PaulSaint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 What decent players have the two clubs bought through their ranks? What have I missed got wrong? SAINTS....................................POMPEY ____________________________________ Le Tiss...............................Vince Hilaire? Shearer..............................Matty Taylor Rod Wallace Danny Wallace Wayne Bridge Mick Channon Steve Moran Steve Williams Nick Holmes Theo Walcott Gareth Bale
converted_saint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Did Primus come through the ranks. Even though he's a filthy skate, he was a pretty good player before he retired last month...
Pat from Poole Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 What decent players have the two clubs bought through their ranks? What have I missed got wrong? SAINTS....................................POMPEY ____________________________________ Le Tiss...............................Vince Hilaire? Shearer..............................Matty Taylor Rod Wallace Danny Wallace Wayne Bridge Mick Channon Steve Moran Steve Williams Nick Holmes Theo Walcott Gareth Bale I fear Anderton be in the blue column.
Wildgoose Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Did Primus come through the ranks. Even though he's a filthy skate, he was a pretty good player before he retired last month... Primus went there from Reading
Gemmel Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Myda Sagunrooner is on pompeys books, related to Sacha Gaymark, he is really rated and supposed to have explosive pace
Dazza82 Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Primus went there from Reading I think primus started at Charlton.
Badger Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Myda Sagunrooner is on pompeys books, related to Sacha Gaymark, he is really rated and supposed to have explosive pace I thought Moscow were keen on speaking with him.
Badger Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Do Paine and Chivers count? Probably.In which case we have to allow them Jimmy Dickinson c50years ago. Alan Knight ? Or wasn't he released by Arsenal ?
Badger Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Barely bring myself to type it, but....Steve Foster
Crab Lungs Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 More to add, if you looking at players who then forged a professional career/played in the top 2 divisions. MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE PUT THE SKATES TO SHAME! SAINTS Matt Oakley Tommy Widdrington Francis Benali Adam Lallana Chris Baird Brian Howard Leon Best Dexter Blackstock Alan Shearer Jason Dodd (signed from Bath BUT an exception - or not?) Neil Maddison Jeff Kenna David Hughes Gary Monk/Mike Williamson (both signed from Torquay when 16?) Michael Poke Lloyd James Matt Mills Joseph Mills Nathan Dyer Andrew Surman Simon Gillett David McGoldrick (signed at 15 from Notts C) PORTSMOUTH James Keene (Elfsborg??) Lewis Buxton?
HK_Phoey Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Should probably give them Darren Anderto, even though he is from Bitterne
dubai_phil Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Myda Sagunrooner is on pompeys books, related to Sacha Gaymark, he is really rated and supposed to have explosive pace lol a Gaydamark and explosive slipped into the same sentence
Teddy Nutkins Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Barely bring myself to type it, but....Steve Foster Steve was on Saints books as a schoolboy in the early 70's.....he started his career as a centre forward.
Toomer Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Anderton' date='Awford,Knight[/quote'] His dad Norman used to do sub contract work for a company I worked for years ago, he was not happy at first when he went down the road.
Badger Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Anderton' date='Awford,[b']Knight[/b] Wasn't he an Arsenal reject ?
Crab Lungs Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 walcott came from swindon he did, but i thought maybe we developed him??
Thedelldays Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 he did, but i thought maybe we developed him?? and arsenal could lay claim to that (a little bit) as well I guess
Saint Without a Halo Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 and arsenal could lay claim to that (a little bit) as well I guess Has he developed at Aresenal? He has been overtaken by Ramsey already (who is younger and stayed longer at cardiff) Maybe he should have stayed at Saints longer (note to Llanna)
Thedelldays Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Has he developed at Aresenal? He has been overtaken by Ramsey already (who is younger and stayed longer at cardiff) Maybe he should have stayed at Saints longer (note to Llanna) hmmm...champions league quater finals, 3 goals in the hardest away game england had this campaign...look nailed on to keep that spot for england... but right now, his injuries are tearing him to pieces...Wenger predicted this after he pleaded with the FA not to take him to the U21 competition in the summer he played 20 games or so for us as a 16 year old and until his inuries this season, he was superb... lallana is playing in division 3 ffs
Crab Lungs Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Possibly, TDD, they could. Anyway, does anyone actually rate Theo that highly? I've always said he is way behind in his development as a footballer and is still more of a sprinter than anything? Premier League player, yes. International footballer? Despite that Croatia game amd that world class dribble v Liverpool, I still 'hmmmmm' over his inclusions. Anyway, sorry, off topic!
Saint Without a Halo Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Sorry TDD as usual it is a matter of opinions! I was at the match where he scored a superb goal in the youth team v Arsenal and just dont think he has developed much in the 4 years since as a footballer! He has pace and he has skill but not yet a complete footballer in my opinion! I saw the Croatia hatrick described as a hat trick in a below par performance, in the same way as the recent Man u one by Michael Owen. I believe that going to Arsenal so early in his career was detremintal to his progress!
