saint lard Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Damn it.... All over them like a rash apparently in the second half after a really poor first period. Onwards and upwards,let's see what January brings.
gaz Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Could have had a worse Christmas period, bring on January!
alpine_saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 For me, if there is such a difference in performance between first half and second half, AP has got his starting selection and/or motivation/preparation desperately wrong. Yes, we are winning more games than in recent years and we feel good, but something significant is missing from the team still.
Plumstead_Saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 B*gger Just when I'd got used to us pulling it back in the dying minutes of the game. Oh well...
Son of Bob Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Disappointing defeat today. all comments here please.
Johnny Bognor Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Could have had a worse Christmas period, bring on January! Indeed. We won the xmas period 4-3 on aggregate
trousers Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Boxing Day blues. When was the last time we won on Boxing Day?
Saint Without a Halo Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Damn it.... Unfortunately looking more likely that our local derby nexyt year is Bournemouth and not Poopey! We need to sort out our defence we cannot depend on getting 3 every match even though we make the chances! We also need to find form against the top 8 sides so far our only win in the league against any of them is MK Dons!
S-Clarke Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Too little, too late. bit ****ed off with the first half from us, sounded totally half hearted and you know that if you start games like that, you very rarely get anything out of them. I still think we've got a long way to go in terms of quality in certain positions, we've got some good individuals...but the depth isn't there and i don't really think Jaidi has a solid partner...that should be priority for january IMO.
benjii Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Pathetic. Haha, brilliant. Good one Denzil. You've gazumped us all. We were expecting something with an iota of intelligence and you're pulled the rug from under us. You're a right legend.
corky morris Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 FFS we lost! From where we were in August we are miles better, but we still need more work. We were not good on Boxing day, but this is not the end of the world. We still have a slim chance of the play offs, but I think this & the Leeds result gives Pardew more ammunition to get better players in. Onwards & Upwards.
Denzil Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Boxing Day blues. When was the last time we won on Boxing Day? It isn't Boxing Day.
InvictaSaint Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 We're doing well, getting better, showing top 6 form, but we will lose games - that is the Saints of December 2009. We have come such a long way in 4 months and have the promise of signings next month, so we are well placed to make further progress. Not too gutted about today; second in 48 hours and away to a top of the table side. People need to be realistic in their expectations. We may still make the play offs, we may not, but all along people have been saying that next season is the season we take this league by storm so anything over and above that this season is a bonus. Bottom line - we aren't there yet, but we are heading in the right direction. Happy New Year one and all.
Weston Saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Ok another loss against one of the top sides but I am less concerned. We had 57% of possession. We had 8 shots on target against their 5 We know we can score goals. Just did not happen for us today, particularly in the 2nd half. We have dropped to 13th but we are on target.
Spudders Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 (edited) .... Edited 28 December, 2009 by Spudders
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 For me, if there is such a difference in performance between first half and second half, AP has got his starting selection and/or motivation/preparation desperately wrong. Yes, we are winning more games than in recent years and we feel good, but something significant is missing from the team still. Yes but we have defensive problems, plus APs insistence on finding Lloyd James a place somewhere or other for every game, plus his suicidal penchant for starting Antonio who can run around all day against old heads like U's and produce f*ck all.I don't know what he has against Papa starting but it's becoming a problem,especially when Connolly doesn't start either.
alpine_saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Why cant we ever win the battle of wills/tactics/strength against teams managed by the likes of Aidy Boothroyd and Billy Davies ?
niceandfriendly Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Yes, we are winning more games than in recent years and we feel good, but something significant is missing from the team still. Yep, asolutely. Surprise, surprise, we're not the finished article just yet. But of course, we probably should have been the finished article after what, 2 or 3 games in under AP? We have some funny fans, we really do. It's a shame we lost today, but the U's are a good team and we have an exciting January ahead. It's still a great time to be a Saints fan.
