Master Bates Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Scouts have been turning up in increasing numbers at St Marys according to todays Echo. However, Lambert & Hammond are protected by a FIFA ruling that prevents footballers from playing for more than two clubs a season. So anyone worried about these 2 players leaving in January don't need to.
alpine_saint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Scouts have been turning up in increasing numbers at St Marys according to todays Echo. However, Lambert & Hammond are protected by a FIFA ruling that prevents footballers from playing for more than two clubs a season. So anyone worried about these 2 players leaving in January don't need to. Sweet ! Does it count loan clubs ? Maybe we should lend Lallana to Bournemouth for a week.
Scudamore Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 i wonder why the echo would print such a story?
Master Bates Posted 22 December, 2009 Author Posted 22 December, 2009 Sweet ! Does it count loan clubs ? Maybe we should lend Lallana to Bournemouth for a week. No, Lambert and Hammond CAN be loaned out, but I can't see it happening.
NickG Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 i wonder why the echo would print such a story? think two posts above yours answer this!
jam Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 So technically either could go out on loan for the second half of the season with an option to buy.
NickG Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 the post says playing? so would include loans?
Master Bates Posted 22 December, 2009 Author Posted 22 December, 2009 the post says playing? so would include loans? An exception to the rule is loan deals in England are not officially counted as transfers. The only other loophole is if a player moves to or from a third club that plays their season during the summer, such as in Ireland.
Foxstone Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Scouts have been turning up in increasing numbers at St Marys according to todays Echo. However, Lambert & Hammond are protected by a FIFA ruling that prevents footballers from playing for more than two clubs a season. So anyone worried about these 2 players leaving in January don't need to. Not concerned at all to be fair. We are in the fantastic position of not needing to sell, and I'm sure the clubs ambition certainly meets Lambo and Deano's aspirations too. Other can look all they like but unless its silly money ( which in todays climate it will not be), they would be wasting their time.
Master Bates Posted 22 December, 2009 Author Posted 22 December, 2009 So technically either could go out on loan for the second half of the season with an option to buy. Yes
alpine_saint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 No, Lambert and Hammond CAN be loaned out, but I can't see it happening. Thats not what I meant. I meant if loan clubs counted, we should send Lallana out on a very short loan to stop him being pilfered.
Master Bates Posted 22 December, 2009 Author Posted 22 December, 2009 Thats not what I meant. I meant if loan clubs counted, we should send Lallana out on a very short loan to stop him being pilfered. I know what you meant. I thought with me saying Lambert & Hammond can be loaned out you'd guess that Lallana can be loaned out AND then still be sold. How's you feeling?
jam Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Yes I wasn't worried until I read this thread. Merry Boxing Day to you too, MB.
Thedelldays Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 regardless if we need to sell or not.. if forest or newcastle ot WBA came in for lambert he will want to go..
Miltonaggro Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 I think Cortese will be welding up the exit door come January. Don't worry, be happy...
SO16_Saint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 where has the worry about these 2 leaving come from? have i missed anything saying they want to go?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 How would the echo know if scouts were in St Mary's?
Appy Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Why would they leave if they can't play for their clubs until August. I really do wonder about people on this forum sometimes.
Thedelldays Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Why would they leave if they can't play for their clubs until August. I really do wonder about people on this forum sometimes. I dont think they would but would you not think that if Newcastle, Forest (with boo boy davies) or WBA came in for them, they would turn them down..?
VectisSaint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 How would the echo know if scouts were in St Mary's? The woggles are a give away
Appy Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 I dont think they would but would you not think that if Newcastle, Forest (with boo boy davies) or WBA came in for them, they would turn them down..? I don't think that in the next transfer window they would. But in August, especially if we don't get promoted this season then the clubs you mentioned would be very tempting to our star players.
Scudamore Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 I dont think they would but would you not think that if Newcastle, Forest (with boo boy davies) or WBA came in for them, they would turn them down..? Forest are a bit short on the ground when it comes to strikers i guess...
Thedelldays Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 I don't think that in the next transfer window they would. But in August, especially if we don't get promoted this season then the clubs you mentioned would be very tempting to our star players. the clubs I mention will probably be in the premier league and will not go for league 1 players
View From The Top Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 I dont think they would but would you not think that if Newcastle, Forest (with boo boy davies) or WBA came in for them, they would turn them down..? Yes, I firmly believe the club will turn them all away. For the 1st time in my 4 decades following Saints we don't have to sell and that feels real good.
Thedelldays Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Yes, I firmly believe the club will turn them all away. For the 1st time in my 4 decades following Saints we don't have to sell and that feels real good. im sure the clubs would turn them away....if a player wants to move that is a different matter in this day and age
Saint_Ash Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 im sure the clubs would turn them away....if a player wants to move that is a different matter in this day and age Not really. Just tell them they're not being sold. Simples!
RonManager Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Not really. Just tell them they're not being sold. Simples! Remember Kenwyne Jones - went on strike.
Thedelldays Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Not really. Just tell them they're not being sold. Simples! remember how good james beattie was when he wanted out.. how good did bale get when his head was turned.. yes, you may be right and this happens at all other clubs
percy windham Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 if these players leave barely half a year after buying into pardew/liebherr/cortese's vision then i will eat my own ****
saint_mears Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 I dont get why this article was printed as it seem to answer itself ?
