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Without wishing to relight the blue touch paper and start the whole shenanigans again, has anyone seen or heard of him at all ???

 

Which is exactly what you have done. Why not leave this behind now? It is done, we have a new set up and a bright future, why wind up the Usual Suspects? Just let sleeping dogs lie and be thankful that we have someone with some cash behind us at last.

 

And whilst the feelgood factor has returned, we need to remember that there is still much to do. It is one thing winning matches in the 3rd division, but we need to get back to a sustained period in the Premiership and make Cup Finals (so no Duncan, it was not all bad before).

 

Let sleeping dogs lie? What in case they return to haunt us in whatever form they re-emerge? No thanks.

 

Good to remind ourselves occassionally, and besides it never ceases to amaze me that the only posters on here who say such things are those that, well, failed to stand up and be counted when their support was needed perhaps? Failed to acknowledge failure was returning back in the summer of 2008 when operation kids and cloggies was dooming us to further failure.

 

I think we should remember, so we don't allow such mistakes and those who would make them to ever return again. We got our club back eventually - but it cost us a League too many and was largely down to Barclays Bank to be fair.

 

I like watching posters who allowed a failure to return again squirm.

 

Still, onwards and upwards...! We will never forget nonetheless.

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Without wishing to relight the blue touch paper and start the whole shenanigans again, has anyone seen or heard of him at all ???

Has he been spotted at any match, home or away ?

Does anybody live near him and perhaps saw him in the supermarket ?

Anybody go shooting with him ?

Anybody meet him through business ?

Just interested as he seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth !

 

WHY ???

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He was a right .. orrible little dictator and as my old mate, jonah would always prove to us time and again..Rupes had no idea about finance or football...I am so glad the piece of shiiiite has passed on and no longer involved with the Saints. He had us over and was helped by some right little artists. Still waiting for one of his foot soldiers to explain the alleged financial expertise he dosen't appear to have. God bless his little helpers on this forum..some still loitering with the usual rubbish against anything Saints.

 

Good riddance to him and his little sheep.

COYRs

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"Liitle sheep"??? You are a strange person Ottery. The whole point about the Lowe debate is that he was not as bad as you and others would have us believe. !0 years of Prem football, a taste of European football again and a Cup Final proved that he hasn't been a total failure. To keep a club like us competitive on crowds of 15k was no mean feat whilst at the Dell. When we went down we had a decent squad, many of who are still playing Premiership football. Loew made some mistake with his managers but also brought in people like Strachan. For someone who didn't know anything about football he turned down a request from Strchan for a certain keeper and suggested Niemi instead...not bad for someone who didn't have a clue. As for knowing anything about football, what previous experience do our new owners have Ottery?

 

If you had bothered to read any of Jonah's posts you would have seen that he wasn't one of Lowe' so called foot soldiers. All he was trying to do was to point out that Lowe had a tough job keeping the club afloat and competitive within the boundaries of the budget and was trying to redress the very one sided debate on here.

 

Your post shows that you have learned nothing and are still harbouring some pretty silly prejudices.

 

Yes Lowe made mistakes, yes he is probably not a very nice fellow (have you met NC by the way?) but to try and pretend that his time as SFC was a total disaster is nonsense.

 

You are the loiterer Ottery. Still pedling your tired and flawd old agenda.

 

Lowe has gone. We have new owners. Get over it mate and move on.

 

If they can provide us with 10 years of Prem football and a Cup Final as Lowe did I will be well chuffed.

 

 

 

 

Baaaa

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"Liitle sheep"??? You are a strange person Ottery. The whole point about the Lowe debate is that he was not as bad as you and others would have us believe. !0 years of Prem football, a taste of European football again and a Cup Final proved that he hasn't been a total failure. To keep a club like us competitive on crowds of 15k was no mean feat whilst at the Dell. When we went down we had a decent squad, many of who are still playing Premiership football. Loew made some mistake with his managers but also brought in people like Strachan. For someone who didn't know anything about football he turned down a request from Strchan for a certain keeper and suggested Niemi instead...not bad for someone who didn't have a clue. As for knowing anything about football, what previous experience do our new owners have Ottery?

 

If you had bothered to read any of Jonah's posts you would have seen that he wasn't one of Lowe' so called foot soldiers. All he was trying to do was to point out that Lowe had a tough job keeping the club afloat and competitive within the boundaries of the budget and was trying to redress the very one sided debate on here.

 

Your post shows that you have learned nothing and are still harbouring some pretty silly prejudices.

 

Yes Lowe made mistakes, yes he is probably not a very nice fellow (have you met NC by the way?) but to try and pretend that his time as SFC was a total disaster is nonsense.

