.comsaint Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 I just hope the fixtures dont catch up with us.. again, I hope we rest a few for the FA cup If we're honest - we have absolutely no chance whatsoever of winning the FA Cup. We can certainly go to Wembley & a fantastic day out in the JPT however - and although it (obviously) doesn't have the kudos or razz-matazz of the FA Cup - we could have a fab day out & the real possibility of some silverware in the cabinet! For that reason - I'd like to see us play our strongest side in the JPT games & put the FA Cup further down the list.
saintsmike25 Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Not really surprised was more interested to see how far our defence and team has gone. The defence sounded great today especially Perry and Jaidi both 34 and 36! against Beckford and marked him out of the game culminating in him throwing a strop. Pardew probably missed Morgan in the centre as we didn't sound like we were holding onto the ball enough. Again they just had that bit more quality and it took a great goal to beat us from the sound of the things, perhaps if that goal was scored in the first half we could have equalised as soon as we started to attack them in the second half we were bossing it towards the end. Exeter is a big game for us now i'll be down at SMS. COYR!
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Decent effort from our team today by the sound of it - bad luck chaps .
rallyboy Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 a good effort. Could have been worse - other results were kind, Lambert could/should have been sent off, or he could have been subbed and argued with the manager on the way off prior to departing in January. And according to Radio Solent, Leeds are still running on huge budgets which is okay if you own something. They are now living the dream and trying to rent success.
madruss Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Because we are no nearer the play-offs after 22 games than we were at the start. We just aren't making up any ground. I disagree, the form at the beginning at the season is not representative of the team, the current form is a measure of where we are as a side. The fact that we haven't lost ground on the top 6 despite shaky start is the clearest indicator that we're a good bet for the playoffs...that and the fact the squad will be strengthened in January. Can't wait for two trips to Wembley!
saint lard Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 No disgrace in losing 1-0 away at Leeds I am still filled with optimism,which compared to last season, thats a revelation.
Saint_lambden Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 At the end of the day, Leeds scored what sounded like a good goal ans that was what was going to be the difference in a tight game like this. A real shame that we lacked a killer touch in front of goal, and Lambert had a massive chance with a couple of minutes left to snatch a point. We shouldn't be too disheartened after this, we need to pick ourselves up and get back on track with a result against Exeter. The play-offs aren't unachievable but we need a couple more signings and a lot of hard work needs to be put in. Well done to those that traveled up there.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Today was a good test of how far weve come - sadly you cant win em all
Saint Garrett Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Just sitting in the car park...traffic is horrendous! Thought we played well today, although think we gave them too much respect in the first half! Were pretty solid, but didn't try and attack enough. Thought we played the long ball into the corners too often to connolly and he hardly got the ball, although he looked comfortable in front of the back four. I'm happy with a 1.0 loss though, because we more than matched them. We can't be massively downhearted by the performance! Lets hope we make it out of this car park soon!
trousers Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Just sitting in the car park...traffic is horrendous! Tunbridge Wells or Leeds?
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Because we are no nearer the play-offs after 22 games than we were at the start. We just aren't making up any ground. We are a lot nearer than we were at the end of September.
St Landrew Posted 19 December, 2009 Author Posted 19 December, 2009 Trying to work out why I don't feeel too bad at all, and am just looking at the teams above Saints, but outside of the playoff zone. Most of them have not taken advantage. Most have drawn, rather than winning, and Bristol Rovers and MK Dons lost. Brentford climbed above Saints by beating MKDs. Only Millwall and Swindon did well. I think Carlisle didn't play.
benjii Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 I'm in favour of resting the key players in cup games when we have two games a week but (if memory serves me correctly) any player rested for the FA Cup game against Luton won't play first team football for 11 days which is too long IMO Eh? We have a match against Huddersfield the next wkend don't we? Or have I gone mental?
Johnny Shearer Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Just sitting in the car park...traffic is horrendous! Thought we played well today, although think we gave them too much respect in the first half! Were pretty solid, but didn't try and attack enough. Thought we played the long ball into the corners too often to connolly and he hardly got the ball, although he looked comfortable in front of the back four. I'm happy with a 1.0 loss though, because we more than matched them. We can't be massively downhearted by the performance! Lets hope we make it out of this car park soon! Although we lost that sounds promising. Pick up points in our next two games and that will get us back on track hopefully.
