Thedelldays Posted 21 December, 2009 Posted 21 December, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8425280.stm
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Silly boy. It smacks of desperation.
Saintandy666 Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Hmmmmmmmm, I wouldn't be so sure, Brown has been getting better recently and been actually winning a lot of his pmq's with Cameron and so on. Cameron is good, but I don't think he has much substance, so I think Brown could come off well, but to be honest, I think the Lib Dems will come off best.
Verbal Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Wot no Nick Griffin! He's busy on the main board calling Kelvin 'fit'.
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Brown, irrespective of what he is saying will just be annoying to watch, think this is a mistake as David styleoversubstance Cameron will be slightly less annoying, shallow but hey ho
Clapham Saint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 I think this is Brown's only hope. He doesn't come accross well to floating voters in the news or (Lol) Youtube. IMO his only hope of winning is to absolutely r*** Cameron at one of these debates. He has done well at PMQs so you never know and Cameron doesn't always manage to follow up his sound bites with substance. He runs the risk of looking very hollow. If Cameron comes of better in these debates Labour could end up losing by an unheard of margin. Last throw of the dice IMO.
NickG Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 don't think Tories have this in the bag yet by a long way. Opinion polls often favour opposition and although unpopular I do wonder whether a lot of people will feel more comfortable with the devil they know when it comes to it.
dune Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Brown is such a mong that no-one is going to listen to what he says, they'll just get irritated by looking at him. BROWNS DEFORMED MOUTH BROWNS FAKE SMILE I'm all for care in the comunity, but it's going a bit far having a spastic running the country.
View From The Top Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 It is Citizen Dave who has most to lose and Brown who has most to gain.
Thedelldays Posted 22 December, 2009 Author Posted 22 December, 2009 It is Citizen Dave who has most to lose and Brown who has most to gain. not too sure..labour have been creeping back in some opinion polls.. generally, I dont think Brown comes over well in front of the camera...I think he will blow any chance of re-election (if there is one) should he produce anything other than a stunning display fair play to brown, he is a fighter
View From The Top Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 not too sure..labour have been creeping back in some opinion polls.. generally, I dont think Brown comes over well in front of the camera...I think he will blow any chance of re-election (if there is one) should he produce anything other than a stunning display fair play to brown, he is a fighter At this stage of the game the tories have a clear lead, it's their election to lose. Brown, for all of his many faults, is an excellent debater and Citizen Dave as been trounced on a regular basis at PMQs. Game on as they say.
Thedelldays Posted 22 December, 2009 Author Posted 22 December, 2009 At this stage of the game the tories have a clear lead, it's their election to lose. Brown, for all of his many faults, is an excellent debater and Citizen Dave as been trounced on a regular basis at PMQs. Game on as they say. will be good to watch I reckon... I kind of like this idea....hopefully they have agreed to debate proper issues and give proper answers
Scudamore Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Questions will be asked by Jeremy Paxman on BBC, Phil and Fern on ITV and Ian Wright on Sky.
Clapham Saint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 not too sure..labour have been creeping back in some opinion polls.. generally, I dont think Brown comes over well in front of the camera...I think he will blow any chance of re-election (if there is one) should he produce anything other than a stunning display fair play to brown, he is a fighter Agreed.
oxfordshire_saint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Questions will be asked by Jeremy Paxman on BBC, Phil and Fern on ITV and Ian Wright on Sky. I'd heard on the ITV one they would face an X-Factor style panel?
littleoldladysaint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 In my opinion Nick Clegg has the most to gain. In past election campaigns the Lib-Dems could only have dreamed of this sort of coverage.
ecuk268 Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Brown will point out that this is no time for an inexperienced politician to take over. Also he'll emphasize Cameron's "posh" background - old Etonian who has stuffed his shadow cabinet full of other old Etonians. He married into a fortune - his wife's worth about £30m. What can he know about the realities of everyday life for plebs like us?
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Brown will point out that this is no time for an inexperienced politician to take over. Also he'll emphasize Cameron's "posh" background - old Etonian who has stuffed his shadow cabinet full of other old Etonians. He married into a fortune - his wife's worth about £30m. What can he know about the realities of everyday life for plebs like us? The same could be said about Brown...
CB Saint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Bet Gordon wouldn't have agreed to it if William Hague was the Tory leader.
