this happens. I think we are short of a central midfielder and a striker (only because Conolley is injured so often) from being a complete team for this division!
Saint_clark Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 I really hope this happens. I think we are short of a central midfielder and a striker (only because Conolley is injured so often) from being a complete team for this division! Connolly has had ONE injury since he signed for us.
Scudamore Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Connolly has had ONE injury since he signed for us. I think he may be referring to the fact that he can only play one game a week and we have to wrap him in cotton wool between games
Colinjb Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Hmmmm, the Holy Gospel states that Lee Barnard has signed for Leeds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Barnard
TNT Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Southend OS has denied any leeds purchase. I was also wondering how the daily echo can claim exclusivity of the Barnard deal if its been in the nationals !
Joensuu Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Hmmmm, the Holy Gospel states that Lee Barnard has signed for Leeds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Barnard And the person who edited it (62.173.112.130) also changed the Artic Monkey's page from: "'''Arctic Monkeys''' are an English" to: "'''Arctic Monkeys''' are a droll English Obviously not a spammer then...
Scummer Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 And the person who edited it (62.173.112.130) also changed the Artic Monkey's page from: "'''Arctic Monkeys''' are an English" to: "'''Arctic Monkeys''' are a droll English Obviously not a spammer then... What's spammish about that?
yorkie Posted 20 January, 2010 Posted 20 January, 2010 Someone just posted gone to Norwich on Echo site!
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Leeds have bid £175,000 according to the BBC
Gambol2K9 Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Southend won't budge on the 250k quoted. They know full well either us or Leeds will pay it. We might as well stop fannying about and offer the full amount to tie the deal up. It's hardly like he's been overvalued!
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Southend won't budge on the 250k quoted. They know full well either us or Leeds will pay it. We might as well stop fannying about and offer the full amount to tie the deal up. It's hardly like he's been overvalued! +1!
Whitey Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 We could offer Patterson + cash.... that might seal the deal?
hypochondriac Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Southend won't budge on the 250k quoted. They know full well either us or Leeds will pay it. We might as well stop fannying about and offer the full amount to tie the deal up. It's hardly like he's been overvalued! I'm getting quite annoyed by all this being stingy over transfer fees (if reports are true of course.) We paid a million for a defender so what is 100K? He's clearly worth a lot more than 250K.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 We could offer Patterson + cash.... that might seal the deal? Or, if Pards, wants to keep Paterson, then perhaps Paterson on loan til the end of the season plus cash.
Torres Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 I'm getting quite annoyed by all this being stingy over transfer fees (if reports are true of course.) We paid a million for a defender so what is 100K? He's clearly worth a lot more than 250K. Do we know for a fact that we have made a bid and that we are haggling with Southend?
VectisSaint Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 We could offer Patterson + cash.... that might seal the deal? We could offer more if they will take Pulis as well
Alain Perrin Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 I'm getting quite annoyed by all this being stingy over transfer fees (if reports are true of course.) We paid a million for a defender so what is 100K? He's clearly worth a lot more than 250K. Please buy a used car off me.... If you pay the asking price everytime, you'll not get the best value for money. We've got money, true, but avoiding the impresssion that we're easy with it is important (else we'll get taken for a ride).
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 We could offer more if they will take Pulis as well And Molyneux! In fact, maybe we should get in touch with Stockport, to see if we can shift 3 or 4 of the dross, as they seem to be taking players on in bulk (4 from MKD earlier this week).
toofarnorth Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 I'm getting quite annoyed by all this being stingy over transfer fees (if reports are true of course.) We paid a million for a defender so what is 100K? He's clearly worth a lot more than 250K. I agree. Colchester paid around £400,000 for Gillespie from Cheltenham last season and he hadn't scored nearly as many as Barnard. Think he's good value at 250K.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Just reading the Mirror and they've followed the Sun's lead, from yesterday, and said Barnard has signed for Leeds for an undisclosed fee. I'm wondering if this is one deal that's not going to go our way now...
NickG Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 southend deny he is gone http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southend_utd/8470712.stm
Ken Tone Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Or' date=' if Pards, wants to keep Paterson, then perhaps Paterson on loan til the end of the season plus cash.[/quote'] I'm obviously alone in thinking Patterson may come good one day, so I'd be sorry to see him leave permanently. But a loan out somewhere to the end of the season would do him good. He needs experience. K.
St.Patrik Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 I miss the old days when people here knew that a player where having a medical and about to sign. Now its just pure speculation sadly. Damn the new times.....
