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for all us band of brothers fans...I THINK this is another one...set in the Pacific (obviously)...

 

IF it is and they get anywhere near to BoB then it will be good..

 

personally, I would be surprised if it did as, (over here anyway) war stories in Europe like BoB are far more heart felt than those from the pacific

 

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/meet-hanna-shes-like-bourne-if-he-had-lady-parts/

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for all us band of brothers fans...I THINK this is another one...set in the Pacific (obviously)...

 

IF it is and they get anywhere near to BoB then it will be good..

 

personally, I would be surprised if it did as, (over here anyway) war stories in Europe like BoB are far more heart felt than those from the pacific

 

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/meet-hanna-shes-like-bourne-if-he-had-lady-parts/

Being advertised on Sky as being shown in the Spring - probably on Sky Movies with no advert breaks.

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personally, I would be surprised if it did as, (over here anyway) war stories in Europe like BoB are far more heart felt than those from the pacific

 

On the contrary , JG Ballard's 'Empire of the Sun' is perhaps one of the very best (semi-fictional) works to emerge from WWII . The Spielberg film version is excellent and underrated but the novel upon which it is based is truly exceptional in its brutal exposure of the darker truths of human nature when striped of the veneer of civilisation - all as seen through the eyes of a confused and desperately traumatised child . On reflection quite possibly the best book I've ever read .

 

I might add the late great Neville Shute's 'A Town like Alice' as another example of fine writing to emerge from the Pacific war .

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wv9rirLk2kA

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for all us band of brothers fans...I THINK this is another one...set in the Pacific (obviously)...

 

IF it is and they get anywhere near to BoB then it will be good..

 

personally, I would be surprised if it did as, (over here anyway) war stories in Europe like BoB are far more heart felt than those from the pacific

 

 

For a Japanese view on the bombing of Hiroshima and the immediate days following it, seen through the eyes of a boy called Gen, have a look at a series of manga books called Hadashi no Gen (Barefoot Gen) which have been made into films.

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085218/

 

Wiki has some more details on both the books and films

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_Gen

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This looks great.

BoB is one of the best things I've seen on TV.

If only I could get my Blu-Ray version back from my boss.......

 

Was watching a few Blu Ray BoB episodes around the in-laws the other day and was blown away at the clarity and sound on their set up. Now I need to get the box set on Blu Ray...and a Blu Ray player..oh and a jumbo LCD tv too. :(

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For a Japanese view on the bombing of Hiroshima and the immediate days following it, seen through the eyes of a boy called Gen, have a look at a series of manga books called Hadashi no Gen (Barefoot Gen) which have been made into films.

 

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085218/

 

Wiki has some more details on both the books and films

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barefoot_Gen

Also the superb Grave Of The Fireflies based on the fire bombing of Kobe.

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Another show totally over-hyped for ages before it actually airs; I hope it goes against the usual grain of such shows and actually lives up to that hype.

 

Well, it's coming from almost exactly the same production team that did the fantastic 'Band of Brothers' mini-series, so not that much can go wrong.

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just watched it, juries out for me. Not as good as BoB so far, but I'll see a few more episodes first.

 

Bear in mind that the first episode of BoB was the training camp, I had no idea what was coming next once I watched that.

 

If you compare the first 2 episodes, TBF Pacific had a bit more in the way of action...

 

Still.... Jury is indeed out for me too.

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episode 2 was actually quite good, story lines and themes seem to have a much slower build up to them compared to Band of Brothers.

 

Yeah it was, but I guess it is about learning the characters more as this series is based around 3 men, rather than a whole company. I thought the graphics in the combat scenes in episode 2 were particularly good.

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Thought Ep2 was very good. The battle scene towards the end was particularly impressive.

 

However, I dont know why, but for some reason I dont have a "connection" to the main characters like I did with BoB....

 

I think that where BoB is set in an environment that im familiar with , you immediately feel accustomed to the surroundings etc...whereas, the pacific is (and feels) a million miles away.

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However, I dont know why, but for some reason I dont have a "connection" to the main characters like I did with BoB....

 

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for all us band of brothers fans...I THINK this is another one...set in the Pacific (obviously)...

 

IF it is and they get anywhere near to BoB then it will be good..