Wilko Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Let's hope Cameron is shown up as the vacuous ponce that he is.
Verbal Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Bet Gordon wouldn't have agreed to it if William Hague was the Tory leader. Quite. Hague is by the far the Tories' most skilled debater - and used to wipe the floor with Blair.
dune Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Quite. Hague is by the far the Tories' most skilled debater - and used to wipe the floor with Blair. Hague was nowhere near as electable as David Cameron. That bald head and silly voice let him down. Like it or not politics in this country is albout image. Cameron has the image of a leader, Brown has the image of one eyed mong.
NickG Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Brown is such a mong that no-one is going to listen to what he says, they'll just get irritated by looking at him. BROWNS DEFORMED MOUTH BROWNS FAKE SMILE I'm all for care in the comunity, but it's going a bit far having a spastic running the country. Hague was nowhere near as electable as David Cameron. That bald head and silly voice let him down. Like it or not politics in this country is albout image. Cameron has the image of a leader, Brown has the image of one eyed mong. how do you compare the prospective PMs ability with the economy and commitment to public services?
Sheaf Saint Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Hague was nowhere near as electable as David Cameron. That bald head and silly voice let him down. Like it or not politics in this country is albout image. Cameron has the image of a leader, Brown has the image of one eyed mong. I think you underestimate the voting public. Believe me I know how shallow people can be at times, but I have never yet known anybody admit to voting for somebody just because they like his haircut or his voice. Though I have never voted Conservative in my life, I must confess I like William Hague as a public speaker. But his biggest problem while he was Tory leader was that the party was on its knees after the utter whitewash in the 1997 election. He regularly humiliated Bliar in PMQT, but ultimately he was on a hiding to nothing.
St Landrew Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Brown is such a mong that no-one is going to listen to what he says, they'll just get irritated by looking at him. I'm all for care in the comunity, but it's going a bit far having a spastic running the country. Well only people who view things on a superficial level are going to think that way. I'm not at all sure people who vote in such a way have the right to vote at all. This is a decision about who runs the country, and indirectly, your lives. Not some Sports Personality Of The Year contest. You look past the fact that Gordon Brown wasn't blessed with model like features, and listen to what he has to say. Then you do the same with the other party leaders.
Verbal Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Hague was nowhere near as electable as David Cameron. That bald head and silly voice let him down. Like it or not politics in this country is albout image. Cameron has the image of a leader, Brown has the image of one eyed mong. I'm probably alone in this, but I find your posts utterly obnoxious.
NickG Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 I'm probably alone in this, but I find your posts utterly obnoxious. you're not alone.
St Landrew Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 I'm probably alone in this, but I find your posts utterly obnoxious. As above.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Hmmmmmmmm, I wouldn't be so sure, Brown has been getting better recently and been actually winning a lot of his pmq's with Cameron and so on. Cameron is good, but I don't think he has much substance, so I think Brown could come off well, but to be honest, I think the Lib Dems will come off best. PMQ's are structured in such a way as to give the PM a massive advantage. He always has the last word and is not pressed to answer any questions. He just throws sound bites and a line of attacked worked out hours in advance. When Brown has been surprised or unprepared, he has come across very poorly. An example of the lack of balance was at PMQ's recently when Brown said Spain was a member of the G8, when it is not. DC had ran out of questions, so couldn't press him on it, but someone like Paxman would have ripped him apart. If the debates are structured in a way that means they have to think on their feet and the Chairman presses them for answers and picks up on any lies/spin/ mistake, Brown will take a hammering IMO.
bungle Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Seeing as the Tories currently have no answers, I can only assume Cameron will have nothing to say.
ecuk268 Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 you're not alone. His idea of political debate is to hurl insults. Do you think that he's left infant school yet?
mack rill Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Will they be loaning the venue for this three way luv in from Billy Smart.:smt116
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Brown is such a mong that no-one is going to listen to what he says, they'll just get irritated by looking at him. BROWNS DEFORMED MOUTH BROWNS FAKE SMILE I'm all for care in the comunity, but it's going a bit far having a spastic running the country. Community has two m's you thick w@nker.