benjii Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Too little, too late. bit ****ed off with the first half from us, sounded totally half hearted and you know that if you start games like that, you very rarely get anything out of them. I still think we've got a long way to go in terms of quality in certain positions, we've got some good individuals...but the depth isn't there and i don't really think Jaidi has a solid partner...that should be priority for january IMO. I'm annoyed with Pardew's team selection. A 3 of Hammond, James and Schneiderlin is not going to work. Schneiderlin and James are far too pedestrian to pose any threat to the other side. If we're going to play that system then Wotton has to come in to allow the other two to push on more. I would also like to see us play that with Lallana as one of the three and some genuine width on the left. ------------------Wotton-------------- -----Hammond---------Lallana-------- Also, Antonio should not be starting. But, although I am annoyed, I am not a plonker so will simply leave at it that without saying that we are pathetic.
Saint Without a Halo Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 (edited) 20 points of the play offs and back into the bottom half of the table again! Oh well lets hope we can sort the leaky defence out in the Jan window and push on. Another 38 points in the 2nd half of the season and we could just sneak into the top 6 Edited 28 December, 2009 by Saint Without a Halo
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Anyway. I don't want to hear anything about play-offs today.
alpine_saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Yes but we have defensive problems, plus APs insistence on finding Lloyd James a place somewhere or other for every game, plus his suicidal penchant for starting Antonio who can run around all day against old heads like U's and produce f*ck all.I don't know what he has against Papa starting but it's becoming a problem,especially when Connolly doesn't start either. What is it with Saints managers and their little b*m-ch*ms ???
Ewell Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Whilst disapointing, you have to respect where Colchester are in the league and their good home form. We are far from the finished article but this result is not a Swindon or Huddersfield. My money is on us still making the playoffs and the next 4 league games are crucial!
SuperSAINT Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 I still think we've got a long way to go in terms of quality in certain positions, we've got some good individuals...but the depth isn't there and i don't really think Jaidi has a solid partner...that should be priority for january IMO. Agreed. The 18 man squad needs strengthening. We've still got lots to work on - I don't think we've beaten any of the top six in the league this season have we?
benjii Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Ok another loss against one of the top sides but I am less concerned. We had 57% of possession. We had 8 shots on target against their 5 We know we can score goals. Just did not happen for us today, particularly in the 2nd half. We have dropped to 13th but we are on target. This is correct + we still have scope for significant imporvement in January.
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Ok another loss against one of the top sides but I am less concerned. We had 57% of possession. We had 8 shots on target against their 5 We know we can score goals. Just did not happen for us today, particularly in the 2nd half. We have dropped to 13th but we are on target. On target for what? Oh right being Champions in League next season.
kpturner Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Agreed. The 18 man squad needs strengthening. We've still got lots to work on - I don't think we've beaten any of the top six in the league this season have we?MK Dons were top 3 when we beat them weren't they?
pele Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 ? 20 points you do lose some games you know Everybody doe's!!!
benjii Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Agreed. The 18 man squad needs strengthening. We've still got lots to work on - I don't think we've beaten any of the top six in the league this season have we? No, but we'd be in it without the penalty.
alpine_saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Yep, asolutely. Surprise, surprise, we're not the finished article just yet. But of course, we probably should have been the finished article after what, 2 or 3 games in under AP? We have some funny fans, we really do. Look, I am willing to wait 2 seasons to get into the CCC, really I am. But AP is trying to build a team, and I fear he will be starting again in June if we dont do it this year, because Lallana, Lambert and a few others will be off. This has all the feell about it for me of Burley having had all that money to spend in the play-off season but knowing the consequence if we didnt make it,
Dalek2003 Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Perspective please. We ARE STILL in the building process. We MUST learn from these defeats and strengthen the team accordingly.
S-Clarke Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 20 points of the play offs and back into the bottom half of the table again! Oh well lets hope we can sort the leaky defence out in the Jan window and push on. Another 38 points in the 2nd half of the season and we could just sneak into the top 6
Under Weststand Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Until we sort the defence out once & for all we will continue to lose these sort of games. Now I thought the team was right at the start to try to compete against a physical side & protect our back 4. It proved wrong & throwing caution to the wind we were a real threat 2nd half, however it exposed our leaky defence & cost us in the end. I know its not all doom & gloom their Keeper made what sounded like at least 3 blinding saves & on another day we may have got back into it. Hopefully we can get the defence sorted in January.