Thedelldays Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Sorry TDD as usual it is a matter of opinions! I was at the match where he scored a superb goal in the youth team v Arsenal and just dont think he has developed much in the 4 years since as a footballer! He has pace and he has skill but not yet a complete footballer in my opinion! I saw the Croatia hatrick described as a hat trick in a below par performance, in the same way as the recent Man u one by Michael Owen. I believe that going to Arsenal so early in his career was detremintal to his progress! how can you compare scoring a hattrick for england away to croatia to one by owen at man u... do you think he would have scored that hattrick for england and starred in the champions league playing for saints in the CCC or even league 1..?
John B Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 What decent players have the two clubs bought through their ranks? What have I missed got wrong? SAINTS....................................POMPEY ____________________________________ Le Tiss...............................Vince Hilaire? Shearer..............................Matty Taylor Rod Wallace Danny Wallace Wayne Bridge Mick Channon Steve Moran Steve Williams Nick Holmes Theo Walcott Gareth Bale So what Pompey are in the premiership and we are League 1
Crab Lungs Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 So what Pompey are in the premiership and we are League 1 yes, and we were in the prem nearly 30 years. and we've got a better stadium, training ground etc and we've got a bigger fanbase. and we're not riddled with debt. and we've developed more players than them over the years. and we're in the ascendency and they are quite the opposite...
david in sweden Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 More to add, if you looking at players who then forged a professional career/played in the top 2 divisions. MAKE NO MISTAKE, WE PUT THE SKATES TO SHAME! SAINTS Matt Oakley Tommy Widdrington Francis Benali Adam Lallana Chris Baird Brian Howard Leon Best Dexter Blackstock Alan Shearer Jason Dodd (signed from Bath BUT an exception - or not?) Neil Maddison Jeff Kenna David Hughes Gary Monk/Mike Williamson (both signed from Torquay when 16?) Michael Poke Lloyd James Matt Mills Joseph Mills Nathan Dyer Andrew Surman Simon Gillett David McGoldrick (signed at 15 from Notts C) PORTSMOUTH James Keene (Elfsborg??) Lewis Buxton? I took a long look at your very impressive list and couldn't see... GARETH BALE ? ..and what 's that other lad's name...Theo?, Theo Walnut, or something:confused: sorry, its all that pre-Christmas cheer . YES, of course... Walcott. Didn't they both start with us , too ?
david in sweden Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 lallana is playing in division 3 ffs .but was surely good enough to play at U21 level for England - wasn't it ?
Horley CTFC Saint Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Steve Claridge!.....oh no that may have been Fareham Town
Gemmel Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 lol a Gaydamark and explosive slipped into the same sentence Bit slow today Phil
Thedelldays Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 .but was surely good enough to play at U21 level for England - wasn't it ? how many times has he been picked recently..? (seriously, I dont know) how many appearances has he made..?
Saint Without a Halo Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 how can you compare scoring a hattrick for england away to croatia to one by owen at man u... do you think he would have scored that hattrick for england and starred in the champions league playing for saints in the CCC or even league 1..? I think we just need to agree that our opinions differ on the issue of Walcotts development since leaving saints! I like Walcott and hope he makes it to the world cup! Just dont think his game has really developed in the 4 years since he left! That is my opinion and playing in the champions league and scoring a hat trick for England in croatia does not change it!
david in sweden Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 how many times has he been picked recently..? (seriously, I dont know) how many appearances has he made..? well obviously not THIS season, but I think he and Surman got seelcted last season didn't they ..? despite..r*********. AND there are still articles circulating from those useless journos who hint at interest from Prem.clubs. Although AP seems to have advised him well. YES, I think we can say that his development WAS at Saints.
farawaysaint Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 well obviously not THIS season, but I think he and Surman got seelcted last season didn't they ..? despite..r*********. AND there are still articles circulating from those useless journos who hint at interest from Prem.clubs. Although AP seems to have advised him well. YES, I think we can say that his development WAS at Saints. I think lallana only has one appearance at under 21 to his name? Anyone care to correct me?
Andyb1 Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 I took a long look at your very impressive list and couldn't see... GARETH BALE ? ..and what 's that other lad's name...Theo?, Theo Walnut, or something:confused: sorry, its all that pre-Christmas cheer . YES, of course... Walcott. Didn't they both start with us , too ? Walcott came from Swindon i think?
cambsaint Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 I thought Six-Balls (Trebil****) may have been in the Blue few, he was but I think he came from Everton. Cambsaint
cambsaint Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Ridiculous isn't when you can't even post a chap's name without censorship!
converted_saint Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Our academy was among the best in the game not so long ago, so it's no surprise to see that we've generated more home-grown talent that Pompey. Long may that continue, and here's to our academy producing fantastic talent in the years to come, talent we don't have to sell or put in the first-team far too early!
TijuanaTim Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 What decent players have the two clubs bought through their ranks? What have I missed got wrong? SAINTS....................................POMPEY ____________________________________ Le Tiss...............................Vince Hilaire? Shearer..............................Matty Taylor Rod Wallace Danny Wallace Wayne Bridge Mick Channon Steve Moran Steve Williams Nick Holmes Theo Walcott Gareth Bale I played against Vince Hilaire back in the early 70s and he was from London and started with Crippled Palarse not the sailor boys...
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