Thedelldays Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 That won't suit everybody. They all want to play and score goals. Lallana has just 3 goals less than Beckford,we don't need any more strikers cos we'd have no room for them in the side. Fortunately AP knows that and won't be doing anything silly. how do you know..?
Tac-tics Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 what would you rather have: Beckford for £1.5 -£2million and possibly high wages? Lee Barnard £800k (guess)
Window Cleaner Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 how do you know..? He told me so,;);)
Thedelldays Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 what would you rather have: Beckford for £1.5 -£2million and possibly high wages? Lee Barnard £800k (guess) the one who will score us more goals..
Tac-tics Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 the one who will score us more goals.. who offers more though? barnard is technically sound, I have no idea about pace and presence.
Thedelldays Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 who offers more though? barnard is technically sound, I have no idea about pace and presence. beckford MUST be pretty good..with the goals he scores for the top team in the league and wanted by CCC and maybe prem clubs not many CCC or prem clubs came calling for lambert..not saying he is better than lambert but beckford must be pretty good.. I would be amazed if the club were offered beckford at a price they thought was acceptable and turn it down
Rasiak-9- Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Beckford would be a great signing I just can't see us having enough appeal to a player who wasn't really that keen on staying with Leeds as he believes he's playing below himself. He's about 27 or so now and I really cannot for the life of me seeing him sign himself up to what probably will be at least another 1 and a half seasons in the third tier of english football when Premiership clubs are interested in him.
verlaine1979 Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 It would be better to spend a couple of million on Simeon Jackson than Beckford - he's scored fewer, but is younger, quicker and probably has less of an ego at this stage in his career, so would be less likely to rock the boat.
up and away Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Originally Posted by Window Cleaner Because we have Connolly who's got a few goals in not a lot of games. What we don't want to do is make our squad top heavy,not that it already isn't. A CD and a RB are really all we need. behave...we have to rest connolly for some games and he is getting older. beckford offers real pace up front and bangs 'em in also how good would it be picking 2 from lambert, connolly and beckford..? And you would still have the same issues we saw at Leeds, without a midfield to supply them, it's totally pointless. We have got more than enough options up front, even with injuries, what we do not have is a consistent midfield because all the load is placed on Hammond and playing every game to boot. Get a decent RB in and defensive midfielder and we will have no problem with the squad we have. Paul Ifil's contract with Colchester is up soon, could be a cheap option and he was not too bad for us previously. Newcastle and Wolves have been looking at Beckford and we do not even come into the picture for him on that basis for the January window. Not a hope in hell for January, after that it may be on?
Window Cleaner Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 It would be better to spend a couple of million on Simeon Jackson than Beckford - he's scored fewer, but is younger, quicker and probably has less of an ego at this stage in his career, so would be less likely to rock the boat. We don't need any more strikers because we are amongst the highest scoring teams in our division.We are in the middle packet when it comes to conceding goals. So what exactly is the priority?? Yep defenders, so that when the strikers we do have score 2 goals in a game we don't lose 3-2 or draw 2-2. Fortunately the club is being run by sensible men who aren't just striker crazy.
RedAndWhite91 Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 I thought Beckford would be a great signing before I went up to Leeds on Saturday. His attitude was a disgrace, he sulked around the pitch and when he got taken off after a lacklustre performance his behaviour of shrugging away Grayson and storming down the tunnel proved up his obvious attitude problem. Sod him. Simeon Jackson would be a much better signing, if we could pull it off.
RedAndWhite91 Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 And we definitely need a right back... I don't rate James at all. With Murty injured we started with Thomas as right back on Saturday and he kept getting sucked into the centre, meaning Waigo had to come back deep and cover. Right back should be a priority imo.
shurlock Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Midfield > Defense > Forward CM> RB> CF > CB in that order of priority.
verlaine1979 Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 We don't need any more strikers because we are amongst the highest scoring teams in our division.We are in the middle packet when it comes to conceding goals. So what exactly is the priority?? Yep defenders, so that when the strikers we do have score 2 goals in a game we don't lose 3-2 or draw 2-2. Fortunately the club is being run by sensible men who aren't just striker crazy. Ahh y'see, I didn't say anything about where I feel investment is most needed in January, I just said that if we were thinking of spending a couple of million on Beckford, I think Jackson would actually be the preferable investment. However, by my count, there are 4 teams that have scored the same number of goals as us or greater, and 5 teams who've conceded the same number or fewer, so our achievements in both categories are much closer than your estimate. Being sensible is easy when you look at the numbers, provided the numbers have something definitive to say...