Saintandy666 Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 PMQ's are structured in such a way as to give the PM a massive advantage. He always has the last word and is not pressed to answer any questions. He just throws sound bites and a line of attacked worked out hours in advance. When Brown has been surprised or unprepared, he has come across very poorly. An example of the lack of balance was at PMQ's recently when Brown said Spain was a member of the G8, when it is not. DC had ran out of questions, so couldn't press him on it, but someone like Paxman would have ripped him apart. If the debates are structured in a way that means they have to think on their feet and the Chairman presses them for answers and picks up on any lies/spin/ mistake, Brown will take a hammering IMO. Well, I always think that the people who most lose out in these kind of debates are the people who are ahead and that is Dave.
TopGun Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Questions will be asked by Jeremy Paxman on BBC, Phil and Fern on ITV and Ian Wright on Sky. Lol
TopGun Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 not too sure..labour have been creeping back in some opinion polls.. generally, I dont think Brown comes over well in front of the camera...I think he will blow any chance of re-election (if there is one) should he produce anything other than a stunning display fair play to brown, he is a fighter Don't you think your thread title was a bit silly though TDD?
St Landrew Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Questions will be asked by Jeremy Paxman on BBC, Phil and Fern on ITV and Ian Wright on Sky. Lol. Is this for real..? BBC gets a proper interviewer to do the job. ITV gets cosy on the sofa, and we've got street cred with SKY.
bridge too far Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Lol. Is this for real..? BBC gets a proper interviewer to do the job. ITV gets cosy on the sofa, and we've got street cred with SKY. The first debate will be hosted by ITV's Alastair Stewart, the second by Sky's Adam Boulton and the third by the BBC's David Dimbleby. However, the other option would be funny
benjii Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 Brown will point out that this is no time for an inexperienced politician to take over. Also he'll emphasize Cameron's "posh" background - old Etonian who has stuffed his shadow cabinet full of other old Etonians. He married into a fortune - his wife's worth about £30m. What can he know about the realities of everyday life for plebs like us? £30m a "fortune"? Pah!
benjii Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 PMQ's are structured in such a way as to give the PM a massive advantage. He always has the last word and is not pressed to answer any questions. He just throws sound bites and a line of attacked worked out hours in advance. When Brown has been surprised or unprepared, he has come across very poorly. An example of the lack of balance was at PMQ's recently when Brown said Spain was a member of the G8, when it is not. DC had ran out of questions, so couldn't press him on it, but someone like Paxman would have ripped him apart. If the debates are structured in a way that means they have to think on their feet and the Chairman presses them for answers and picks up on any lies/spin/ mistake, Brown will take a hammering IMO. Correct - forming an assessment of debating skill based on PMQs is not a wise move! PMQs is just a cartoon skit.
Whitey Grandad Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 I do hope we are not going to elect a new government on the basis of a few soundbites. That happened before and it didn't work out very well.
TopGun Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 I do hope we are not going to elect a new government on the basis of a few soundbites. That happened before and it didn't work out very well. Oh noes... The tories might have to make some policies rather than just criticise Labour! Actually, their energy and enviro bloke Greg Clark has made "promises", but I bet they will watered down by Cameron's election manifesto...
Redondo Saint Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 I do hope we are not going to elect a new government on the basis of a few soundbites. That happened before and it didn't work out very well. Sadly, as the majority of MPs are lawyers, PR people or professional politicians it's unlikely we will get anything but soundbite governments.
TopGun Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 (edited) Sadly, as the majority of MPs are lawyers, PR people or professional politicians it's unlikely we will get anything but soundbite governments. Would you prefer plumbers, carpet layers and the the general unemployed to be in charge? Edited 23 December, 2009 by TopGun I am not against plumbers doing my plumbing btw.
Redondo Saint Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 (edited) Would you prefer plumbers, carpet layers and the the general unemployed to be in charge? A balance of all is better than a majority of a few. Edited 23 December, 2009 by Redondo Saint I am against plumbers doing my carpet laying btw
Gemmel Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 don't think Tories have this in the bag yet by a long way. Opinion polls often favour opposition and although unpopular I do wonder whether a lot of people will feel more comfortable with the devil they know when it comes to it. The hand over of power has already begun, labour have conceded already
TopGun Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 The hand over of power has already begun, labour have conceded already What nonsense. Each main political party looks as though they have a chance to have an effect on the future and the election is a few months away.
TopGun Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 A balance of all is better than a majority of a few. Bring out your plumbers Redondo.
Gemmel Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 What nonsense. Each main political party looks as though they have a chance to have an effect on the future and the election is a few months away. What ever..... but it has
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