Master Bates Posted 22 December, 2009 Author Posted 22 December, 2009 http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/4815786.Scouts_flock_to_St_Mary_s___but_can_t_sign_stars/
dubai_phil Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Ah ha, the old sleight of hand trick eh! We all look THAT way worrying about Lambert & Hammond and woosh http://www.tribalfootball.com/fulham-boss-hodgson-targets-southampton-youngster-lallana-519901 Mind you, 1.5mil ROFL and all that
Scudamore Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Ah ha, the old sleight of hand trick eh! We all look THAT way worrying about Lambert & Hammond and woosh http://www.tribalfootball.com/fulham-boss-hodgson-targets-southampton-youngster-lallana-519901 Mind you, 1.5mil ROFL and all that And Lallana' date=' 21, who came up through Southampton’s academy, is anxious to follow in the footsteps of Gareth Bale and Theo Walcott, who both moved to London from St Mary’s, rather than move further north.[/quote'] He's anxious to always be injured?
oxfordshire_saint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 The only player I can see leaving against Pardew's wishes is Lallana, if he slaps in a transfer request and we get a decent offer from a bigger club, we should accept it and re-invest. A player who wants to leave is no use to us. Obviously there are some players who we will be practically kicking out the door come January though!
S-Clarke Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Ah ha, the old sleight of hand trick eh! We all look THAT way worrying about Lambert & Hammond and woosh http://www.tribalfootball.com/fulham-boss-hodgson-targets-southampton-youngster-lallana-519901 Mind you, 1.5mil ROFL and all that I'm surprised it doesn't say: ''cash-strapped saints will need to offload Lallana to raise much needed funds, and a fee of £1.5m should secure his services'' seeing as the tabloids have no idea that we are now ''rich.'' lol @ 1.5m though, easily at LEAST worth £6-7m if Delph went for 8m.
Scudamore Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 easily at LEAST worth £6-7m if Delph went for 8m. Que?
Saint Fan CaM Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Good news on Lambo and Hammond. Stupid article on Lallana - he's worth more than £1.5m to Saints - price tag would be at least £3m I would think. Interestingly, what nobody has mentioned yet in relation to the OP is whether the FIFA ruling might actually affect potential targets for AP in January. It could cut down the number of signings on his wish-list somewhat?
SuperSAINT Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Que? Fabian Delph - Formally of Leeds, once a shining light of a midfielder in this league, now a regular in the Villa reserves. Great move for all parties. (Except Leeds, Delph, and Villa )
S-Clarke Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Que? Fabian Delph went to Villa from leeds for £8m in the summer. He was a very good AMC at this level - if Lallana goes, surely he would be the same price range? 1.5m is just a laugh. (the article is prob a load of rehashed garbage though)
Chez Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 had no fears about Hammond and Lambert at all, but the question is can we hold on to Schneiderlin and Lallana? The fact both have been in tremendous form and yet we have not heard a dicky bird about new contracts for either suggests neither is interested in signing one. In Lallana's case is it a case of only promotion will stop him leaving. He said he would see the season out, but after that? If Morgan continues to play as he has done then the Championship beckons.
Chez Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Fabian Delph went to Villa from leeds for £8m in the summer. He was a very good AMC at this level - if Lallana goes, surely he would be the same price range? 1.5m is just a laugh. (the article is prob a load of rehashed garbage though) length of existing contract will be a factor.
dubai_phil Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 If Morgan continues to play as he has done then the Championship beckons for Saints. There, added the two last words to make it read properly :cool:
Chez Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 nice. It still surprises me to find people on here that don't see how much better he is compared to last season. In my opion its him, not Hammond that is running things in the middle. I'm pretty sure I said lkast season numerous times that he was only 19 and he needed a lot more time to find his feet. He's now found them in my book. I dare say his rise has been helped by the drop in league, but he is right up there with Jardi and Lambert as our most important player and time for a new 5 year deal me thinks.
Genk Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 I could see our big players leaving in a years time if we aren't up near the top come January 2011 but certainly not worried about anyone leaving this season or in August. I'm more looking forward to us poaching other league 1 clubs decent players.
Saint_clark Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Lambert to Everton So they say, but I can't see it happening.
Saints foreva Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Typical, nobody looked at Lambert at Bristol Rovers apart from us and Huddersfield in the summer.
InvictaSaint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Firstly, it seems that a lot of people are looking at this possible situation wearing the doomsday hat that used to adorn all Saints fans from 1985 until July 2009. Understandable, to an extent, but still rather pessimistic given all the evidence to date. Secondly, for the first time in decades, I am not in the slightest bit worried if a player does go - Lallana, Lambert (though I can't see it I'm afraid), Morgan - because at long, long last we have a Chairman and a Chief Exec who would ensure they are replaced with equal if not better quality. Their vision is not limited by finances or dependent upon one particular player, thankfully.
Scudamore Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 We will not be getting £6-7m for Adam Lallana. We got £6m for Kenwyne Jones ffs. And i am fully aware of who Fabian Delph is. Being a football fan and having not lived in a cave for the last five years.
Window Cleaner Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 How would the echo know if scouts were in St Mary's? I thought the Echo was banned from St Mary's anyway. Doubt if it's just Lambert that they're looking at.We have players on loan from other clubs that the parent clubs might be wanting to sell, so where do scouts see them? yep where they're playing. Scouts will probably be looking at Lambert, Lallana and Morgan just now. All three will be considered by some scouting staff to be playing below their level.
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