SNSUN Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Colchester was always going to be a tough place to go. Moving on, a nice break now with the FA Cup, and the excitement of a transfer window for Pardew to strengthen - and not in a hurry like at the beginning of the season. By the end of January, we'll be better placed to judge how the season will pan out, both in terms of squad strength and January results. I'm looking forward to it.
maxi_sopez Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 20 points of the play offs and back into the bottom half of the table again! Oh well lets hope we can sort the leaky defence out in the Jan window and push on. Another 38 points in the 2nd half of the season and we could just sneak into the top 6 what ?
S-Clarke Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Pardew - ''those 2 goals have cost us today, it's been a problem for us all season, conceding bad goals. We will try to lock that down once and for all in January"
Stepgar Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Who would have take this position at the start of the season. only losing 6 games so far, positive goal difference, scoring lots of goals! yes please. however frustrating it is it does show we lack depth in the squad. as others have said January should be quite interesting.
InvictaSaint Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Look, I am willing to wait 2 seasons to get into the CCC, really I am. But AP is trying to build a team, and I fear he will be starting again in June if we dont do it this year, because Lallana, Lambert and a few others will be off. This has all the feell about it for me of Burley having had all that money to spend in the play-off season but knowing the consequence if we didnt make it, I know why you might be feeling like this Alps, but I don't fear what you fear, I really don't. The regime Burley was working under was one which needed results far more quickly and which consequently put more pressure on the team manager. They [Wilde et al] bet the house, garden and granny's jewellery on us going up and knew it was either win or bust. None of us can say that Liebherr and Cortese have shown any sign of behaving in the same way; quite the opposite in fact. We don't have to sell, we can probably match CCC wages and beyond, so AP doesn't have to worry in the way Burley must have [if he was capable of such anxiety :-) ]. If we don't go up at the end of next season, maybe certain players will move on, but I look at us now in a position of strength, built on foundations of stone, whereas Burley's Saints were running on quicksand.
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 We'll win more than we lose so I wont cry about todays result, it sounded like a good 2nd half display let down by their keeper playing a blinder. Fully expect loads of knicker twisting on here though.
hackedoff Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 If we had another 45 minutes we would have won this, but alas for the second away game running the first half was wasted on the wrong formation/players and being too negative. Do not ever start with Antonio, he is a second half impact plyer only.
alpine_saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Is Papa so unfit that he can only be thrown on for 30mins as an impact sub ? Or is AP suffering from the usual "Saintsmanagerblindspotitis" that we've come to know and love ?
Window Cleaner Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Pardew blaming shipping goals for our failings all season. Will be sorted in January.Says we are not a play-off side yet.Loans-Mellis gone,Trotman yet to be decided next week, Antonio to be seen.,
kpturner Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 "We are not a play-off side yet" - Pardew post match. "Mellis gone back already, no decision on Antonio, Trotman decision this week" Implies Trotman decision is in our hands.
benjii Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Who would have take this position at the start of the season. only losing 6 games so far, positive goal difference, scoring lots of goals! yes please. however frustrating it is it does show we lack depth in the squad. as others have said January should be quite interesting. Quite right. We have to remember that the defence Pardew inherited looked like: James----Perry/Lancashire---Thomas----Molyneux/Mills
Saints Warrior Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 When Colchester 2nd goal went in Sky Sports said `game over for the Saints`, interesting to see those who went why that could have been said...was it that bad. How we got a win vs Exeter was probally due to them not taking chances but today its not the case. Quite often Saints get away with letting in more due to the opponents forwards not hitting the target. I will settle for more the same in Jan...and a big 3-0 away win at MKD for the JTP. Saints in a better position than I expected at this point so who know maybe 1 forward and a defender in Jan window will help!
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