St Landrew Posted 19 December, 2009 Author Posted 19 December, 2009 Don't know where I got the idea that Leeds had a near 40,000 attendance. Apparently it was 25,948. I did hear 26,000 during the match, but overlooked it. I also thought I heard capacity crowd being mentioned, though. Bit confused. :confused:
Window Cleaner Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Eh? We have a match against Huddersfield the next wkend don't we? Or have I gone mental? Colchester away 28th December, Huddersfield home 9th January Difference = 12 days
benjii Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Right, I see what you (or rather he) means. My fault for reading the post too quickly and not paying attention.
Red&White Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Because we are no nearer the play-offs after 22 games than we were at the start. We just aren't making up any ground. ?????????????
doddisalegend Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Oh come on..if we'd won we wouldn't assume we were miles better than them, so let's not assume we're not up there yet. Given the short period our team has been together and the results it's got, we are good enough. They beat us 1-0 at their ground, could have been 1-1, another day, who knows. We'll all hope to beat them at SMS, and if we played them at home now I'd be hopeful of a win. Just two evenly matched teams where the result could go either way. Annoying to lose but there we go. Now I wasn't there, but going on the radio Leeds were better than us they won the midfield battle, kept our very good strikers quiet and missed a hat full of chances. I dont think saints are crap I think this match just proves we're not quite there yet. If we're in this legaue next year we will be Leeds.
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 I'm in favour of resting the key players in cup games when we have two games a week but (if memory serves me correctly) any player rested for the FA Cup game against Luton won't play first team football for 11 days which is too long IMO We have 7 games in January plus a possible replay at Luton so if we are to rest players I would expect it to be then. I'm confident that the management are aware of this and we may even have some new faces by the end of the month.
Window Cleaner Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 (edited) ????????????? You can stick in all the question marks you want. Facts are facts, we only have the same number of total points as the 6th and last play-off place (cos Swindon will get at least 1 from 2 games) We need at least 10 more than all the others from 24 games and that is a tall order. Edited 19 December, 2009 by Window Cleaner
St Landrew Posted 19 December, 2009 Author Posted 19 December, 2009 Just listened to a rather hoarse Pardew on Solent. Watched the same game as I heard again, and IMO, called it right again. He's obviously disappointed though, as he thought we could have played a bit better, but watch out for sides to come.
Window Cleaner Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Now I wasn't there, but going on the radio Leeds were better than us they won the midfield battle, kept our very good strikers quiet and missed a hat full of chances. I dont think saints are crap I think this match just proves we're not quite there yet. If we're in this legaue next year we will be Leeds. Our midfield has no imagination without Morgan,they are industrious and adequate but without his vision that's about it.
St Landrew Posted 19 December, 2009 Author Posted 19 December, 2009 You can stick in all the question marks you want. Facts are facts, we only have the same number of total points as the 6th and last play-off place (cos Swindon will get at least 1 from 2 games) We need at least 10 more than all the others from 24 games and that is a tall order. Which just happens to be the same as the penalty we were saddled with. With our form, not counting today, we will still make the play-offs, IMO. Possibly with room to spare. It's a long season. But the good form must continue.
Red&White Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 You can stick in all the question marks you want. Facts are facts, we only have the same number of total points as the 6th and last play-off place (cos Swindon will get at least 1 from 2 games) We need at least 10 more than all the others from 24 games and that is a tall order. oooooooooer too much caffeine/red meat ?:wink:
St Landrew Posted 19 December, 2009 Author Posted 19 December, 2009 What's that bike on your avatar, Red & White..?
