Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 December, 2009 Posted 24 December, 2009 Thats ridiculous. He should be getting at least £50 million. He would only waste it on injury prone players like Connolly and Murty! Or spend it on players that cant get in our side ala Mellis!
Window Cleaner Posted 24 December, 2009 Posted 24 December, 2009 He would only waste it on injury prone players like Connolly and Murty! Or spend it on players that cant get in our side ala Mellis! Did we pay anything at all for any of those players?. The three of them put together probably don't cost us as much as Razsiak.
Scoobysaint Posted 24 December, 2009 Posted 24 December, 2009 Would love us to convince Robert Lewandowski to join but sure Saga would warn him off!
Scoobysaint Posted 24 December, 2009 Posted 24 December, 2009 We should offer Giles Barnes a contract Already training with Brum!
markr27 Posted 25 December, 2009 Posted 25 December, 2009 What about Andros Townsend, currently on loan to Leyton Orient from Spurs? Very quick left winger (I think he broke away to set up the second goal during the 2-2 in October) and his deal expires Dec 31st.
david in sweden Posted 25 December, 2009 Posted 25 December, 2009 You can be certain that every agent knows we have money and are looking upwards. Therefore any player who could be attracted to us will be being touted as we speak. I can't follow the English leagues as closely as I'd like,so I can't gice suggestions, but AP seems to have done a good job so far. No-one should moan about a loan player or a free who doesn't make the grade. The ones to complain about are those who cost piles of money and can't do the job ! Carry on Alan - I trust your judgement anyway.
SuperSAINT Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Pards issued a 'no comment' yesterday regarding the loan status of Trotman, Antonio & Mellis after the game.
DrZuess1979 the 2nd Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Pards issued a 'no comment' yesterday regarding the loan status of Trotman, Antonio & Mellis after the game. Trotman was waving goodbye
Arizona Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Pards issued a 'no comment' yesterday regarding the loan status of Trotman, Antonio & Mellis after the game. Trotman was waving goodbye At the risk of looking like a simpleton, aren't their loans until at least the end of December, meaning they can still play tomorrow against the Us? I'd like to keep Trotman. He may not be a world beater now, but he has shown great form in patches and just needs concistency. He certainly shows more potential and composure than certain other centre halves of a similar age (Davenport and Lancashire).
oxfordshire_saint Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Trotman was waving goodbye Certainly looked that way. I'd sign Antonio, see if we can extend Mellis' loan (worth having as cover, if Chelsea don't mind that!) but I think we'd be better off letting Trotman go back and signing a new CB with a bit more composure.
SuperSAINT Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 I'd keep Trots too, but it was always the plan for Preston to have him back in January, i believe. I'm massively greatfull for having him here. He really started to make a difference for us when he joined. Just what we needed after that Swindon game! One would hope that Pards has a replacment lined up. I feel Chelsea may take Mellis back - He's not really played enough. He's very good attacking cover from midfield though. (I wonder if Rooney Jnr is the potential replacement for Mellis?) And as for Antonio? If he goes, we'll be badly lacking in the right-wing department.
Matthew Le God Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 At the risk of looking like a simpleton, aren't their loans until at least the end of December, meaning they can still play tomorrow against the Us? Yep, Trotman can play tomorrow but those 30,000 Saints fans won't be at Colchester's ground for him to potentially say goodbye to if that is what he was doing.
Chez Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 At the risk of looking like a simpleton, aren't their loans until at least the end of December, meaning they can still play tomorrow against the Us? I'd like to keep Trotman. He may not be a world beater now, but he has shown great form in patches and just needs concistency. He certainly shows more potential and composure than certain other centre halves of a similar age (Davenport and Lancashire). he's a ball winner even if that means fouling now and then. For me he had a great game yesterday and if he is availabe till the end of the season its a no brainer. Prefer him to Thomas and Perry. There are better players out there but are they available?
Panda Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Would it not be good to be able to stop this loan thing now and make permanent signings and so start to build a settled side? Stop gaps for three months at a time is not a long term strategy if you want to get back to the 'prem'. Let the loans go, none has excelled, and buy replacements who will stay a couple of seasons. Our five year plan to get back to the top needs three years to get out of where we are and consolidate in the Championship before reaching the goal. Who we buy now should be good enough to take us to mid-table Championship. No more short term loans please!
