Cabrone Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 is Pericard better than Patterson? Packing the squad full of wage sapping mediocrity is what we had when we got relegated from the prem and then the coke. I'd rather stick with Patterson than buy mediocrity. Surely we can do better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 he's had a career playing first team football a higher levels. he is 27. not sure whether that is just mediocrity for a league 1 sub forward! Not saying he would have been my first choice tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 I personally think he's very good at this level, having seen bits of him playing for Carlisle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 As others have said, I would not judge him fully on his previous time with Saints otherwise we would be slating Lallana etc. So, as he's a big experienced CF that could take on the duties of Lambert against lower league opposition, I think he could be a good squad addition. Shame we're not going for someone quicker, but hey it's January and who else might be available on a free, because I don't think there's a never ending pot of money for another striker. My thoughts are that AP will be spending any transfer money on a CB and midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Packing the squad full of wage sapping mediocrity is what we had when we got relegated from the prem and then the coke. I'd rather stick with Patterson than buy mediocrity. Surely we can do better than this. I know. When the f**k is Liebherr going to pull his finger out and buy Torres? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 South today report that he is ''set to sign'' in the next few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 South today report that he is ''set to sign'' in the next few days. FFS. I wanted Barnard. Sh*t signing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 South today report that he is ''set to sign'' in the next few days. Which is rubbish and likely to be untrue because his short term contract at Carlisle doesn't run out until Jan 12th or 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Which is rubbish and likely to be untrue because his short term contract at Carlisle doesn't run out until Jan 12th or 13th. If we really wanted him, a week wouldn't matter. He's likely to be ours imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 South today report that he is ''set to sign'' in the next few days. Yeah heard that too. Hopefully they have their wires crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 FFS. I wanted Barnard. Sh*t signing IMO. We need back up for Lambert so Pericard fits the bill for that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 If we really wanted him, a week wouldn't matter. He's likely to be ours imo. Well then that would mean we were buying him rather than signing a player at the end of a contract for free. Why pay Carlisle money when a week later it is free? Pericard can't just walk out, I'm sure they'd like him to play on Saturday when he is still under contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Yeah heard that too. Hopefully they have their wires crossed. I don't know, I've got an open mind on it - he's been decent for Carlisle at this level and will be a useful squad player. Sky sports reported earlier that they ''understood'' he'd rejected the contract offer by carlisle and was set to join another club - so putting that and south today's report together, he's probably ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie2008 Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 I know. When the f**k is Liebherr going to pull his finger out and buy Torres? Like it! I think I'm easily pleased. Oh the irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Twitter update BBC Radio Solent understands that #saintsfc are closing in on the signing of Carlisle United striker Vincent Pericard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Fuller mk.II? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Fuller mk.II? Why are you comparing him to Fuller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Why are you comparing him to Fuller? Because they were both skates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Why are you comparing him to Fuller? Can you not remember the reaction when he signed, the reaction he go on the pitch and therefore his ****e performances... If Pericard's is anything like it is on here at the moment he'll go the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 I don't know, I've got an open mind on it - he's been decent for Carlisle at this level and will be a useful squad player. Sky sports reported earlier that they ''understood'' he'd rejected the contract offer by carlisle and was set to join another club - so putting that and south today's report together, he's probably ours. Yes - ok squad player but I thought we were after players that would see us into and through the CCC. Still as you say I'll keep an open mind - if he joins us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Yes - ok squad player but I thought we were after players that would see us into and through the CCC. Still as you say I'll keep an open mind - if he joins us. I'd still expect us to go for a pacy striker though, i see Pericard as a kind of ''replacement'' for lambo, if he's injured - as we have no one else with any sort of ''presence'' to play up top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 (edited) Pericard will only be a Rickie Lambert "targetman" backup if he does sign. I think it is a sensible signing. At present we don't have any cover for Lambert what does and would struggle if he got injured and would have to change the style of play by using very different strikers like Papa Waigo and David Connolly. Edited 5 January, 2010 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 is this