Arizona Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Colchester away 28th December, Huddersfield home 9th January Difference = 12 days Has the Brentford game not been moved to the Tuesday after the cup game? On the coach home, pretty sh*t performance TBH, our best chance was Harding's effort, which was the last kick of the match. Can't remember getting an effort on target. Really poor performance from the front six. Laxitive midfield and Teflon attack. The defense was actually pretty good and Bart made one brilliant save at the start of the second half. Waigo was complete sh*te. Bart - 7 Little to do, but dealt with what came his way. One great save. Thomas - 7 Deserves a medal for playing with Waigo in front on him. Perry - 7 Read the game well but got beaten in the air on occasions. Some key interceptions on Beckford first half. Jaidi - 7 It's a tie with him and Harding for my MOTM. Both reliable. Harding - 7 Joint MOTM, very good defensively, won us a couple of corners. Nearly leveled at the end. Waigo - 3 Hopeless. Possitionally terrible, kept drifting in towards the centre of the pitch. Wasted the ball. Hammond - 5 Passing was way off, never got hold of the midfield James - 4 As above, made quite a few mistakes. Lallana - 4 Forgot he was there for a lot of the time. Had a couple moves, but didn't create much by way of chances. Lambert - 5 Didn't win many of the hoofs aimed at him. Put one effort just wide in injury time. Connolly - 4 Trying to win headers against players a foot taller than him. Subs: Antonio - 5 Not much of an improvement. Gobern and Trottman - No time, no impact.
Window Cleaner Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Which just happens to be the same as the penalty we were saddled with. With our form, not counting today, we will still make the play-offs, IMO. Possibly with room to spare. It's a long season. But the good form must continue. I hope you're right,I think we'll fail by 2 or 3 points and that will just bring home the effect of the capitulation against Bristol Rovers or the disaster against Brighton. We will pay for those performances. Sad but then that's football.
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 What's that bike on your avatar, Red & White..? It just looks red to me.
Whitey Grandad Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Has the Brentford game not been moved to the Tuesday after the cup game? Tuesday 26th January.
Jimmy_D Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Trying to work out why I don't feeel too bad at all, and am just looking at the teams above Saints, but outside of the playoff zone. Most of them have not taken advantage. Most have drawn, rather than winning, and Bristol Rovers and MK Dons lost. Brentford climbed above Saints by beating MKDs. Only Millwall and Swindon did well. I think Carlisle didn't play. The fact that a loss is a distict rarity these days for Saints, and it was an honest even match that could have gone either way, helps as well.
saintrich Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 For those saying we were unlucky I disagree. We defended reasonably well and matched Leeds for the most part but had nothing in the final third. Becchio had two great chances with headers in the first half that went just over and wide respectively and if beckford had beenonhis game they could have had more as he was clean through a couple of times , thankfully he was sulking. James' distribution was dire and Thomas kept drifting to centre back leaving papacwaigo to track back And stifle our own chances onthe counter. We were average, Leeds weren't much better. Target for next time...have A shot on target.
Window Cleaner Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 What's that bike on your avatar, Red & White..? Some sort of Ducati ??
St Landrew Posted 19 December, 2009 Author Posted 19 December, 2009 It just looks red to me. That's a description, matey. I'm not colour blind, neither is my monitor that old.
Give it to Ron Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 doubt that, the play-offs are really a remote shot now.We could be 10 points behind the lead pack if Swindon get anything at all from 2 games. Then there's a big pack just behind who are all just a couple of points away. They won't all go into free-fall. But we also have to play Swindon at home....that's a 6 pointer!
alpine_saint Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 No disgrace in losing 1-0 to the league leaders. Just need to get a couple of good results before the end of the year. The good thing is that we are still 9 pts from the play-off places so we have not lost any ground on the real target. Agreed. My feelings exactly.
Saints foreva Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Has the Brentford game not been moved to the Tuesday after the cup game? On the coach home, pretty sh*t performance TBH, our best chance was Harding's effort, which was the last kick of the match. Can't remember getting an effort on target. Really poor performance from the front six. Laxitive midfield and Teflon attack. The defense was actually pretty good and Bart made one brilliant save at the start of the second half. Waigo was complete sh*te. Bart - 7 Little to do, but dealt with what came his way. One great save. Thomas - 7 Deserves a medal for playing with Waigo in front on him. Perry - 7 Read the game well but got beaten in the air on occasions. Some key interceptions on Beckford first half. Jaidi - 7 It's a tie with him and Harding for my MOTM. Both reliable. Harding - 7 Joint MOTM, very good defensively, won us a couple of corners. Nearly leveled at the end. Waigo - 3 Hopeless. Possitionally terrible, kept drifting in towards the centre of the pitch. Wasted the ball. Hammond - 5 Passing was way off, never got hold of the midfield James - 4 As above, made quite a few mistakes. Lallana - 4 Forgot he was there for a lot of the time. Had a couple moves, but didn't create much by way of chances. Lambert - 5 Didn't win many of the hoofs aimed at him. Put one effort just wide in injury time. Connolly - 4 Trying to win headers against players a foot taller than him. Subs: Antonio - 5 Not much of an improvement. Gobern and Trottman - No time, no impact. Hmm well that doesn't sound promising. Exeter and Colchester are must wins if we want to get to the play offs.