Arizona Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Not sure if anyone has mentioned on this thread, but can we bring Jan Paul Saeijs back please.
Matthew Le God Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Not sure if anyone has mentioned on this thread, but can we bring Jan Paul Saeijs back please. I think we can do better now. He wasn't that great.
Chez Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Not sure if anyone has mentioned on this thread, but can we bring Jan Paul Saeijs back please. great shout, was excellent for us last season and a league lower he is going to be a stand out player. Perry or Seijs? Get him back.
Chez Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Would it not be good to be able to stop this loan thing now and make permanent signings and so start to build a settled side? Stop gaps for three months at a time is not a long term strategy if you want to get back to the 'prem'. Let the loans go, none has excelled, and buy replacements who will stay a couple of seasons. Our five year plan to get back to the top needs three years to get out of where we are and consolidate in the Championship before reaching the goal. Who we buy now should be good enough to take us to mid-table Championship. No more short term loans please! whats wrong with loans? Much rather a short term loan of high quality than getting a lessor player in on a permenent. Once you have them they often turn to **** and you can't get rid.
Thatchamsaint Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Trottman is returning to Preston for definite, he told me so himself after the match to quote him "Preston want me back on Tuesday"
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Yep, Trotman can play tomorrow but those 30,000 Saints fans won't be at Colchester's ground for him to potentially say goodbye to if that is what he was doing. I'd wager we start with Perry and Jaidi tomorrow.
Arizona Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 I think we can do better now. He wasn't that great. He was wreckless at times, but I think he had to be with the team he had around him. A lot of last ditch tackles were needed, which invariably lead to penalties. I liked him. He was committed and could win the ball in almost any situation. Took a mean set piece too.
merrimd Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 The really exciting thing is that we are not getting all het up about which of our better players are leaving, whereas most of the teams above us will be crapping themselves until the window closes. That is going to be really significant come the end of the season me thinks.
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 (edited) Trottman is returning to Preston for definite, he told me so himself after the match to quote him "Preston want me back on Tuesday" could be that they just want some of our cash, and why should they not? They're getting 12-13 K gates (against our 20K average). Why should they let us keep one of their saleable assets for free (other than paying him).They loaned us Trotman and then wefound a million quid for Lambert, perhaps Preston think we are extracting the urite. I expect us to have considerable difficulty getting good loans this January, certainly not from teams that don't get our gates and have need of ready money.On th other hand plenty of crap players will be available for loan as usual in January. Edited 27 December, 2009 by Window Cleaner
Kingsland Red Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Kevin Phillips looks to be one of those released by Brum as they clear the decks and spend some of that £40m. Not sure how old he is or whether we are able to forgive, but a good impact player as we know to our cost. Certainly the type of striker we need to complement Lambert, Connolly and Papa.
Window Cleaner Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Kevin Phillips looks to be one of those released by Brum as they clear the decks and spend some of that £40m. Not sure how old he is or whether we are able to forgive, but a good impact player as we know to our cost. Certainly the type of striker we need to complement Lambert, Connolly and Papa. 36 going on 37 is too old, let him drift away as a bit part player for some CCC wannabee.We already have our quota of old men.
SuperMikey Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 (edited) Jeremie Aliadiere has just been released by Middlesbrough, maybe HCDAJFU? Wages might be an issue, but i'm still an admirer of his footballing talents, and wanted us to sign him when he left Arsenal. Also, what about... Febian Brandy (loan) Craig Mackail-Smith Jermaine Easter Darius Vassell Eddie Johnson (loan/buy) I realise that Vassell and Johnson may be slightly unrealistic, Vassell especially, but they could both be class, as would any of these players. They're all the pacy, Jermaine Beckford type strikers that I think we're lacking at this club, and although David Connolly is a fox-in-the-box, he's not got the pace he once had. Edited 27 December, 2009 by SuperMikey
Chez Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 36 going on 37 is too old, let him drift away as a bit part player for some CCC wannabee.We already have our quota of old men. you won't get a bigger SKP fan than me but even I agree with you. Pace and power is what we need. Connelly offers the finishing prowess already.
doughnutman Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 I read in the papers that Sean St Leger is returning to PNE, surely that would heighten our chances of keeping Trotman?
derry Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Now that Sean St Ledger has gone back to Preston, as Strachan doesn't want him and even though he has already cost Middlesborough £2m initial fee, it may well be that Trotman would be available. I must say though I think we should be looking for a substantial centre back to give us real strength at the back.