Thedelldays Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 We don't need any more strikers because we are amongst the highest scoring teams in our division.We are in the middle packet when it comes to conceding goals. So what exactly is the priority?? Yep defenders, so that when the strikers we do have score 2 goals in a game we don't lose 3-2 or draw 2-2. Fortunately the club is being run by sensible men who aren't just striker crazy. we have two first team strikers...how on earth would signing another be "striker crazy"
John B Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 we have two first team strikers...how on earth would signing another be "striker crazy" I totally agree we have no other ones to take the pressure off Lambert and Connolly
hypochondriac Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 we have two first team strikers...how on earth would signing another be "striker crazy" Exactly. Some people are crazy.
hypochondriac Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 We don't need any more strikers because we are amongst the highest scoring teams in our division.We are in the middle packet when it comes to conceding goals. So what exactly is the priority?? Yep defenders, so that when the strikers we do have score 2 goals in a game we don't lose 3-2 or draw 2-2. Fortunately the club is being run by sensible men who aren't just striker crazy. Do you not think we will sign a striker in January? Bet you a fiver we do.
Under Weststand Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 I would prioritise a RB Paul Ifil or Johnny Mullins. We need a CB, Defensive midfielder Gary Dicker from Brighton would be Ideal. Simeone Jackson would be nice up front. Probably a bit much to expect all that, but we can hope.
shurlock Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Do you not think we will sign a striker in January? Bet you a fiver we do. We'll buy a striker if we sign a few players - who doesn't. But midfield is where we're weakest -both as cover for the CBs and linking play up top. Nobody asks what would happen if we lost Hammond. We would be royally f**ked. And who knows if Schneiderlin's good form is going to continue - he was being slated only a month or so ago. At least, up top we have options (Waigo has looked good with Lambert so has Lallana while Antonio went up top against Walsall). And if necessary we can comfortably switch to 4-5-1.
hypochondriac Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 We'll buy a striker if we sign a few players - who doesn't. But midfield is where we're weakest -both as cover for the CBs and linking play up top. Nobody asks what would happen if we lost Hammond. We would be royally f**ked. And who knows if Schneiderlin's good form is going to continue - he was being slated only a month or so ago. At least, up top we have options (Waigo has looked good with Lambert so has Lallana while Antonio went up top against Walsall). And if necessary we can comfortably switch to 4-5-1. I never disputed that. Window cleaner says we don't need a striker and that by signing one we would be going "striker crazy". That's a mental thing to say.
jam Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 We'll buy a striker if we sign a few players - who doesn't. But midfield is where we're weakest -both as cover for the CBs and linking play up top. Nobody asks what would happen if we lost Hammond. We would be royally f**ked. And who knows if Schneiderlin's good form is going to continue - he was being slated only a month or so ago. At least, up top we have options (Waigo has looked good with Lambert so has Lallana while Antonio went up top against Walsall). And if necessary we can comfortably switch to 4-5-1. We'd be even more royally f**cked if Lambert got injured.
Thedelldays Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 We'd be even more royally f**cked if Lambert got injured. indeed...but buying a striker would be "striker crazy"
Saint_clark Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 indeed...but buying a striker would be "striker crazy" F*ck, have we got a log jam of strikers again?
shurlock Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 We'd be even more royally f**cked if Lambert got injured. If we could only sign one player, which position would it be?
NickG Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Beckford would be a great signing I just can't see us having enough appeal to a player who wasn't really that keen on staying with Leeds as he believes he's playing below himself. He's about 27 or so now and I really cannot for the life of me seeing him sign himself up to what probably will be at least another 1 and a half seasons in the third tier of english football when Premiership clubs are interested in him. looked him up as was surprised thought he was only nipper - 26. Thought he was a lot younger.
jam Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 If we could only sign one player, which position would it be? In that extremely unlikely event then probably a centre back with some legs.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 If we could only sign one player, which position would it be? Right Back id say, oh actually with Trottman returning maybe a CB.
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Why are people discussing Beckford? do you really think there is a chance he would come to Saints? There are plenty of other strikers in League 1 that would be realistic signings.
aintforever Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 If we could only sign one player, which position would it be? Easily a striker, if Lambert got injured our play-off hopes would vanish in an instant.
saintkiptanui Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Why are people discussing Beckford? do you really think there is a chance he would come to Saints? There are plenty of other strikers in League 1 that would be realistic signings.Yeh, think he would, did you forget we're rich??? don't want him, rather that simeon bloke, sounds like a sex machine (sybian).
Thedelldays Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Yeh, think he would, did you forget we're rich??? don't want him, rather that simeon bloke, sounds like a sex machine (sybian). :smt116
saintkiptanui Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 :smt116 I'm gonna buy my missus one for chrimplesticks, female ejaculation all over the shop.
John B Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 If we are going to sign players with regard to getting promoted surely we should be after Championship standard players
SuperSAINT Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 It would be better to spend a couple of million on Simeon Jackson than Beckford - he's scored fewer, but is younger, quicker and probably has less of an ego at this stage in his career, so would be less likely to rock the boat. Very good point. I honestly think Leeds would laugh at us if we bid 2 million for Beckford. 1.5 million would probably be enough to land Jackson.
