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Elliot Ward - The Story!

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he was i think, but normally he is a very consistent taker. He was always cov's pen taker.

 

But we have Ricky anyway, plus plenty of other blokes who take a decent penalty. Doubt if we're bidding for Ward for his penalty taking prowess.

Saint_clark

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he's only 23 and learning the game himself!

 

i think he's more of a Mellis type player, a direct replacement who is more suited to come straight into the team.

 

With other 100 appearances i'd say he's learnt the game by now.

Thedelldays

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With other 100 appearances i'd say he's learnt the game by now.

if that is the case..why are we bothering...I dont want us to sign mid table league 1 players who are at their peak and can only go down hill

S-Clarke

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But we have Ricky anyway, plus plenty of other blokes who take a decent penalty. Doubt if we're bidding for Ward for his penalty taking prowess.

 

well it'll increase our likelihood of winning penalty shoot outs...;)

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using the term `concrete offer' suggests that we have at least scouted and possibily enquired about his availability etc.

 

No doubt, but AP said we had put a couple of bids in, Lenny Lawrence says he's definitely had no concrete offer from us. What that means I have no real idea.We've bid for someone, BR say it isn't Lines...

 

Anyway I really don't think midfield is a priority we need a RB and a CB at least.

If we have a real RB it frees up James to reinforce midfield when necessary.

 

It could be that Lines is just using us to get a better deal, wouldn't be the first time it's happened would it.

Andy_Porter

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if that is the case..why are we bothering...I dont want us to sign mid table league 1 players who are at their peak and can only go down hill

 

Football is a squad game now, we need a group of 18~ players who are good enough to step into the starting eleven. If Morgan breaks a leg on Saturday then we will have no chance of making the play offs, can't rely on Lloyd James to come in and do Schneiderlins job for six months.

Glasgow_Saint

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I only want to sign players that previous clubs fans are sad to lose - ala Lambert and Hammond.

 

The best judge of a players ability are the fans that watch week in week out - if a player is not popular (from performances) at one club, he's unlikely to be popular here imo

 

BR fans dont seem to fussed about losing Lines - I say we therefore look elsewhere

Morph

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That is probably the sort of video evidence we used to decide on signing Delgado,Chala,and 'the Torpedo'.

 

What happened to the Torpedo ?

 

Anyone know

 

Regards

 

Morph

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What happened to the Torpedo ?

 

Anyone know

 

Regards

 

Morph

 

he was playing in Venezuela; don't know if he still is though.

Before you ask, I have a distant cousin in Caracas who writes me sometimes, his grandad played for Chile in the 62 word cup but he was one of my gran's brother in laws.

Saint Fan CaM

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I only want to sign players that previous clubs fans are sad to lose - ala Lambert and Hammond.

 

The best judge of a players ability are the fans that watch week in week out - if a player is not popular (from performances) at one club, he's unlikely to be popular here imo

 

BR fans dont seem to fussed about losing Lines - I say we therefore look elsewhere

 

 

I don't think Lines would be AP's first choice otherwise a firm offer would have been placed by now. I would not expect to see one go in until the end of the week depending on the outcome of the two firm offers AP has already eluded to.

Johnny Shearer

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I only want to sign players that previous clubs fans are sad to lose - ala Lambert and Hammond.

 

The best judge of a players ability are the fans that watch week in week out - if a player is not popular (from performances) at one club, he's unlikely to be popular here imo

 

BR fans dont seem to fussed about losing Lines - I say we therefore look elsewhere

 

Oh come on that is such blinkered view. First what if the fans love a club stalwart but isnt that good? Ormerod/Benali etc?

 

Secondly plenty of fans slate their own players who do well at other clubs.

 

I see Delap is still playing the Premier league.................

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Glasgow_Saint

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Oh come on that is such blinkered view. First what if the fans love a club stalwart but isnt that good? Omerod/Benali etc?

 

Secondly plenty of fans slate their own players who do well at other clubs.

 

I see Delap is still playing the Premier league.................

 

Always one or two exceptions, but fans reactions/opinions of players is generally a very good gauge of a players ability.

Johnny Shearer

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Ormerod seems to be doing the biz in the ccc.....reckon we should try a cheeky 650k or loan bid for carsley

 

Dont get me wrong he's good at CCC level but the Premier was a little too much in my opinion. Rather like Shaun Goater - absolutely smashed them in the lower leagues but was found out in the Premier easily enough.

Johnny Shearer

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Always one or two exceptions, but fans reactions/opinions of players is generally a very good gauge of a players ability.

 

Not disasgreeing with that - just wouldnt ignore a potential transfer target just because the fans arent in love with them.

hypochondriac

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Who were we more disappointed to lose: Beattie or Fuller?

 

Who do Stoke fans now rate as much better?