Pat from Poole Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Jeremie Aliadiere has just been released by Middlesbrough, maybe HCDAJFU? Wages might be an issue, but i'm still an admirer of his footballing talents, and wanted us to sign him when he left Arsenal. Also, what about... Febian Brandy (loan) Craig Mackail-Smith Jermaine Easter Darius Vassell Eddie Johnson (loan/buy) I realise that Vassell and Johnson may be slightly unrealistic, Vassell especially, but they could both be class, as would any of these players. They're all the pacy, Jermaine Beckford type strikers that I think we're lacking at this club, and although David Connolly is a fox-in-the-box, he's not got the pace he once had. There is no way that MK Dons would sell Jermaine Easter to us. Unfortunately. However, Bernard from a pretty skint Southend may be an option.
skintsaint Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Now that Sean St Ledger has gone back to Preston, as Strachan doesn't want him and even though he has already cost Middlesborough £2m initial fee, it may well be that Trotman would be available. I must say though I think we should be looking for a substantial centre back to give us real strength at the back. Lets get Sean St Ledger instead..
Saints foreva Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Jeremie Aliadiere has just been released by Middlesbrough, maybe HCDAJFU? Wages might be an issue, but i'm still an admirer of his footballing talents, and wanted us to sign him when he left Arsenal. Also, what about... Febian Brandy (loan) Craig Mackail-Smith Jermaine Easter Darius Vassell Eddie Johnson (loan/buy) I realise that Vassell and Johnson may be slightly unrealistic, Vassell especially, but they could both be class, as would any of these players. They're all the pacy, Jermaine Beckford type strikers that I think we're lacking at this club, and although David Connolly is a fox-in-the-box, he's not got the pace he once had. Eddie Johnson isn't slightly unrealistic atall, the thing is though - he is a terrible striker. Thankfully he is being linked with Peterborough.
SuperMikey Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 There is no way that MK Dons would sell Jermaine Easter to us. Unfortunately. However, Bernard from a pretty skint Southend may be an option. Barnard would be great, but I originally posted that list on the Leeds match thread to show players like Beckford who we could get minus his attitude, wages and hefty transfer fee. And I reckon we could prise Easter away from MK Dons. We got Lambert from Bristol Rovers and Hammond from Colchester didn't we? :wink: Eddie Johnson isn't slightly unrealistic atall, the thing is though - he is a terrible striker. Thankfully he is being linked with Peterborough. He's not brilliant, but he would be good in this league. His finishing isn't the greatest, but his pace would tear up the slow defences, and he's built like a brick sh*thouse as well for a striker, so he wouldn't snap like a twiglet if he's on the receiving end of a nasty challenge. No harm on getting him in on loan until the end of the season to give us a few more options in attack. That's definitely the department we need to strengthen, because although RB and CB need strengthening too, we have relatively good cover for those positions. We don't really have that luxury for strikers. If Lambert or Connolly or both were to be injured, we'd be completely screwed. If James were to sustain an injury that would keep him out for a couple of weeks, we'd have Wayne Thomas to fill in at RB, or a fit Graeme Murty (but i'm not sure he'll ever be fit again). Same goes with Jaidi, we'd have a plethora of defenders to fill in for him.
