Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 for L1! All this talk about signing new players & resting players to help our promotion push...... Point is we should already have enough. We have some very good players (for L1) currently playing average - will signing other good players help? On paper we have one of the best teams in L1 - no question. :confused: GKs: Bart & Davis (more than good enough for L1) DEF: James, Mills, Harding, Trottman, Murty, Jaidi, Perry & Thomas (Should be good enough for L1) MID: Hammond, Lallana, Schneiderlin, Wotton, Holmes, Gobern, Antonio (more than good enough for L1) Att: Connolly, Lambert, Papa Waigo, Saga & Patterson (more than good enough for L1)
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Author Posted 28 December, 2009 3 words. Lack of pace!!! Antonio and Papa? You wont find many teams with pace throughout
John B Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 for L1! All this talk about signing new players & resting players to help our promotion push...... Point is we should already have enough. We have some very good players (for L1) currently playing average - will signing other good players help? On paper we have one of the best teams in L1 - no question. :confused: GKs: Bart & Davis (more than good enough for L1) DEF: James, Mills, Harding, Trottman, Murty, Jaidi, Perry & Thomas (Should be good enough for L1) MID: Hammond, Lallana, Schneiderlin, Wotton, Holmes, Gobern, Antonio (more than good enough for L1) Att: Connolly, Lambert, Papa Waigo, Saga & Patterson (more than good enough for L1) I agree and the team is good enough without the ten point deduction we would be in the play off positions We are in the last four of the JPT.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 I agree and the team is good enough without the ten point deduction we would be in the play off positions and the last four of the JPT. Come on John play fair,facts are not allowed especially to those who barely go to a game
CLOTH EARS Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 I have a feeling that Trotman may stay till the end of the season and Antonio will be going back Melis already has gone back to Chelsea. I think we will be seeing at least 3 new faces in January.
S-Clarke Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 I have a feeling that Trotman may stay till the end of the season and Antonio will be going back Melis already has gone back to Chelsea. I think we will be seeing at least 3 new faces in January. There will be 6 new signings at least, according to one of the more ''itk'' posters on the site.
krissyboy31 Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Antonio and Papa? You wont find many teams with pace throughout Papa's not particularly quick. He's ok (pace wise) in the same way Connolly is. Antonio is quick, in a headless chicken type of way but we lack pace in the centre of midfield and along the back four.
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Nothing wrong at all with wanting to strengthen our squad and who says we are not good enough for league 1 ? the point is we are trying to build a squad to gain promotion, its just that promotion may not happen this year
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Author Posted 28 December, 2009 (edited) I agree and the team is good enough without the ten point deduction we would be in the play off positions We are in the last four of the JPT. Without the -10 we would be squeezing into the playoffs by virtue of goal difference - still a poor return considering the team/squad we have. Perhaps I expect too much, or you've become content with 2nd best? Edited 28 December, 2009 by Glasgow_Saint
John B Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Without the -10 we would be squeezing into the playoffs by virtue of goal difference - still a poor return considering the team/squad we have. Perhaps I expect too much, or you've become content with 2nd best? I just dont think we are as good as a lot of people think we are. When we go up we need to be able to compete with teams in the CCC and stay there - I dont think many of this team are quality CCC players
CLOTH EARS Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Papa's not particularly quick. He's ok (pace wise) in the same way Connolly is. Antonio is quick, in a headless chicken type of way but we lack pace in the centre of midfield and along the back four. I disagree with you about Papa, i think Papa is very quick. I think Papa has improved as a player since he's been here, he is certainly worth keeping in my opinion. I agree with you about Antonio, he is quick, but he is erratic. He has had a few really good games such as MK dons at home and Bristol Rovers away in the FA Cup, but in my opinion he comes up a little short in terms of quality.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Author Posted 28 December, 2009 I just dont think we are as good as a lot of people think we are. When we go up we need to be able to compete with teams in the CCC and stay there - I dont think many of this team are quality CCC players Some are good enough for the CCC - Connolly, Lambert, Harding, Davis, Bart, Jaidi, Waigo, Lallana, Hammond and even Spiderman are good enough imho How many L1 sides have 10+ players good enough for the league above?
John B Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Some are good enough for the CCC - Connolly, Lambert, Harding, Davis, Bart, Jaidi, Waigo, Lallana, Hammond and even Spiderman are good enough. How many L1 sides have 10+ players good enough for the league above? You cant play two goalies but I said quality players
forever a red and white Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Without the -10 we would be squeezing into the playoffs by virtue of goal difference - still a poor return considering the team/squad we have. Perhaps I expect too much, or you've become content with 2nd best? the squad is new give it time.
