Hopkins Posted 2 January, 2010 Share Posted 2 January, 2010 Why do you think he can't score for us then ? he's been a regular for two seasons now. Because he's not and never has been a goal scoring attacking midfielder. He's a composed, ball playing, creative midfielder. He likes to sit and pass the ball with the occasional burst forward but he leaves the box to box stuff to Hammond. He's the best passer of a football i've seen in this league. I don't think you can expect much more from him. He maybe goes missing in games occasionally but he's improved his phsyical side and yes i'm sure he'd love to score a few goals but thats not what he's in the team for. He makes us pass the ball, long and short, and gives us a composure and touch that no other midfielder gives his team in this league. He's in the team to run the midfield, he does that imo, not to be the all action box to box midfielder. Thats what Hammond does. I honestly don't understand how people do not rate him. He was clearly a class above anyone else on the pitch today. He broke up some of there play today and started our own on most occasions. He pinged the ball 50/60 yards a fair few times to our wingers and often starts moves by passing the ball into Lamberts feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 January, 2010 Share Posted 2 January, 2010 someone posed to a question a while ago to the morgan doubters.. when morgan has he ball...just imagine the difference if it was wotton on the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 2 January, 2010 Share Posted 2 January, 2010 Watched him very closely today. He did a couple of good things but he did more wrong things and I have to say he remains massively over-rated, I stand by my original opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 January, 2010 Share Posted 2 January, 2010 someone posed to a question a while ago to the morgan doubters.. when morgan has he ball...just imagine the difference if it was wotton on the ball Also if he had a couple of decent wide players he would look a different player probably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 January, 2010 Share Posted 2 January, 2010 Watched him very closely today. He did a couple of good things but he did more wrong things and I have to say he remains massively over-rated, I stand by my original opinion. did you not try my `picture Wotton in posession scene' then? What is it that is missing from his game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 January, 2010 Share Posted 2 January, 2010 Alonso managed 15 in 5 years at Liverpool - 138 appearances. Its not the only measure of a midfielder. THink he does lack confidence in front of goal at moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 January, 2010 Share Posted 2 January, 2010 Watched him very closely today. He did a couple of good things but he did more wrong things and I have to say he remains massively over-rated, I stand by my original opinion. he tackles, runs with the ball, controls it, passes it and rarely gives it away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 2 January, 2010 Share Posted 2 January, 2010 he was okay today, he made some key tackles and really got stuck in. TBF it was very low performance from the whole team and fatigue certainly seemed to be a factor that affected everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 2 January, 2010 Share Posted 2 January, 2010 he was okay today, he made some key tackles and really got stuck in. TBF it was very low performance from the whole team and fatigue certainly seemed to be a factor that affected everyone. The team appeared unfit to me should have taken charge in the last twenty minutes but they did not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 2 January, 2010 Share Posted 2 January, 2010 Thankfully Spiderman is vastly improved....May long may it continue.....Very good signing required to give him and Hammond support/competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Finn Posted 2 January, 2010 Share Posted 2 January, 2010 Watched him very closely today. He did a couple of good things but he did more wrong things and I have to say he remains massively over-rated, I stand by my original opinion. Ditto. He was ****poor today, and flatters to deceive far too often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintds Posted 2 January, 2010 Share Posted 2 January, 2010 Morgan's a fantastic player. He came here as a raw midfielder with goals under his belt. By his own admission that's taken a back seat as he's been working on the physical side of his game with clear improvements. He's still young. The naysayers should give him a break. He just needs a goal after which there'll be no looking back for him. He'll be my couple of quid for 1st scorer for the next few games. I predict he'll be the subject of bids at the end of the season & I hope NC & AP agree to tell any suitors to get stuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 4 more votes to take the lead in man of match poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 A class above anyone else on the pitch today again. That despite the fact he was berating the ref for 90 minutes. Probably can't understand the p*ss poor quality of the refereeing in our League. I know he thinks he gets a lot of bad treatment from the hackers and choppers that abound in League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 he tackles, runs with the ball, controls it, passes it and rarely gives it away. Nick, that is simply not true. He gave the ball away in a terrible position in the 2nd half which darn well nearly ended in a goal for them - it was very slovenly. And what about that crossfield ball in front of his own area v Exeter last week? Everyone makes mistakes but when he does they are in bad positions. Not looking to be confrontational here, I would like him to be the real deal but he aint...not yet anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 4 more votes to take the lead in man of match poll And how many people who voted were actually at the game. I sometimes smile when I read people arguing on the "after match threads" about the quality of the performance when they weren't even at the game. St Landrew was at it the other day basing his opinions after listening to the game on the radio and actually contradicting someone who was there. Priceless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Nick, that