Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Looking at the particularly cold weather of late got me thinking about SMS and a rumour from a while back that under pitch heating pipes had been installed but heaters had not. Just wondering if anyone has any up to date info on this? Seemslike it's another investment Markus might consider alongside Staplewood to improve SMS?
Neil Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Correct. The pipes for drainage can double up as under-soil heating, but it was not deemed necessary to put the heaters in due to the location of Southampton, and the fact that SMS is pretty much at sea level and next to a river. Looking at the 9-odd years of SMS so far, that decision looks correct. And can't recall many games being frozen off at the Dell in the latter years, other than that Crewe FA Cup match, and that was because the pipes weren't lagged!
pilsburydoughboy Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 The piping system under St Marys was installed but never connected so the system cannot be used at present.The system could be used to warm the ground to prevent freezing and also extract surplus water from the pitch to prevent floding.The heating was deemed too expensive to run and not vital due to the grounds location near the sea so he who cannot be named stopped the work. The system is all installed so could be connected.
Alain Perrin Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Can't see the point really - there are better things to spend money on. If it freezes, postpone the game. We've had cold weather recently, but I cannot ever remember a game at SMS being stopped because of a frozen pitch. I think it came close once in the early years, but I don't think it happened. Anyone know? I remember a game being called off because of rain (evening match whilst still in the Premiership), but other than that we've been fairly lucky. One of the benefits of being on the South coast Riviera
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 January, 2010 Author Posted 2 January, 2010 Agree with comments above regarding need in the past although it is getting colder to the point where frozen ground will stop a game. I think they put covers on the pitch nowadays though?
arfurdent Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 how about using all the hot air from Mr Storrie and Skatemouth in general
Footballfan Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 The game that was called off was Crystal Palace
JustMike Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 isnt it a requirement to have undersoil heating in the prem?
This Charming Man Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 isnt it a requirement to have undersoil heating in the prem? Just like Fratton Park?
JustMike Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Just like Fratton Park? i thought they did have it
JustMike Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 sorry no they dont, neither do Fulham. There are talks that it should be made mandatory
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Before we start messing about with the pitch it might be a good idea to fix the roof - a little lad near me had rain water constantly dripping onto his head/seat during the last home match .
Arizona Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Can't think of any major facilities SMS is really missing. However, I think we should add a log flume to the stadium. Even Barcelona don't have that.
Winchester_Saint Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Can't think of any major facilities SMS is really missing. However, I think we should add a log flume to the stadium. Even Barcelona don't have that. Awesome halftime entertainment potential there!
saint lard Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Before we start messing about with the pitch it might be a good idea to fix the roof - a little lad near me had rain water constantly dripping onto his head/seat during the last home match . Ball boy? it happens.
VectisSaint Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 sorry no they dont, neither do Fulham. There are talks that it should be made mandatory Fulham will have to sort that out then, no need for the other lot they won't be there much longer.
VectisSaint Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Before we start messing about with the pitch it might be a good idea to fix the roof - a little lad near me had rain water constantly dripping onto his head/seat during the last home match . Kids today, huh! When I were lad we didn't have roofs.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Ball boy? it happens. I'd say a ball boy who spent the entire game seated in row x showed a distinct lack of enthusiasm for the job . Rather like me having to return to work on Monday after a long Christmas holiday .
saint_mears Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 I thought this was going to be about the owners buying adjacent land as keepsake for expansion.
madsent Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 isnt it a requirement to have undersoil heating in the prem? That's a myth and clearly wrong as our ground proves. Fratton Park, St Andrews and Craven Cottage don't have undersoil heating either.
JustMike Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 That's a myth and clearly wrong as our ground proves. Fratton Park, St Andrews and Craven Cottage don't have undersoil heating either. see my last post
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Undersoil heating is not always best for the pitch. I understand that there are better solutions these days, such as insulating ground covers.
Mattio Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 while we're at it might as well get a roof like the millennium stadium?
Verbal Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Can't think of any major facilities SMS is really missing. However, I think we should add a log flume to the stadium. Even Barcelona don't have that. If you end it in the river, it could be the exit for away fans.
Paul Chuckle Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 The game that was called off was Crystal Palace As it didn't stop heavy raining for hours. Remember the pitch was like a swimming pool
S-Clarke Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Can't think of any major facilities SMS is really missing. However, I think we should add a log flume to the stadium. Even Barcelona don't have that. I'm pretty sure that was in LifeLongsaints/HelpMeRhonda's blueprint to success. If only they had taken over
Verbal Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Fulham will have to sort that out then, no need for the other lot they won't be there much longer. I'll forgive Fulham, who have one of the most charming grounds in the Prem - not something you could remotely say about you know who.