Colinjb Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Very good point. I honestly think Leeds would laugh at us if we bid 2 million for Beckford. 1.5 million would probably be enough to land Jackson. Doubt they would laugh, he is out of contract in the summer and can leave for free if he wants to.
benjii Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Leeds would accept an offer of £2m from us without a doubt. He is leaving at the end of the season anyway and we are not competing with them for a top 2 spot. Not saying we will, or should, sign him but an offer in that region would be accepted I suspect.
saints-cris Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Not sure if he's been mentioned in this thread, haven't trawled all the way through. Aaron McClean though ? Probably a little ambitious, but he wants out of Peterborough. Not sure if he'd want to drop down a division though.
S-Clarke Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Not sure if he's been mentioned in this thread, haven't trawled all the way through. Aaron McClean though ? Probably a little ambitious, but he wants out of Peterborough. Not sure if he'd want to drop down a division though. Would be good...but P'boro have said today he's up for sale - at £4m!!! can't see anyone signing him for that...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 If we are going to sign players with regard to getting promoted surely we should be after Championship standard players But there are plenty of those playing in League 1. Lambert and Hammond for example.
Chez Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Beckford looked good to me. Yes he didn't score and yes he had a tantrum when subbed, but he has genuine pace, made excellent runs and had a very good first touch. I'd take him like a shot, but he won't come here.
Chez Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 But there are plenty of those playing in League 1. Lambert and Hammond for example. do you really think Hammond is CCC standard? Is that the general consensus on here? For me he's a decent footballer, but he's too slow.
jam Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 do you really think Hammond is CCC standard? Is that the general consensus on here? For me he's a decent footballer, but he's too slow. He seems to have dropped off somewhat (at least at home), almost since he was made captain.
Chez Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 He seems to have dropped off somewhat (at least at home), almost since he was made captain. he was very very average against Walsall and Leeds IMO. I like him, he's got a great first touch,passes the ball well and is a good footballer. However, he runs like he's in treacle, that short stride of his means he looks quicker than he is, and thats why so many tackles are sliding tackles.
saints-cris Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Would be good...but P'boro have said today he's up for sale - at £4m!!! can't see anyone signing him for that... Agreed, 4 million for a bloke who wants out seems a bit steep. 2 million and I'm sure it'd be worth a punt.
Badger Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 I would prioritise a RB Paul Ifil or Johnny Mullins. We need a CB, Defensive midfielder Gary Dicker from Brighton would be Ideal. Simeone Jackson would be nice up front. Probably a bit much to expect all that, but we can hope. Isn't this the role Chris Lines plays at Bristol Rovers ? As we've recently been linked with him as well.
John B Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 do you really think Hammond is CCC standard? Is that the general consensus on here? For me he's a decent footballer, but he's too slow. Not sure myself
SaintJackoInHurworth Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Why do people keep going on about Beckford? After seeing him last night and following the stewards comments about him needing five chances before he gets a decent shot on goal, he is NOT the sort of player we need! Let him be bought by some Championship or Premiership outfit for them to discover his distinct lack of class. In my opinion he is a poor man's Ade Akenbyi or Jason Lee! The following web page lists the ten worst Premier League strikers ever (complete with Ali Dia!). If Beckford were to play in the Premiership he would be sure to join the list! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1219047/THE-LIST-The-worst-strikers-played-Premier-League-Nos-10-1.html As for the question of who/what we could do with signing in the transfer window, I would suggest that midfield is a priority. We need more cover for our creative players - one injury and we are severely lacking in this area. If possible, we could do with signing a decent winger. Waigo and Antonio are ok, but they are not true wingers and they are fairly inconsistent. We need someone with some flair to take on players and get in some decent crosses - especially on the right hand side. I think we are fairly well covered in central midfield, so we only need sign a player here who is better than what we already have. Right back is another priority as cover for Murty. Similarly, I wonder what would happen if Harding got injured - maybe we need to buy another left back as cover in that position. I disagree that another striker is a priority. We have got Lambert and Connelly, possibly the two best strikers in the division together with Lallana and Waigo who can play up front if needed. I doubt we will find much better than that!
Genk Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 I really rate Simeon Jackson and would love to see him sign for us. Beckford would obviously be nice to have but I don't think it's going to happen. A quick CB has got to be the priority.
SB Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 ‘Grayson subbed him in 70th minute, he stood and stared and didn't go off, then walked off at the pace of an 80 year old and smashed Graysons hand away when he put his hand out to shake it. Disappeared down the tunnel. Leeds fans booed him straight away and started singing Graysons name . Petulent little ****, not played well in weeks.’ In my opinion that isn’t the type of player Southampton need, appears to be another Dyer, Best etc, also is known for underperforming in big matches. Surely Southampton could pick up a more gifted player with the correct attitude for under 1.5 million?
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