 

You are the loiterer Ottery. Still pedling your tired and flawd old agenda.

 

Lowe has gone. We have new owners. Get over it mate and move on.

 

If they can provide us with 10 years of Prem football and a Cup Final as Lowe did I will be well chuffed.

 

 

 

 

 

Baaaa

 

Lowe had a tough job? LOL! Look at what the new owners have on their plate and what their manager has to endure - a 10 point deficit and League 1 football...!!

 

They're doing fine!

 

We should have lost Lowe many many years ago before he and his plc could be allowed to put us into this position. Lowe shouldve sold the plc to one owner whilst we were in the Premiership.

 

He didnt, we fell and his arrogance could only finally be defeated by the bank who pulled the rug finally from an inept, self indulgent and frankly out of his depth chairman.

 

Anyway, Happy New Year SOG! Here's to the future... it's finally bright... its finally Southampton FC again!!

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Lowe had a tough job? LOL! Look at what the new owners have on their plate and what their manager has to endure - a 10 point deficit and League 1 football...!!

 

They're doing fine!

 

We should have lost Lowe many many years ago before he and his plc could be allowed to put us into this position. Lowe shouldve sold the plc to one owner whilst we were in the Premiership.

 

He didnt, we fell and his arrogance could only finally be defeated by the bank who pulled the rug finally from an inept, self indulgent and frankly out of his depth chairman.

 

Anyway, Happy New Year SOG! Here's to the future... it's finally bright... its finally Southampton FC again!!

 

LOL less than 50 posts and the Lowe debate is reignited. What a suprise :rolleyes:

 

Lowe did have a tough job (and initially didn't make a bad fist of it) running this club in the Premiership off the TV money, but unfortunately some horrendous decisions and the bloke's sheer arrogance undid a lot of the good things he did and a lot of people on here forget.

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LOL less than 50 posts and the Lowe debate is reignited. What a suprise :rolleyes:

 

Lowe did have a tough job (and initially didn't make a bad fist of it) running this club in the Premiership off the TV money, but unfortunately some horrendous decisions and the bloke's sheer arrogance undid a lot of the good things he did and a lot of people on here forget.

 

I dont think there is a debate... the man was as you said arrogant and latterly proven to be inept. There's simply no debate about it.

 

Question posed is 'Where's Wally?'

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"Liitle sheep"??? You are a strange person Ottery. The whole point about the Lowe debate is that he was not as bad as you and others would have us believe. !0 years of Prem football, a taste of European football again and a Cup Final proved that he hasn't been a total failure. To keep a club like us competitive on crowds of 15k was no mean feat whilst at the Dell. When we went down we had a decent squad, many of who are still playing Premiership football. Loew made some mistake with his managers but also brought in people like Strachan. For someone who didn't know anything about football he turned down a request from Strchan for a certain keeper and suggested Niemi instead...not bad for someone who didn't have a clue. As for knowing anything about football, what previous experience do our new owners have Ottery?

 

If you had bothered to read any of Jonah's posts you would have seen that he wasn't one of Lowe' so called foot soldiers. All he was trying to do was to point out that Lowe had a tough job keeping the club afloat and competitive within the boundaries of the budget and was trying to redress the very one sided debate on here.

 

Your post shows that you have learned nothing and are still harbouring some pretty silly prejudices.

 

Yes Lowe made mistakes, yes he is probably not a very nice fellow (have you met NC by the way?) but to try and pretend that his time as SFC was a total disaster is nonsense.

 

You are the loiterer Ottery. Still pedling your tired and flawd old agenda.

 

Lowe has gone. We have new owners. Get over it mate and move on.

 

If they can provide us with 10 years of Prem football and a Cup Final as Lowe did I will be well chuffed.

 

Baaaa

 

I know there is no convincing you but ultimately two relegations outweigh any good that was done and for every Niemi there is an Augustin Delgado and failure to agree terms with Emanuel Adebayor...

 

So on this I will not argue.

 

However, the idea that the current regime should be judged by the same standard of performance as Rupert Lowe is grossly unfair.

 

Lowe inherited a team who had been settled in the first division long before his arrival (18 years), and in fact had performed admirably better before his arrival than after. The current owners inherited a business in administration and are conducting business turnaround.

 

If the current regime reach the Premier League it dwarfs the Lowe era achievements.

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I know there is no convincing you but ultimately two relegations outweigh any good that was done and for every Niemi there is an Augustin Delgado and failure to agree terms with Emanuel Adebayor...

 

So on this I will not argue.

 

However, the idea that the current regime should be judged by the same standard of performance as Rupert Lowe is grossly unfair.