St Landrew Posted 19 December, 2009 Author Posted 19 December, 2009 Just heard Hammond on Solent. He's disappointed not to have won or at least drawn. Chris Perry was also of the same attitude. I like that. That attitude will keep this team on track.
Window Cleaner Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Agreed. My feelings exactly. You are ignoring the fact that Swindon have 2 games in hand. We have lost ground today.Not on the same teams but lost ground all the same. We've lost ground on Bristol Rovers, Swindon, Norwich and probably Colchester
St Landrew Posted 19 December, 2009 Author Posted 19 December, 2009 You are ignoring the fact that Swindon have 2 games in hand. We have lost ground today.Not on the same teams but lost ground all the same. We've lost ground on Bristol Rovers, Swindon, Norwich and probably Colchester Ooh dear, if you're going to pick holes, then be sure. Bristol Rovers lost, as did MK Dons. Agreed that Swindon have 2 games in hand.
Neilza Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 (edited) Just on the coach back now, dissappointed by the performance today. Perry IMO marked Beckford out of the game, only giving him half chances, hence he was taken off and then threw a strop. Defence forwards we were poor, Connolly had no decent service, Lambert didnt want to try and win the ball in the air, which today was alot of the time! Hammond wasn't at the races, 1 yard off the pace most of the time. James is ok but you only realise how much Morgan brings to the team when he isn't playing. Oh well, we'll get em next time! Edited 19 December, 2009 by Neilza
Thedelldays Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 I would say playoffs are a real possibility with this team and this amount of games to go.. unless of course, we are scared of swindon..lol
alpine_saint Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 You are ignoring the fact that Swindon have 2 games in hand. We have lost ground today.Not on the same teams but lost ground all the same. We've lost ground on Bristol Rovers, Swindon, Norwich and probably Colchester I aint ignoring anything. This was a creditable result against the leagues run-away leaders. Being scared of the "threat" of Swindon is pathetic. We will be competing for a play-off place after Xmas. If you reckoned we were just going to breeze past Leeds and everyone else you are a bit dim.
Weston Saint Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Very disappointed. Did not see the game so cannot comment on performance but this was our chance to set a marker against arguably the best team in this league and we failed. Simple as that.
Window Cleaner Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 I would say playoffs are a real possibility with this team and this amount of games to go.. unless of course, we are scared of swindon..lol We shouldn't be, that's just what the bad start means,we'll be struggling to finish above Swindon and Millwall.I don't know Swindon's fixture list but it could well be that they finish the half-season with 10 or more actual points than us. We've got much better as time has gone on but there are still some results that shouldn't happen--well happening. As a result we needed to go to Leeds today and get something.I thought starting Waigo was a bad move, he had no place in today's game,looking at Arizona's "scores on the doors" just goes to confirm that.We should have started with Wotton or even Trotman in front of the back 4 because Waigo was sure to be a fart in a thunderstorm today.
Thedelldays Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 I still feel we need to give one or two players a rest...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 i had a gut feelin we would not just lose today but lack any real fluency going forward. morgan was a major miss today. he gets us playing the right way and keep hold of the ball. with out him it seems we lack that confidence on the ball hence why we start hoofing.
alpine_saint Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Very disappointed. Did not see the game so cannot comment on performance but this was our chance to set a marker against arguably the best team in this league and we failed. Simple as that. Isnt that a little OTT, R ?
Thedelldays Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 losing 1-0 away to leeds is far from failure ffs
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