 

personally, I would be surprised if it did as, (over here anyway) war stories in Europe like BoB are far more heart felt than those from the pacific

 

http://www.beyondhollywood.com/meet-hanna-shes-like-bourne-if-he-had-lady-parts/

IMO anyway

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Recorded this the other night, just watched it now. Have to say, i'm quite impressed. This is the 'difficult second album', and the team behind this really set the bar high with BoB. It's certainly started off a lot quicker than BoB did, although I think I preferred the way that BoB threw us in with the military context at the training camp rather than give background on their home lives ala The Pacific.

 

I have no doubts that the series will improve though, and i'm looking forward to the next episode already!

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Wow, there was a surprise

 

The World is getting smaller.

 

Saw all the advertising for this while back for the JPT. Came back down here and lo and behold it's being shown here as well (but not in HD - hasn't reached here yet).

 

What was REALLY annoying was the fact that I missed the first episode goshdarnit as it was on while I was flying and for the first time I can recall there weren't 500 repeats all week.

 

Can I beg a PM for the first episode download? Can then sit down on Saturday nights after footie on the innernet and watch something decent on telly for a change!

 

Cheers

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I thought the first two episodes showed a great deal of promise; however I am going to reserve overall judgement until I have seen all ten. What is clear is that it isn't Band of Brothers and isn’t meant to be either, although the episode title graphics, Tom Hanks voice overs and the use of the veterans speaking as old men to camera make it comfortingly familiar.

With Band of Brothers the environment that the series was set in was one which we could relate to and in my mind the events which took place were ones that we grew up with some knowledge of. I can speak to my dad about what it was like living in Southampton in the war; from the Blitz to the preparations for the D-Day landings. Most of the episodes were linked to huge set piece events following the invasion of Europe; like D-Day and the battle for Normandy, Operation Market Garden and the Battle of the Bulge, all of which seemed to be the stars of the show rather than the actors themselves

This brings me back to The Pacific. Like a lot of people in the UK I have a somewhat limited knowledge of the war in the Pacific compared to that in Europe. Battling through Peleliu and Okinawa in CoD World at War has been my only recent exposure to what happened. I hope the characters of Leckie, Basilone and Sledge will grow as the series progresses and they as much as the battles they fought in will take centre stage. What is clear from the first episodes is that the war in the Pacific was very different from that in Europe. My impression from the series is that it is no less brutal, perhaps more so in terms of the hand to hand combat, psychologically perhaps more unnerving and most importantly about men not just fighting an enemy but a beautiful, harsh environment in which many suffered from malaria dysentery and other tropical diseases.

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Lol, yes, that bit!! :D

 

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Ja-heeee-sus! Just finished Ep5, all I can say is the 2nd half.... bloody hell, in every sense of the word and the terminology.

 

Faaarking hell......

 

That last 20 mins of Ep5 is as good as ANY war film I've ever seen. From the point when the landing craft comes out of the ship.....to the end of the episode is gripping gripping stuff. Im off to watch it again....

 

To quote one of the Marines from the the start of the episode

 

"It was a nightmare"

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Faaarking hell......

 

That last 20 mins of Ep5 is as good as ANY war film I've ever seen. From the point when the landing craft comes out of the ship.....to the end of the episode is gripping gripping stuff. Im off to watch it again....

 

To quote one of the Marines from the the start of the episode

 

"It was a nightmare"

 

That is exactly it... as soon as the landing craft is readied and ship opens it bowels and the music starts... damn, goosebumps.

 

I was pretty 'meh' about TP but that 20 minutes alone has surpassed anything else I've ever seen of the same genre. Incredible.

 

I'm off to watch it again after Saints :)

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Am up to Episode 4 Thx Crabby.

 

The GF finds it way too realistic and brutal, I get the feeling the bits she's seen aren't even scratching the surface yet.

 

Very good TV, covers lots of grounds but the one thing I find a bit disconcerting is the hopping about in each episode/difficulty in sensing how much time is passing.

 

Just seems it would have benefitted from some indication of (for example) how long they were on New Britain, where the objective and outcome simply seemed to be to get wet and go nuts.

Similar difficulty working out how long Leckie & his chick were getting exercise, was hard to tell if it was two days or 10 months.

 

Minor niggle, enjoying it and more downloading overnight.

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Am up to Episode 4 Thx Crabby.

 

The GF finds it way too realistic and brutal, I get the feeling the bits she's seen aren't even scratching the surface yet.