Arizona Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 I'm pretty sure that was in LifeLongsaints/HelpMeRhonda's blueprint to success. If only they had taken over They promised a log flume, but actually they were secretly planning to build a set of swings and a see-saw.
saint_mears Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 while we're at it might as well get a roof like the millennium stadium? I read that somewhere as being rumoured !
Master Bates Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Can't think of any major facilities SMS is really missing. However, I think we should add a log flume to the stadium. Even Barcelona don't have that. Chips. Need to invest in the kiosks to buy new equipment to make chips.
RedAndWhite91 Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Stewards in the away section dressed as paramilitary complete with guns would be cool.
Arizona Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Clean the supports would be nice. Then paint them red. Would look good against the white background and would give SMS a bit more of a stand-out identity compared to other "flat-pack" stadiums. Any photoshop wizzards out there?
RedAndWhite91 Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Then paint them red. Would look good against the white background and would give SMS a bit more of a stand-out identity compared to other "flat-pack" stadiums. Any photoshop wizzards out there? Sound idea, I'll conjure something up on photoshop later if no one does it before I'm home. Off to the football now, will look at SMS and imagine red supports and a log flume. "COYR" and all that.
Danny Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Before we start messing about with the pitch it might be a good idea to fix the roof - a little lad near me had rain water constantly dripping onto his head/seat during the last home match . Same thing happened to me in the Chapel Stand. It was like Chinese water torture. No-one else around me affected, just me. Brilliant.
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 They promised a log flume, but actually they were secretly planning to build a set of swings and a see-saw. All Pinnacle had to offer was a pack of cards and a set of dominoes with three missing.
Um Bongo Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Same thing happened to me in the Chapel Stand. It was like Chinese water torture. No-one else around me affected, just me. Brilliant. Are you a little lad? Maybe he was talking about you?
Arizona Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 All Pinnacle had to offer was a pack of cards and a set of dominoes with three missing. Pinnacle were going to build the worlds fastest rollercoaster, but the Premier League wouldn't let them.
Danny Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Are you a little lad? Maybe he was talking about you? I can think of many things I've been described as, but "little lad" is most certainly not one of them!
Thedelldays Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 The game that was called off was Crystal Palace I think this is only game lost at SMS.....it was severe rain and the pitch was water logged
dune Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 If we are to believe the man made global warming lie then there's no need for undersoil heating, but this little nugget puts that theory into question.. Why don't you go away and actually do some reading on the 'theory'. It is entirely predictable that an overall warming effect can cause such cold spells, they can be induced by changes in trans-oceanic currents that are caused by heat absorbtion by the sea. Historically, Britain's climate has been out of phase with the continent due to the warming effect of the trans-Atlantic currents, we have generally warmer winters than our neighbours. As these currents change course, and use a more southerly track, we come more into the influence of colder northern waters drawn down from the Arctic. According to the left wing Climate Change comrades global warming makes it colder. Better get those pipes hooked up Markus.
SaintRobbie Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Looking at the particularly cold weather of late got me thinking about SMS and a rumour from a while back that under pitch heating pipes had been installed but heaters had not. Just wondering if anyone has any up to date info on this? Seemslike it's another investment Markus might consider alongside Staplewood to improve SMS? ... or we could buy another decent player?
SaintRobbie Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 I think this is only game lost at SMS.....it was severe rain and the pitch was water logged Correct, that was rain-based not frost.
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Don't think SMS has ever really had a problem with frost so what is the point ?? Would be a waste of money IMO, i was hoping reading the thread title it may have been an expansion etc. Or even better beer !!!!!!
Pennyred Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Has anyone seen the 'graffiti' on the concourses at Stoke? All football related. Shame we can't get Big Ron's caricatures of players old and current enlarged and copied to cover the dark depressing breeze-block walls in our concourses. Perhaps the beer wouldn't seem so bad if we had something cheerful to smile at?
70's Mike Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Waste of money rather spend it on a hard working wide midfield player
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 The game that was called off was Crystal Palace And that was waterlogging! Which I'm not sure you can 'heat off'...
SamKimish Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Before we start messing about with the pitch it might be a good idea to fix the roof - a little lad near me had rain water constantly dripping onto his head/seat during the last home match . Was this the same little boy that was with his Dad and was offered a different seat but chose to stay? My seat is two behind.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 Was this the same little boy that was with his Dad and was offered a different seat but chose to stay? My seat is two behind. Hallo neighbour , behind the Chapel goal is the sweet spot at St Marys I aways say .
brianoneils slidingtackle Posted 2 January, 2010 Posted 2 January, 2010 I like to improve the catering facilities at SMS, to be able to get a drink at half time would help, at the moment I would have to leave my seat before half time to make sure that I'm in the queue early enough to get a drink.
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