a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 I'd still expect us to go for a pacy striker though, i see Pericard as a kind of ''replacement'' for lambo, if he's injured - as we have no one else with any sort of ''presence'' to play up top. I'll go with that - poor mans Lambert as it were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 is this a joke? No its not a joke but makes perfect sense as immediate back up for Lambert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's There Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 AT least Pericard will have some good coaching, and that may make all the difference! I AP I trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 He has been good for Carlisle and he has performed well at Championship level before. In Pardew we trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 No its not a joke but makes perfect sense as immediate back up for Lambert. Alan Pardew: "We are looking to improve our side, but It’s a depressed market at the moment." Has he decided to give up on "improving the side" and settled on improving the subs bench? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Alan Pardew "We are looking to improve our side, but It’s a depressed market at the moment." Has he decided to give up on "improving the side" and settled on improving the subs bench? What is wrong with taking up any sort of opportunity when it presents it's self? We will sign big this window, for sure, but our main issue is squad depth and there are no problems in adding a bit of ''cover''. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Has he decided to give up on "improving the side" and settled on improving the subs bench? Why can't he do both? Any good manager would. If Lambert got injured before Saturday Saints would have to change the entire style of play as have no similar player to Lambert. I'm confident if Pericard signs he will be followed with others in different positions that will go straight into the team i.e. a centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Why can't he do both? Any good manager would. If Lambert got injured before Saturday Saints would have to change the entire style of play as have no similar player to Lambert. I'm confident if Pericard signs he will be followed with others in different positions that will go straight into the team i.e. a centre back. Id prefer AP to sign the likes of Simeon Jackson to challenge Lambert for his place, not just contently 'back him up in case of injury' I want a team full of quality, not a decent 1st team with 'ok' backup! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Following the signing of Antonio (a large cheer of delight went up in Reading) I can't say that I'm impressed. Pericard had a good first season for Pompey in CCC but has done nothing anywhere he's been since. Went to Carlisle because nobody else wanted him. Has played six games for them. We really need better players than this, since the two of them aren't improving the quality of the squad. My heart sinks every time I see MA start a game, and now this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Id prefer AP to sign the likes of Simeon Jackson to challenge Lambert for his place, not just contently 'back him up in case of injury' I want a team full of quality, not a decent 1st team with 'ok' backup! Jackson and Lambert are completely different types of striker. Pericard would be backup for Lambert. Connolly is the 2nd striker when playing 442. Waigo and Lallana are other options. Maybe buying someone like Simeon Jackson or Lee Barnard would be good to compete for this role. That "could" still happen this window, no-one knows. As I said if Lambert gets injured now, Saints will have to change the stye of play. If Pericard is signed they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 I must say i was expecting a little more. Despite no concrete evidence i would like to see Barnard or Jackson in a Saints shirt before the end of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peacey Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 FFS. I wanted Barnard. Sh*t signing IMO. That would explain your ****ty comment towards me on footie forums then, *****..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Which is rubbish and likely to be untrue because his short term contract at Carlisle doesn't run out until Jan 12th or 13th. he has a week left on his contract. Assume he has said he wants to come he and we want him. They can either say no, he has to wait a week unless you pay a fee, or they let him go. Sure they would let him leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Jackson and Lambert are completely different types of striker. Pericard would be backup for Lambert. Connolly is the 2nd striker when playing 442. Waigo and Lallana are other options. Maybe buying someone like Simeon Jackson or Lee Barnard would be good to compete for this role. That "could" still happen this window, no-one knows. As I said if Lambert gets injured now, Saints will have to change the stye of play. If Pericard is signed they won't. Sorry I don't get excited about signing average backup players, just incase our best player gets injured. What message does this give the team? You're doing 'alright - not great, just ok' BUT carry on regardless. What our team needed this Jan was a kick up the backside and competition for places will deliver that hard and fast. This team has a potential to be an 8.5/10 in L1 but its playing at maybe 4.5/10. Signing average 'backup' aint gunna change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Sorry I don't get excited about signing average backup players, just incase our best player gets injured. What message does this give the team? You're doing 'alright - not great, just ok' BUT carry on regardless. What our team needed this Jan was a kick up the backside and competition for places will deliver that hard and fast. This team has a potential