 

Very good TV, covers lots of grounds but the one thing I find a bit disconcerting is the hopping about in each episode/difficulty in sensing how much time is passing.

 

Just seems it would have benefitted from some indication of (for example) how long they were on New Britain, where the objective and outcome simply seemed to be to get wet and go nuts.

Similar difficulty working out how long Leckie & his chick were getting exercise, was hard to tell if it was two days or 10 months.

 

Minor niggle, enjoying it and more downloading overnight.

 

Totally agree about the chronology of it all....

 

Leckie's antics down under (if you catch my drift) could have done with some indication as to how long they were there for, you would have bought into his depression if you knew he had been there for months etc. From the way it was shot, it seemed as though he met the chick, then moved in with her family the next day !!!

 

Eps 3 & 4 definitely went down the "Thin red line" route by addressing the psychological issues faced by the marines. I must admit, I thought they were a bit weak and the info could have been conveyed in about 20 mins (and not 1 and a half episodes). Especially considering that they have set aside only 10 episodes to tell the story of the whole Pacific campaign

 

At the start of Ep 5 the narrator mentions that "after 4 months of fierce jungle combat in Cape Gloucester", yet all we saw was rain and Leckie ****ing himself so much he had to go to hospital.

 

Hark at me, it sounds as though I’m slagging it off !!! This is actually one of the best TV series I have ever seen, the effects are better than that of BoB but that’s down to 8/9 years of technology advancements in film making. What more can you ask for....guns...bombs...bazookas (in more than one sense of the word!!)..It’s got the lot.

 

Dubai_Phil: Just wait, 30 mins into Ep 5 and it gets medieval....your GF aint seen nothing yet. !!!

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Totally agree about the chronology of it all....

 

Leckie's antics down under (if you catch my drift) could have done with some indication as to how long they were there for, you would have bought into his depression if you knew he had been there for months etc. From the way it was shot, it seemed as though he met the chick, then moved in with her family the next day !!!

 

Eps 3 & 4 definitely went down the "Thin red line" route by addressing the psychological issues faced by the marines. I must admit, I thought they were a bit weak and the info could have been conveyed in about 20 mins (and not 1 and a half episodes). Especially considering that they have set aside only 10 episodes to tell the story of the whole Pacific campaign

 

At the start of Ep 5 the narrator mentions that "after 4 months of fierce jungle combat in Cape Gloucester", yet all we saw was rain and Leckie ****ing himself so much he had to go to hospital.

 

Hark at me, it sounds as though I’m slagging it off !!! This is actually one of the best TV series I have ever seen, the effects are better than that of BoB but that’s down to 8/9 years of technology advancements in film making. What more can you ask for....guns...bombs...bazookas (in more than one sense of the word!!)..It’s got the lot.

 

Dubai_Phil: Just wait, 30 mins into Ep 5 and it gets medieval....your GF aint seen nothing yet. !!!

 

Saw Ep 5 today. That hit the spot well done to the Production team for that.

 

Is it only me & fading eyesight that wonders why the hell they cast only guys with the same colour hair in this? OK I can recognise Leckie & Eugene but the other all seem so close.

 

Suddenly sunk in during Ep 5 though that we are watching the story of 1st Marines and NOT the history of the total war in "The Pacific". Having travelled a lot in SE Asia but not The Pacific and (tried) to understand Geography & History I had never heard of Pavulu (sic) or New Gloucester and was looking at the Time Line and suddenly wondered how the Rising Sun had moved so far back towards Japan (No Guam and is there time for Iwo Jima sort of thing?) I mean here they are already in late 1944 and 5 episodes to go

 

So yes great, it has sent me off to Wiki and that for me is a fecking good thing for a TV show to have done

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Totally agree about the chronology of it all....

 

Leckie's antics down under (if you catch my drift) could have done with some indication as to how long they were there for, you would have bought into his depression if you knew he had been there for months etc. From the way it was shot, it seemed as though he met the chick, then moved in with her family the next day !!!

 

 

 

On a Frivolous note....

 

That Ep 4 says a lot about Aussie Blokes...

 

Yanks arrive, the same day (without so much as a shower) one meets girl on Tram, turns up next day for dinner with Mum & Dad and she is jumping his bones within 20 mins of dinner finishing :D

 

Oh, and as GF pointed out - it was all a bit "one sided" :D:D

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