Badger Posted 27 December, 2009 Posted 27 December, 2009 Barnard would be great, but I originally posted that list on the Leeds match thread to show players like Beckford who we could get minus his attitude, wages and hefty transfer fee. And I reckon we could prise Easter away from MK Dons. We got Lambert from Bristol Rovers and Hammond from Colchester didn't we? :wink: ..... because although RB and CB need strengthening too, we have relatively good cover for those positions. We don't really have that luxury for strikers. If Lambert or Connolly or both were to be injured, we'd be completely screwed. If James were to sustain an injury that would keep him out for a couple of weeks, we'd have Wayne Thomas to fill in at RB, or a fit Graeme Murty (but i'm not sure he'll ever be fit again). Same goes with Jaidi, we'd have a plethora of defenders to fill in for him. I'm not so sure we would have as many defensive options as you suggest.Trottman is off back to PNE,and Thomas according to another thread might be heading off up north.That leaves the ageing Perry,Lancashire (?) and an untried Aaron Martin as CB options.That looks a little depleted to me. Elliot Ward probably remains a target for us as aCB. As for strikers,I can't see MK selling to us although Wouldn't be surprised by either Barnard or Simeon Jackson.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Jason Puncheon from MK Dons would be a great midfield signing, however he's on season long loan from Plymouth so probably not available until the summer. Could probably snap him up for £500k.
Tac-tics Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Jason Puncheon from MK Dons would be a great midfield signing, however he's on season long loan from Plymouth so probably not available until the summer. Could probably snap him up for £500k. It's been written about a million times 999,999 times by me. It's public knowledge Pardew rates him.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 It's been written about a million times 999,999 times by me. It's public knowledge Pardew rates him. Only problem is - where would he fit in? He's a left side player I think, so would Lallana move to the right?
Tac-tics Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Only problem is - where would he fit in? He's a left side player I think, so would Lallana move to the right? He is considered a play maker and does play central sometimes - rotate with Lallana frequently mid game?
Ado Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Heard today that we are looking at liam feeney from bournemouth
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Carl Baker (Stockport) they are skint, he is quality
shurlock Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Carl Baker (Stockport) they are skint, he is quality You actually seen him play? Think he's distinctly ordinary and by all reports he's already signed for Coventry.
saint_boysie Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 I was in a box on saturday to watch the boys, moving from the Northam stand block 42 where I have a season ticket, anyway, we got kicked out at 6:20pm due to the bar closing, and as we where outside waiting for our lift, we saw Trotman and Antonio, spoke to both of them, and Trotman said he has to go back to Preston on Monday as they said no to an extension.. but he played today so I think he is fibbing! or its next monday! and Antonio said he is not sure what the situation is. They both want to stay though! and Trotman said if he did go back and we end up playing them next season he promised he wouldn't celebrate if he scored!
Andy_Porter Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 Only problem is - where would he fit in? He's a left side player I think, so would Lallana move to the right? We need cover for Lallana, just to give him a rest every now and then, from what I saw of him today he realy shouldn't have played. But then i'd rather have Lallana at 75% than Holmes or Mills fully fit. We essentially need 16-18 players who are good enough to play in the first team without losing too much if we're going to get promoted wether it's this season or next. We can't be relying on the likes of Mills, Holmes, Paterson, Wotton etc
Genk Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 So, how many player's do you think we will have signed by the Huddersfield game? 9th Jan. I'll go for one centre back.
Pat from Poole Posted 28 December, 2009 Posted 28 December, 2009 So, how many player's do you think we will have signed by the Huddersfield game? 9th Jan. I'll go for one centre back. None. I would expect the business to be done in the last couple of days of the window. Teams will be holding out for silly money from Saints. I would be very surprised if we signed more than two players in the January window.
Mouldy Coat Posted 29 December, 2009 Posted 29 December, 2009 AP should be given 20 million to spend in Jan if the board has any ambition. I disagree, we should sign 5 players that cost £6M - £7M each to make sure of promotion. If the board don't release this sort of money then they are just a bunch of publicity seeking ****s lol
Chez Posted 29 December, 2009 Posted 29 December, 2009 anyone seen that Craig Dawson fella at Rochdale? Defender with 9 goals interests me.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 29 December, 2009 Posted 29 December, 2009 There will be more games like this one until AP sorts the squad out completely. Hopefully that will happen in January. Key issues are poor defence make-up and an unbalanced midfield. In short we need a RB, CB, CAM, LW, RW and a large mobile striker. Trouble is we also have OK players that are a bit of a luxury as they take up a squad place yet they not good enough or not suitable to do a basic job. I refer to James, Waigo, Wotton, Antonio, Thomas for example. Even Lallana is a bit of an enigma - is he a winger, central mid, striker? He is a great player but who do you sacrifice to allow him a place? For me this is significant issue for AP - what is his first choice midfield four/five?
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