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Just reading the Mirror and they've followed the Sun's lead' date=' from yesterday, and said Barnard has signed for Leeds for an undisclosed fee. I'm wondering if this is one deal that's not going to go our way now...[/quote'] Have to believe the beeb over the tabloids. Seems Leeds have definitely made a bid of £175,000. But I don't see why Southend would accept that. Just think it's the start of a bidding war, and hopefully we should be able to offer full price and good terms. Whether he'd rather go to Leeds than us is yet to be discovered.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Check this out guys, apparently an employee of BBC Essex
The9 Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 We could offer Paterson + cash.... that might seal the deal? I'm guessing that we already have offered that, but only half of that piece of news has been reported (by Sky Sports).
S-Clarke Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Check this out guys, apparently an employee of BBC Essex complete snip if true, 17 goals at this level in a team that isn't doing amazing, can't be shrugged at.
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Looking at Ben fryer lastest "twits", he`s ITK as well 200k very good !!!
Andy_Porter Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 If it's 200k and Paterson on loan for the rest of the season it's a cracking deal. if it's 200k and Paterson i'm not so sure, I'd rather just keep hold of Paterson and go for another target. Still he's a decent player at this level and should help us over the next 18 months if we sign him.
Window Cleaner Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 complete snip if true, 17 goals at this level in a team that isn't doing amazing, can't be shrugged at. takes penalties (4 or 5 this season) but then so does Ricky. Seems to score a lot of really late goals, always useful that, shows he motors on for 90+ minutes.
Andy_Porter Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Same amount of goals from open play as Lallana then.
shurlock Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Same amount of goals from open play as Lallana then. Southend aren't the most prolific scorers in L1 (29 goals in total)- perhaps poor finishing or lack of chances.
Andy_Porter Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Southend aren't the most prolific scorers in L1 (29 goals in total)- perhaps poor finishing or lack of chances. From our game agains them they didn't seem very creative. Their best player on the day was the right winger who gave Harding a torrid time all game, other than him their midfield looked very poor. Would be a good signing for us at this level if the 200k fee is correct. Paterson, Connolly, Lambert and Bernard is a pretty handy set of strikers.
Colinjb Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Would love this signing, especially if we beat Leeds to the punch with it!
Appy Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 From our game agains them they didn't seem very creative. Their best player on the day was the right winger who gave Harding a torrid time all game, other than him their midfield looked very poor. Would be a good signing for us at this level if the 200k fee is correct. Paterson, Connolly, Lambert and Bernard is a pretty handy set of strikers. Olivier Bernard?
Liquidshokk Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 (edited) Are coventry just playing with words or has an offer by us actually been rejected? http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/southend_reject_bids_for_city_target_485377/index.shtml Edited 21 January, 2010 by Liquidshokk
S-Clarke Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Is coventry playing with words or has an offer actually been rejected? http://www.coventrycity-mad.co.uk/news/tmnw/southend_reject_bids_for_city_target_485377/index.shtml by the sounds of the twitter feed, we went back with an approved offer which has been accepted.
Third Division South Days Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 by the sounds of the twitter feed, we went back with an approved offer which has been accepted. Sky are reporting that Southend are denying accepting any offer. Though that's been running for some hours now.Looks like an auction between Leeds and us.
SB Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Wouldn’t be surprised if we hear about the signing Friday afternoon, as I heard he’s having a medical at St Mary's tomorrow morning
Wade Garrett Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 In Antonio and Waigo we have 2 players who, I believe, can play both on the wing or up through the middle. Would rather we concentrated our efforts on signing a decent midfielder to be honest. If Southend are trying to have us over with the fee, then let it go.
SuperSAINT Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Would rather we concentrated our efforts on signing a decent midfielder to be honest. If Southend are trying to have us over with the fee, then let it go. I'm sure a midfielder is on the shopping list. Hopefully Stock.
Saints foreva Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 Why don't people let this Stock talk go? It isn't going to happen....
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 (edited) Wouldn’t be surprised if we hear about the signing Friday afternoon, as I heard he’s having a medical at St Mary's tomorrow morning http://www.shrimperzone.com/vb/showthread.php?t=57674 Looks like this might be on then! Found this on a Southend forum discussing his strengths and weaknesses. Looking at the pros and cons listed by the first poster, he does sound Ormerod-esque, as someone else said on the main HCDAJFU thread... Edited 21 January, 2010 by Ivan Katalinic's 'tache
Toadhall Saint Posted 21 January, 2010 Posted 21 January, 2010 I'm getting quite annoyed by all this being stingy over transfer fees (if reports are true of course.) We paid a million for a defender so what is 100K? He's clearly worth a lot more than 250K. But its not just the transfer fee is it? Agents, wages, signing on fees etc etc etc. We need to clear some players out - NC will not keep just buying.
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