 

Lowe inherited a team who had been settled in the first division long before his arrival (18 years), and in fact had performed admirably better before his arrival than after. The current owners inherited a business in administration and are conducting business turnaround.

 

If the current regime reach the Premier League it dwarfs the Lowe era achievements.

 

Excellent summary. Some people wont be told though.

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However, the idea that the current regime should be judged by the same standard of performance as Rupert Lowe is grossly unfair.

 

Lowe inherited a team who had been settled in the first division long before his arrival (18 years), and in fact had performed admirably better before his arrival than after. The current owners inherited a business in administration and are conducting business turnaround.

 

If the current regime reach the Premier League it dwarfs the Lowe era achievements.

 

Personally I think what you have written is more grossly unfair... The team performed better before he arrived than after? In case you have forgotton by the mid 90s we had fallen from where we were in the early 80s to be a perrenial relegation contender who would have been relegated years before Lowe ever walked into town if it hadn't been for MLT. Lowe dragged the club into the 21st century both on and off the field and despite MLT coming to the end ofhis career the club actually improved and became a mid-table or better team under Hoddle and WGS. Still I guess that fact doesn't sit well with the Lowe is the anti-Christ argument.....

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If ever anything reeked of bollix with a capital B, this has to be it, just a shame you could not fit in the 3rd aunt removed into the story line. The biggest financial bust in modern times, banks hovering on the brink of extinction and a company in the financial sector under performs?

 

Two new year resolutions required on your part

 

1. Get a sense of humour transplant

2. Research your idols current company performance in the sector to assess the viewpoint of his shareholders - I recommend Hemscott

 

I had my opportunity to let Mr Lowe have the benefit of my wisdom at a reserve match last season. This was the only one he attended that I am aware of but I suspected he might be there to plead for his job as I had been tipped off that the Administrator would be there also. Regretably there is no bar at Staplewood or I would have pre-empted the shareholder.

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I know there is no convincing you but ultimately two relegations outweigh any good that was done and for every Niemi there is an Augustin Delgado and failure to agree terms with Emanuel Adebayor...

 

So on this I will not argue.

 

However, the idea that the current regime should be judged by the same standard of performance as Rupert Lowe is grossly unfair.

 

Lowe inherited a team who had been settled in the first division long before his arrival (18 years), and in fact had performed admirably better before his arrival than after. The current owners inherited a business in administration and are conducting business turnaround.

 

If the current regime reach the Premier League it dwarfs the Lowe era achievements.

 

 

I doubt whether ML would have invested in SFC without the facilities including the Stadium which became available during Lowe's tenure.

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He's currently on a tour of England's private schools teaching their hockey teams how to play soggy biscuits.

 

That made I larf...

 

Drove past Lowe's local village recently,no sign of His Rupertship but gave the customary "V" sign anyway.

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I met a couple in the pub last week whos children go to school with his children, he couldn't speak highly enough about him, I told him a few home truths and put him straight, and I tried to get the name and address of the school so I could do a ransome, but he declined.

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He was a right .. orrible little dictator and as my old mate, jonah would always prove to us time and again..Rupes had no idea about finance or football...I am so glad the piece of shiiiite has passed on and no longer involved with the Saints. He had us over and was helped by some right little artists. Still waiting for one of his foot soldiers to explain the alleged financial expertise he dosen't appear to have. God bless his little helpers on this forum..some still loitering with the usual rubbish against anything Saints.

 

Good riddance to him and his little sheep.

COYRs

 

Strange that Jonah doesn't post anymore isn't it?

 

No, I guess it's not.

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I know there is no convincing you but ultimately two relegations outweigh any good that was done and for every Niemi there is an Augustin Delgado and failure to agree terms with Emanuel Adebayor...

 

So on this I will not argue.

 

However, the idea that the current regime should be judged by the same standard of performance as Rupert Lowe is grossly unfair.

 

Lowe inherited a team who had been settled in the first division long before his arrival (18 years), and in fact had performed admirably better before his arrival than after. The current owners inherited a business in administration and are conducting business turnaround.

 

If the current regime reach the Premier League it dwarfs the Lowe era achievements.

 

I don't deny that the two relegations have been very damaging. They have also damaged clubs like Leeds, Charlton and Norwich, none of whom have been run by Lowe.

 

Yes the club was settled. It was also in a hoplelessly outdated ground. To keep a club like ours going in the top flight for 10 years was no mean feat. If Lowe was useless and knew nothing about football why did we not get relegated and go into admin earlier?

 

Every club has it successes and failures ij the tranfer market, it just seems that in our club it is okay to slag one man off for the failures but not give him proase for the successes (which would imply that he does know something about what he is doing). If Delgado had been fit we would have had a World Class striker for a brgain £3m. I seem to remeber McMenemy splashing out £400K for Charlie George (a fortune then) who was actulaly crocked and finisshed at that point - it happens to everyone.

