Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 he was i think, but normally he is a very consistent taker. He was always cov's pen taker. But we have Ricky anyway, plus plenty of other blokes who take a decent penalty. Doubt if we're bidding for Ward for his penalty taking prowess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 he's only 23 and learning the game himself! i think he's more of a Mellis type player, a direct replacement who is more suited to come straight into the team. With other 100 appearances i'd say he's learnt the game by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 With other 100 appearances i'd say he's learnt the game by now. if that is the case..why are we bothering...I dont want us to sign mid table league 1 players who are at their peak and can only go down hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 But we have Ricky anyway, plus plenty of other blokes who take a decent penalty. Doubt if we're bidding for Ward for his penalty taking prowess. well it'll increase our likelihood of winning penalty shoot outs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 A bit of info about the Lines situation here. http://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/page/LatestNews/0,,10328~1920175,00.html No concrete offers for him, if you believe that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 well it'll increase our likelihood of winning penalty shoot outs... we win them anyway, 2 from 2 this season; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 A bit of info about the Lines situation here. http://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/page/LatestNews/0,,10328~1920175,00.html No concrete offers for him, if you believe that. using the term `concrete offer' suggests that we have at least scouted and possibily enquired about his availability etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 using the term `concrete offer' suggests that we have at least scouted and possibily enquired about his availability etc. No doubt, but AP said we had put a couple of bids in, Lenny Lawrence says he's definitely had no concrete offer from us. What that means I have no real idea.We've bid for someone, BR say it isn't Lines... Anyway I really don't think midfield is a priority we need a RB and a CB at least. If we have a real RB it frees up James to reinforce midfield when necessary. It could be that Lines is just using us to get a better deal, wouldn't be the first time it's happened would it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 if that is the case..why are we bothering...I dont want us to sign mid table league 1 players who are at their peak and can only go down hill Football is a squad game now, we need a group of 18~ players who are good enough to step into the starting eleven. If Morgan breaks a leg on Saturday then we will have no chance of making the play offs, can't rely on Lloyd James to come in and do Schneiderlins job for six months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I only want to sign players that previous clubs fans are sad to lose - ala Lambert and Hammond. The best judge of a players ability are the fans that watch week in week out - if a player is not popular (from performances) at one club, he's unlikely to be popular here imo BR fans dont seem to fussed about losing Lines - I say we therefore look elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morph Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 That is probably the sort of video evidence we used to decide on signing Delgado,Chala,and 'the Torpedo'. What happened to the Torpedo ? Anyone know Regards Morph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 is this just regurgitating an old rumour and running with it after hearing we had made 2 bids? And can he play with sodje? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 What happened to the Torpedo ? Anyone know Regards Morph he was playing in Venezuela; don't know if he still is though. Before you ask, I have a distant cousin in Caracas who writes me sometimes, his grandad played for Chile in the 62 word cup but he was one of my gran's brother in laws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I only want to sign players that previous clubs fans are sad to lose - ala Lambert and Hammond. The best judge of a players ability are the fans that watch week in week out - if a player is not popular (from performances) at one club, he's unlikely to be popular here imo BR fans dont seem to fussed about losing Lines - I say we therefore look elsewhere I don't think Lines would be AP's first choice otherwise a firm offer would have been placed by now. I would not expect to see one go in until the end of the week depending on the outcome of the two firm offers AP has already eluded to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 (edited) I only want to sign players that previous clubs fans are sad to lose - ala Lambert and Hammond. The best judge of a players ability are the fans that watch week in week out - if a player is not popular (from performances) at one club, he's unlikely to be popular here imo BR fans dont seem to fussed about losing Lines - I say we therefore look elsewhere Oh come on that is such blinkered view. First what if the fans love a club stalwart but isnt that good? Ormerod/Benali etc? Secondly plenty of fans slate their own players who do well at other clubs. I see Delap is still playing the Premier league................. Edited 3 January, 2010 by Johnny Shearer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Ormerod seems to be doing the biz in the ccc.....reckon we should try a cheeky 650k or loan bid for carsley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Oh come on that is such blinkered view. First what if the fans love a club stalwart but isnt that good? Omerod/Benali etc? Secondly plenty of fans slate their own players who do well at other clubs. I see Delap is still playing the Premier league................. Always one or two exceptions, but fans reactions/opinions of players is generally a very good gauge of a players ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Ormerod seems to be doing the biz in the ccc.....reckon we should try a cheeky 650k or loan bid for carsley Dont get me wrong he's good at CCC level but the Premier was a little too much in my opinion. Rather like Shaun Goater - absolutely smashed them in the lower leagues but was found out in the Premier easily enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Always one or two exceptions, but fans reactions/opinions of players is generally a very good gauge of a players ability. Not disasgreeing with that - just wouldnt ignore a potential transfer target just because the fans arent in love with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Not disasgreeing with that - just wouldnt ignore a potential transfer target just because the fans arent in love with them. Ricardo Fuller being one example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Ricardo Fuller being one example. Who were we more disappointed to lose: Beattie or Fuller? Who do Stoke fans now rate as much better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Who were we more disappointed to lose: Beattie or Fuller? Who do Stoke fans now rate as much better? I don't think many fans liked Fuller and for us Beattie was much better. I'm just saying some players have potential but it is only when they move to certain clubs that play a certain way that this is realised. Having said that, I am initially underwhelmed should we sign Lines. I think we are in need of a DM to play alongside Hammond with Morgan coming off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 The way AP has been talking it seems that the priorities are replacements for the loanees we've lost i.e Trotman so Ward makes sense. That would suggest we're after somebody in the Mellis mould - a bustling, ball-playing midfielder. Yesterday again showed that with Hammond and Schneiderlin's tendency to sit back, there isn't that drive or movement in the middle that can sometimes get beyond the forwards. Interesting that Gobern has seen alot more playing time in the middle of late. While he's got bags of potential, he's far from the finished article. But the fact that AP is willing to throw Gobern in there suggests its an important area of the pitch and somewhere AP might seek to strenghten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 That would suggest we're after somebody in the Mellis mould - a bustling, ball-playing midfielder. Yesterday again showed that with Hammond and Schneiderlin's tendency to sit back, there isn't that drive or movement in the middle that can sometimes get beyond the forwards. Agreed. I can see him fitting into a 4-5-1 system. Like you say, neither Morgan or Hammond really run at players. So this guy offers another option for us, and a different threat to the opposition. Not to mention, the fact that he's 6'2", which fits in with our newly formed team of giants! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintedwill Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Isn't Lines a passing, playmaking midfielder - i.e. someone to take over Morgans role and teach him? I've been chatting to a few Gasheads and they're more than happy that we're taking him. I've seen him and he's not exactly brilliant (or good for that matter). If anything Morgan will be teaching him a lot. On the other hand, AP hasn't got much wrong yet in the transfer market and I trust him completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 A bit of info about the Lines situation here. http://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/page/LatestNews/0,,10328~1920175,00.html No concrete offers for him, if you believe that. Pardew definately said two bids have gone in - perhaps wrong guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycrow Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Always one or two exceptions, but fans reactions/opinions of players is generally a very good gauge of a players ability. There's been about 5 exceptions made on this thread alone... all from our club... If the same was said for every club in the league I think "a few exceptions" is a little underestimation, don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 we bought Wotton and the Plymouth fans idolise him. It can work both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 if that is the case..why are we bothering...I dont want us to sign mid table league 1 players who are at their peak and can only go down hill There is a difference between knowing the game and being at your peak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I do hope AP gets a bloody right back tho........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hasper57saint Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 All I can add to this post is 'Ain't I glad we didn't go after Earnshaw. Did you see his penalty miss on TV last night? What a waste of space! PS A Cov City neighbour says Cov will be the losers if Eliot goes anywhere. Why Coleman has 'shut him down' the fans have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tac-tics Posted 3 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Full information. Steve Hutchinson is the man who has confirmed it, Saints have made a "firm" offer which will be reviewed early this week. He is my second *source* the conversation was more about the Pompey game but has confirmed a "firm" offer has been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 few comments here http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/coventry-city-fc/football-rumours-gossip/2009/11/17/notts-county-fc-planning-elliott-ward-offer-92746-25185045/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Full information. Steve Hutchinson is the man who has confirmed it, Saints have made a "firm" offer which will be reviewed early this week. He is my second *source* the conversation was more about the Pompey game but has confirmed a "firm" offer has been made. Full information about what? Must be missing a couple of posts. Only Steve Hutchinson I know is an O Lineman with the Brett Favre Vikings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 we bought Wotton and the Plymouth fans idolise him. It can work both ways. But tbf it's Plymouth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 But tbf it's Plymouth... who are the only club in the world stupid enough to give BWP a 2 year contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 who are the only club in the world stupid enough to give BWP a 2 year contract. They are a ****ty small club in general. The fact they are a league above us makes me want to cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 They are a ****ty small club in general. The fact they are a league above us makes me want to cry. Merely temporary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 All I can add to this post is 'Ain't I glad we didn't go after Earnshaw. Did you see his penalty miss on TV last night? What a waste of space! scored six goals in the last eight games for Forrest. Who'd want a player in that sort of form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Merely temporary Still hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Elliot Ward would be a first-class signing for us. Exactly what we need at the minute, and he'd form a strong partnership in the heart of our defence with Jaidi. Would love to see him come here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Having just whipped round my local mates to get their opinion on him, they would be sorry to see him go and believe he is at the very least quite decent at Championship level. Would be a great signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 If we had accepted Ray Ranson's SISU bid then chances are Elliott Ward would already be our player and this thread would be moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Having just whipped round my local mates to get their opinion on him, they would be sorry to see him go and believe he is at the very least quite decent at Championship level. Would be a great signing. Should have just rang or text him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Always one or two exceptions, but fans reactions/opinions of players is generally a very good gauge of a players ability. Chris Marsden? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Ward is going to Preston on loan according to Coventry Swedens site - with an option to buy him next summer. Replacement for Troman perhaps ? Offcourse this is rumours like on all other forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Ward would be a great signing. Remember he was a beast at the back for Plymouth when they were a mid-table Championship side. Scores goals as well. Would be a very similar player to Trotman IMO, a worthy replacement and the exact standard that Pardew should be looking to try and get into the club. However we should also be wary about not letting players go. Ensuring the likes of Lallana and Schniederlin will stick around next season for a probable 2nd season in League 1 is paramount to next seasons success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Ward is going to Preston on loan according to Coventry Swedens site - with an option to buy him next summer. Replacement for Troman perhaps ? Offcourse this is rumours like on all other forums. have you got the link to the site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I think we are in need of a DM to play alongside Hammond with Morgan coming off the bench. We should bid for that Simon Gillett chap at Doncaster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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