is simply not true. He gave the ball away in a terrible position in the 2nd half which darn well nearly ended in a goal for them - it was very slovenly. And what about that crossfield ball in front of his own area v Exeter last week? Everyone makes mistakes but when he does they are in bad positions. Not looking to be confrontational here, I would like him to be the real deal but he aint...not yet anyway! I agree he was OK but nothing special. The whole team were inept for many parts of the game including Midfield particularly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Watched him very closely today. He did a couple of good things but he did more wrong things and I have to say he remains massively over-rated, I stand by my original opinion. I agree. He is too inconsistent. I would ship him out with James in January if I could guarantee a better replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 someone posed to a question a while ago to the morgan doubters.. when morgan has he ball...just imagine the difference if it was wotton on the ball Interesting analogy it's a bit like saying what would you rather stand in - 'dog poo or a newly laid cowpat?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Morgan has quality and his absence at Leeds was painfully obvious. And he is only 19 ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Morgan has quality and his absence at Leeds was painfully obvious. And he is only 19 ffs Being 19 is a good point. Worth making him a bench player who fights for a place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Being 19 is a good point. Worth making him a bench player who fights for a place? Morgan is 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 lol at people who think morgan is crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I agree. He is too inconsistent. I would ship him out with James in January if I could guarantee a better replacement. You wouldn't find a better replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Morgan is 20 lol well that makes all the difference then Even so, I would still have him in our side everytime, he does so much of the leg work that goes unnoticed, just because he isnt making runs through the centre or scoring for fun doesnt mean he isnt doing what he has been asked to do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 And how many people who voted were actually at the game. I sometimes smile when I read people arguing on the "after match threads" about the quality of the performance when they weren't even at the game. St Landrew was at it the other day basing his opinions after listening to the game on the radio and actually contradicting someone who was there. Priceless. my mom yesterday was Harding, i thought he played well even when the brought on pace. Morgan would have been 3rd behind Perry yesterday. As someone else said, the whole team was inept, bad passes etc. Morgan did more right than wrong and he is still young. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 lol well that makes all the difference then Even so, I would still have him in our side everytime, he does so much of the leg work that goes unnoticed, just because he isnt making runs through the centre or scoring for fun doesnt mean he isnt doing what he has been asked to do well. Did he not make a great run towards the end of yesterdays game? Unfortunately he only had Paterson to pass to in the box. Our midfield's problem is the same every match, they're having to nursemaid the defence.The ground they have to cover must be fantastic. It's a pity that Sky (or the BBC) don't have the little distance counter (don't know how they do it, must be some sort of GPS tracking I suppose) that Canal + have, they put up the distance covered by players in a game. I remember Alonso used to get up around 14/15 kilometres in a game.Just running 15 km in an hour isn't easy, imagine having to twist and turn and kick the ball and tackle as well. 15k in 90 minutes is a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Did he not make a great run towards the end of yesterdays game? Unfortunately he only had Paterson to pass to in the box. Our midfield's problem is the same every match, they're having to nursemaid the defence.The ground they have to cover must be fantastic. It's a pity that Sky (or the BBC) don't have the little distance counter (don't know how they do it, must be some sort of GPS tracking I suppose) that Canal + have, they put up the distance covered by players in a game. I remember Alonso used to get up around 14/15 kilometres in a game.Just running 15 km in an hour isn't easy, imagine having to twist and turn and kick the ball and tackle as well. 15k in 90 minutes is a lot. agree with this 100% its noticeable that MS and DH look more "relaxed" when Jaidi is there. Would be good to see how they both play if we get another decent CB in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I agree. He is too inconsistent. I would ship him out with James in January if I could guarantee a better replacement. I'd be very interested to hear your suggestions. There is not a CM in the league I'd swap him for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Schneiderlin is our best footballer, I really don't understand how anyone can doubt him. He has a great first touch, best range of passing in the team and he get stuck in as much as anyone. He's gone from being a luxury player who just pings the ball around to our most important midfielder over the last 18 months. I really hope we can keep hold of him if we don't get promoted this season, losing him would be a massive blow we wouldn't be able to replace him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 Hopefully posts like these are why you dont post much. And posts like these suggest you should post less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I'd be very interested to hear your suggestions. There is not a CM in the league I'd swap him for. He is only saying that as they are players from the Lowe Regime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joesaint Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 He is only saying that as they are players from the Lowe Regime Don't think so, he is quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I am saying that if I could find a replacement I would replace an inconsistent young player for a