 

You can only judge anyone by their results. If the current owners don't get this club promoted you can bet your life cyber jockeys like Alpine will soon be calling for their heads.

 

But don't you find it interesting that Lowe is pilloried about supposedly knowing nothing about football or running a football club yet the Alpine's of this worls have not raised a peep about the fact that neither ML or NC know anything about it either?

 

Same old double standards. Still, as many of you would say, they won't be told.

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Last I heard Rupert was putting together a rescue package for the Fish Fu**ers.................or was that just a dream?

 

LOL! They dont need Rupert to go down this season... still would be nice though. :)

 

Come on SOG admit it, if Lowe took over Pompey you'd be chuffed to bits in the same way Pompey fans have been chuffed to see Rupert in charge of Saints. I'll never forget at SMS when he came on the big screen TVs by accident and the Pompey fans cheered for him!! They knew as did we that he was wrecking our club.

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I was happy as anyone to see Rupert go, but I haven't forgotten that he did do some good things for the club

 

Rupes biggest mistake was his disastrous managerial decisions after WGS left.

This contributed to our relegation & he never had the personal finances to bankroll our return

 

I don't have an intense hatred for him like some fans clearly do

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I was happy as anyone to see Rupert go, but I haven't forgotten that he did do some good things for the club

 

Rupes biggest mistake was his disastrous managerial decisions after WGS left.

This contributed to our relegation & he never had the personal finances to bankroll our return

 

I don't have an intense hatred for him like some fans clearly do

 

That sums up my attitude too

 

Although after Strachan left the team were on the way down

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Considering the stick he got when he posted warnings about The Wilde Bunch I really don't blame him.

 

You haven't got a clue sadoldgit.

 

Last week i had a fiver on Papa Waigo to score the last goal against Exeter. With 5 minutes to go i had £40 waiting for me at Ladbrokes. With seconds to go Lambert hit the bar. I cheered the fact he missed. I collected my £40 five minutes later.

 

For Jonah it was a similar scenario with him caring more about himself than the good of SFC.

 

If ever there was a good reason why PLC's and football are a bad idea you only need to look to Jonah.

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But don't you find it interesting that Lowe is pilloried about supposedly knowing nothing about football or running a football club yet the Alpine's of this worls have not raised a peep about the fact that neither ML or NC know anything about it either?

 

Same old double standards. Still, as many of you would say, they won't be told.

 

I thought that Cortese had some experience in sport when he was in banking?

 

But whether he did or not, I think the approach they have taken shows that they understand football considerably better than Rupert did (although it is patently early days).

 

Like you, I don't think he was the devil incarnate, but many of his decisions were baffling and in later years downright bizarre.

 

The latter of these contributed directly to relegation and the former sure didn't help.

 

It is summed up for me by Le Tiss when he says we paid £1m for a radio station and sold it for £1...

 

For me, this was always Rupert's problem - an inability to understand that first and foremost football is about the 11 players on the park and the more you pay them the better they will be, the better your team will be and the more likely you are to be successful.

 

This investment around the fringes deprived the club of decent players that would themselves have increased revenue by virtue of success of the pitch.

 

We paid £1m for a radio station but never more than £4m on a player. That is quite telling and shows the balance of where Rupert believed it was best to invest. We never invested fresh capital in the team (only recycled revenue from sales) yet we invested fresh capital all over the shop on frippery.

 

The history of football shows that if you invest in the team, most often it will create the revenue you need, not vice versa. We may not like it, but it's true.

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He is inside either Super or Sammy Saint plotting against us all! waiting for the moment when he gets rumbled and the Mascots head is removed to say "If it wasn't for you pesky supporters I would have succeeded".

 

Huntingdon puts it about right....................... as do a few others when they say time to move on.

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jonah was a computer mechanic who thought he was a financial whizz kidzz..I did wonder sometimes if he was Rupes, WH Ireland and Saints financial advisor....Most of the financial advisors of late were not that good..So I am told.

 

Only joking, jonah old boy....How is the computer course going by the way?

 

Happy new year to Rupes and his gang on here......

 

Hatred of Rupes..no not really....Just not my cup of tea. IF ONLY he had listened to me and a few of my fellow experts on this forum...Did Jesus come back more than once?

 

Happy New Year fellow Campers xxxx

 

Saints..Get yourselves in gear for the big push.

 

COYRs

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From 4th place in the Premiership??!!!!

 

How many wins did we have after beating Pompey 3 0 and before Strachan left

 

Not many I would have thought.

 

As you say with no investment available things were not looking good

 

That was when really needed Markhus

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