 

I don't think many fans liked Fuller and for us Beattie was much better. I'm just saying some players have potential but it is only when they move to certain clubs that play a certain way that this is realised. Having said that, I am initially underwhelmed should we sign Lines. I think we are in need of a DM to play alongside Hammond with Morgan coming off the bench.

shurlock

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The way AP has been talking it seems that the priorities are replacements for the loanees we've lost i.e Trotman so Ward makes sense.

 

That would suggest we're after somebody in the Mellis mould - a bustling, ball-playing midfielder. Yesterday again showed that with Hammond and Schneiderlin's tendency to sit back, there isn't that drive or movement in the middle that can sometimes get beyond the forwards.

 

Interesting that Gobern has seen alot more playing time in the middle of late. While he's got bags of potential, he's far from the finished article. But the fact that AP is willing to throw Gobern in there suggests its an important area of the pitch and somewhere AP might seek to strenghten.

SuperSAINT

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That would suggest we're after somebody in the Mellis mould - a bustling, ball-playing midfielder. Yesterday again showed that with Hammond and Schneiderlin's tendency to sit back, there isn't that drive or movement in the middle that can sometimes get beyond the forwards.

 

Agreed. I can see him fitting into a 4-5-1 system. Like you say, neither Morgan or Hammond really run at players. So this guy offers another option for us, and a different threat to the opposition. Not to mention, the fact that he's 6'2", which fits in with our newly formed team of giants!

saintedwill

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Isn't Lines a passing, playmaking midfielder - i.e. someone to take over Morgans role and teach him?

 

I've been chatting to a few Gasheads and they're more than happy that we're taking him.

 

I've seen him and he's not exactly brilliant (or good for that matter). If anything Morgan will be teaching him a lot.

 

On the other hand, AP hasn't got much wrong yet in the transfer market and I trust him completely

Psycrow

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Always one or two exceptions, but fans reactions/opinions of players is generally a very good gauge of a players ability.

 

There's been about 5 exceptions made on this thread alone... all from our club... If the same was said for every club in the league I think "a few exceptions" is a little underestimation, don't you?

Saint_clark

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if that is the case..why are we bothering...I dont want us to sign mid table league 1 players who are at their peak and can only go down hill

 

There is a difference between knowing the game and being at your peak.

hasper57saint

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All I can add to this post is 'Ain't I glad we didn't go after Earnshaw. Did you see his penalty miss on TV last night? What a waste of space!

PS A Cov City neighbour says Cov will be the losers if Eliot goes anywhere. Why Coleman has 'shut him down' the fans have no idea.

Tac-tics

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Full information.

 

Steve Hutchinson is the man who has confirmed it, Saints have made a "firm" offer which will be reviewed early this week.

 

He is my second *source* the conversation was more about the Pompey game but has confirmed a "firm" offer has been made.

Window Cleaner

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Full information.

 

Steve Hutchinson is the man who has confirmed it, Saints have made a "firm" offer which will be reviewed early this week.

 

He is my second *source* the conversation was more about the Pompey game but has confirmed a "firm" offer has been made.

 

 

Full information about what? Must be missing a couple of posts.

Only Steve Hutchinson I know is an O Lineman with the Brett Favre Vikings.

Chez

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All I can add to this post is 'Ain't I glad we didn't go after Earnshaw. Did you see his penalty miss on TV last night? What a waste of space!

scored six goals in the last eight games for Forrest. Who'd want a player in that sort of form?
Bailey

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Elliot Ward would be a first-class signing for us.

 

Exactly what we need at the minute, and he'd form a strong partnership in the heart of our defence with Jaidi.

 

Would love to see him come here.

Colinjb

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Having just whipped round my local mates to get their opinion on him, they would be sorry to see him go and believe he is at the very least quite decent at Championship level.

 

Would be a great signing.

Glasgow_Saint

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Having just whipped round my local mates to get their opinion on him, they would be sorry to see him go and believe he is at the very least quite decent at Championship level.

 

Would be a great signing.

 

Should have just rang or text him?

Faz

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Always one or two exceptions, but fans reactions/opinions of players is generally a very good gauge of a players ability.

 

Chris Marsden?

St.Patrik

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Ward is going to Preston on loan according to Coventry Swedens site - with an option to buy him next summer. Replacement for Troman perhaps ?

 

Offcourse this is rumours like on all other forums.

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Ward would be a great signing. Remember he was a beast at the back for Plymouth when they were a mid-table Championship side. Scores goals as well.

 

Would be a very similar player to Trotman IMO, a worthy replacement and the exact standard that Pardew should be looking to try and get into the club.

 

However we should also be wary about not letting players go. Ensuring the likes of Lallana and Schniederlin will stick around next season for a probable 2nd season in League 1 is paramount to next seasons success.

S-Clarke

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Ward is going to Preston on loan according to Coventry Swedens site - with an option to buy him next summer. Replacement for Troman perhaps ?

 

Offcourse this is rumours like on all other forums.

 

have you got the link to the site?

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