JustMike Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 bit early to be getting the razor blades out imo
krissyboy31 Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 bit early to be getting the razor blades out imo Absolutely. A win against Huddersfield and there'll be a completely different perspective (AGAIN).
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Author Posted 28 December, 2009 Absolutely. A win against Huddersfield and there'll be a completely different perspective (AGAIN). No razor blades here - I just expected more. Started the season 10 points off the playoffs - 24 games and big money spent later and we are still 10 points behind! Started the season 10 points off top spot - 24 games and big money spent later and we are now 28 points behind!
krissyboy31 Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 No razor blades here - I just expected more. Started the season 10 points off the playoffs - 24 games and big money spent later and we are still 10 points behind! Started the season 10 points off top spot - 24 games and big money spent later and we are now 28 points behind! This is all true but the start we made meant that the most we could realistically expect was to make the play-offs in 5th or 6th position and that IMO that is still on. Leeds, Charlton, Norwich and Colchester are not catchable but the rest most certainly are, with the team we have plus one or two tweaks here and there.
70's Mike Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Disagree that our midfield is good enough, we do not have, imo, effective, both home and away, wide players in midfield.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Author Posted 28 December, 2009 Disagree that our midfield is good enough, we do not have, imo, effective, both home and away, wide players in midfield. Not many better midfields in L1!
70's Mike Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Not many better midfields in L1! disagree to many sides dominate us even Exeter with 10 men outplayed us in midfield for long periods.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 disagree to many sides dominate us even Exeter with 10 men outplayed us in midfield for long periods. Agree Mike, can't put my finger on it but I think our problem stems from midfield.
Thedelldays Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 we are doing well...but not fantastic.. sure we have strung a few runs together..but when a team like saints (with what we have in league 1) goes up against exeter we SHOULD be winning.. our form against the boys at the top worries me..as I want us to be better than them
S-Clarke Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 our form against the boys at the top worries me..as I want us to be better than them We will be eventually (maybe even as soon as the end of January), and that's what is exciting - we'll only carry on improving now.
70's Mike Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Agree Mike, can't put my finger on it but I think our problem stems from midfield. Dunc i think the wide two players of the midfield 4 are to inconsistent, Lallana , Antonio, Papa, OFFER lots going forward but are very unreliable when under the cosh. Hence why i have stood up for Lloyd James when he has played at right back because the support he gets is poor, Dan Harding has had the same problem but gets by because of his experience.
John B Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 (edited) we are doing well...but not fantastic.. sure we have strung a few runs together..but when a team like saints (with what we have in league 1) goes up against exeter we SHOULD be winning.. our form against the boys at the top worries me..as I want us to be better than them I wonder how Colchester pay their players on a gate of 8000 Edited 28 December, 2009 by John B
S-Clarke Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Agree Mike, can't put my finger on it but I think our problem stems from midfield. i think we lack natural out-and-out width, especially on the left and at times play from our midfield is either lopsided or very central and crowded. Our midfield needs to learn how to spread the play more often - too often at the moment we are just launching it from midfield into blind alleys, or straight down a strikers throat in a central position. Games are often won by getting in behind a full back and crossing the ball. We won lots and lots of games when we had Antionio doing that...but he's kind of been sussed out in many ways, so we look less effective. I'd love us to sign a real pacey out and out winger in January...
Thedelldays Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 I wonder how Colchester pay there team on a gate of 8000 just highlights a fantastic job Boothrooyd (boo boy hoof ball) is doing
70's Mike Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 i think we lack natural out-and-out width, especially on the left and at times play from our midfield is either lopsided or very central and crowded. Our midfield needs to learn how to spread the play more often - too often at the moment we are just launching it from midfield into blind alleys, or straight down a strikers throat in a central position. Games are often won by getting in behind a full back and crossing the ball. We won lots and lots of games when we had Antionio doing that...but he's kind of been sussed out in many ways, so we look less effective. I'd love us to sign a real pacey out and out winger in January... as long as he gets up and back
mynameisthehulk Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Some are good enough for the CCC - Connolly, Lambert, Harding, Davis, Bart, Jaidi, Waigo, Lallana, Hammond and even Spiderman are good enough imho How many L1 sides have 10+ players good enough for the league above? Not many better midfields in L1! How do you know this?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Author Posted 28 December, 2009 How do you know this? Football knowledge - HTH
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Author Posted 28 December, 2009 disagree to many sides dominate us even Exeter with 10 men outplayed us in midfield for long periods. These are questions for AP - the midfield we have should be good enough
ponto1963 Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Come on John play fair,facts are not allowed especially to those who barely go to a game :D:D:D
mynameisthehulk Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Football knowledge - HTH I've not seen any evidence of that in over 5000 posts. HTH
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Author Posted 28 December, 2009 I've not seen any evidence of that in over 5000 posts. HTH That's low! so low low low low
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