to be an 8.5/10 in L1 but its playing at maybe 4.5/10. Signing average 'backup' aint gunna change that. ffs - it's the 5th of january, i can assure you we're working on bigger and better things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 One bad pass or missed shot and he will become the boo boy just like Fuller if we do sign him it's probably Pardews first big mistake it will be a bad move both for the player and the club I was hoping for Pitman or maybe someone like Healy on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Sorry I don't get excited about signing average backup players, just incase our best player gets injured. What message does this give the team? You're doing 'alright - not great, just ok' BUT carry on regardless. What our team needed this Jan was a kick up the backside and competition for places will deliver that hard and fast. This team has a potential to be an 8.5/10 in L1 but its playing at maybe 4.5/10. Signing average 'backup' aint gunna change that. How do you know that Pericard is the only striker to be signed? Would you be happy if Saints signed Pericard as backup for Lamber AND Lee Barnard to challenge with David Connolly for the 2nd striker role by the end of January? So 4 strikers of Lambert and Pericard as target men. Connolly and Barnard for the second striker role. Would be awesome for both this league and good if promoted. Patience is a virtue Glasgow Saint, wait to see the full picture of Pardew's Jan plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 :partyman:How do you know that Pericard is the only striker to be signed? Would you be happy if Saints signed Pericard as backup for Lamber AND Lee Barnard to challenge with David Connolly for the 2nd striker role by the end of January? So 4 strikers of Lambert and Pericard as target men. Connolly and Barnard for the second striker role. Would be awesome for both this league and good if promoted. Patience is a virtue Glasgow Saint, wait to see the full picture of Pardew's Jan plans. Yes that would make Glasgow_Saint Happy. Just Pericard = Pericard and Barnard = Pericard + Barnard + a New (decent) CB + new (decent) MF = :partyman: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 How do you know that Pericard is the only striker to be signed? Would you be happy if Saints signed Pericard as backup for Lamber AND Lee Barnard to challenge with David Connolly for the 2nd striker role by the end of January? So 4 strikers of Lambert and Pericard as target men. Connolly and Barnard for the second striker role. Would be awesome for both this league and good if promoted. Patience is a virtue Glasgow Saint, wait to see the full picture of Pardew's Jan plans. I'm happy to wait, but don't pretend that you know ****, because you don't. We'll see who AP buys, but don't pretend that you know what he has in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 How do you know that Pericard is the only striker to be signed? Would you be happy if Saints signed Pericard as backup for Lamber AND Lee Barnard to challenge with David Connolly for the 2nd striker role by the end of January? So 4 strikers of Lambert and Pericard as target men. Connolly and Barnard for the second striker role. Would be awesome for both this league and good if promoted. Patience is a virtue Glasgow Saint, wait to see the full picture of Pardew's Jan plans. I don't think so. I reckon Pericard is cover for Lambert and Connelly plus Papa and Patterson are also in the equation. Barnard might be a red herring - however hope you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 One bad pass or missed shot and he will become the boo boy just like Fuller if we do sign him it's probably Pardews first big mistake it will be a bad move both for the player and the club I was hoping for Pitman or maybe someone like Healy on loan Second mistake. He has already signed Antonio until the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 I'm happy to wait' date=' but don't pretend that you know ****, because you don't. We'll see who AP buys, but don't pretend that you know what he has in mind.[/quote'] Where did I claim to know what was going on? I'm as in the dark as everyone else and never claimed otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 well, if BBC are right, we may hear Pardew's plans for him when he signs tomorrow - snow permitting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 One bad pass or missed shot and he will become the boo boy just like Fuller if we do sign him it's probably Pardews first big mistake it will be a bad move both for the player and the club I was hoping for Pitman or maybe someone like Healy on loan I tend to agree. If you recall he replaced Rasiak as he left for Bolton. Pericard was so poor he made Rasiak seem world class!!! Hopefully he's a lot better now but unconvinced....... plus the Pompey link.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 TBH, I think he could turn out to be a useful addition. When we had him first time, he was coming back from a long time out and we used him as a bits and pieces player, which wouldn't have allowed him to get proper match fitness or any semblance of consistency. When he played regularly at the Skates, alongside Todorov, when they were promoted, he did well and scored goals. I hope he does the same for us as the much maligned Fuller did for Stoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Where did I claim to know what was going on? I'm as in the dark as everyone else and never claimed otherwise. sorry, perhaps its just my impression that you are a **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 Big, strong player, who by all accounts has impressed with Carlisle. probably on 6month deal til end of season, can't see how it can be bad? Same with Antonio who has obvious potential despite being raw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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