decent man anytime. Who wouldnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macthesaint Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I think we might miss Morgan against Huddersfield,as Im told he will be suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 You can clearly see he has tried to make an effort to improve his physical side of the game and gets stuck in more this season. His passing doesn't quite have the same impact as it did last year but I think we do miss him when he doesn't play, there were certainly a lot of players who were not as good as him Vs Luton. Give him a break I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I think we might miss Morgan against Huddersfield,as Im told he will be suspended. You're told wrong then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertsrightleg Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 hes young and still a bit raw. in 5 or 6 years time he will be a top premier league player. you can just see that he has the natural ability and speed of thought that will take him to the top. hes got natural talent but for some reason people would rather see a headless chicken running around flying into tackles in midfield than somebody who plays a decent ball game. at times this season he has been a joy to watch, very much in the mould of xabi alonso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hectors house Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 MS really does seem to split opinion more than any other player. I'm afraid at the moment I think he is over rated. I'm not saying he shouldn't get in the side but all this talk of best midfielder in the league IMO is nonsense. Pardew obviously rates him very highly and therfore I hope he can develop into a great player but right now if he left or got a long term injury I personally would not be as concerend as I would if we lost Lambert, Llanana or Jaidi. I am however intrigued as to why some of you rate him so highly and will make an extra effort at the next match to watch him closely and try to figure out what I am missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_mears Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I really do not understand anyone who thinks Schneiderlin is a good player. He wouldnt get in a Premiership team. He would struggle in many champ sides as well. To improve SFC hes the sort of player that needs to be replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I really do not understand anyone who thinks Schneiderlin is a good player. He wouldnt get in a Premiership team. He would struggle in many champ sides as well. To improve SFC hes the sort of player that needs to be replaced. What a stupid point, we're not in the Premiership, we're in League One. How many of our current players would walk straight into a Premier League team? Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I really do not understand anyone who thinks Schneiderlin is a good player. He wouldnt get in a Premiership team. He would struggle in many champ sides as well. To improve SFC hes the sort of player that needs to be replaced. sorry, but that is probably the most ridiculous thing i've ever read on here....and that takes some doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I really do not understand anyone who thinks Schneiderlin is a good player. He wouldnt get in a Premiership team. He would struggle in many champ sides as well. To improve SFC hes the sort of player that needs to be replaced. 1. We are in League One not the Prem. 2. He is only 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I really do not understand anyone who thinks Schneiderlin is a good player. He wouldnt get in a Premiership team. He would struggle in many champ sides as well. To improve SFC hes the sort of player that needs to be replaced. what a stupid point. Players in this league aren't good enough to play in premiership so does that make them all rubbish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 3 January, 2010 Share Posted 3 January, 2010 I really do not understand anyone who thinks Schneiderlin is a good player. He wouldnt get in a Premiership team. He would struggle in many champ sides as well. To improve SFC hes the sort of player that needs to be replaced. Lallana and Schneiderlin will end up in Premiership(or a major European countries top flight) at some point in their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macthesaint Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 You're told wrong then. Thats good news then,I think I heard it on Solent after the game,one of our great texters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 I really do not understand anyone who thinks Schneiderlin is a good player. He wouldnt get in a Premiership team. He would struggle in many champ sides as well. To improve SFC hes the sort of player that needs to be replaced. On that notion then lets replace the whole team then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 I really do not understand anyone who thinks Schneiderlin is a good player. He wouldnt get in a Premiership team. He would struggle in many champ sides as well. To improve SFC hes the sort of player that needs to be replaced. Nice one Mearsy, managed to hook a few fukwits with your subtle satire. Keep up the good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Causer Posted 5 January, 2010 Share Posted 5 January, 2010 I think we suffer as a team from not having a left footed midfielder. This cuts off angles and passing options and slows down our attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West End Saint Posted 6 January, 2010 Share Posted 6 January, 2010 I think Morgan is quality he can PASS the ball is always looking to switch the play his range of passing is very good good touch he can take the ball under pressure & he links up really well with lallana we need him in the team. The most important thing is Pardew really rates him on a couple occasions he has been injured Pards has said how much we miss him and Pards seems to be a very good judge of a player. He is still young and had to adapt to this league and I am sure he will get a better he has had 2 or 3 below par games but I think he brings a lot to the team he has TALENT and like Lallana he will blossom into a very good player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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