Andyb1 Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I wasn't at the match but was horrified to hear about this boy being on the pitch. There are a few issues here: 1. Where were his guardians and why didn't they stop this from happening? Presumably they think it is ok for pitch invasions. Maybe the way they allow their child to run amok at the football is the way they allow the boy to act on the street or in school? 2. If one person (no matter of age) invades the pitch it can encourage others to follow causing trouble 3. The boy could have been hurt - whose fault would it have been then? The stewards? The clubs? I can guarantee that these sort of people would be the first complaining if something had happened to him. 4. And most importantly, the boy is learning behaviours now, as all children do, which will stay with him for life. He is learning that it is ok to run onto a pitch, to break the rules and act like a lout. He has been rewarded by the laughs from the crowd and the shirt from Papa. He will continue to act like this until he is stopped and his behaviour corrected. Will it still be cute and funny when he is 9? What about 12? What about 15? 27 etc etc. What about if he comes on brandishing a pole and hits one of the underperforming players? Will that be cute and funny? The club must take action now before this becomes an epidemic of poor behaviour. The boy should be banned for a year. The guardians should be banned for year. The stewards should be told to keep a tight control on pitch invasions, no matter of age. Papa should be fined a weeks wages. Let's not allow this sort of thing to become the norm at the club. And let us not mistake what it was - a socially irresponsible act carried out by ruffians. LOL, please tell me you are joking?
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Finally some sense (after my rantings last night in the post-match thread). The kid was goaded on by a bunch of 'lads' who had moved down to the front of Kingsland and were giving the stewards a hard time. Didn't see his parents anywhere in sight. I'd be mortified if any child of mine ran onto the pitch during a match. Antonio's miss IMHO was a direct result of this situation. Had we not won I'm sure others on here who are now saying "It's a bit of a laugh" would have a different opinion. Added to that this really set the way for a few more mindless idiots running onto the pitch at full time and the stewards and police having to tackle them. I hope they are banned. Will be interesting to hear if Papa was taken to one side after the match about his antics with the kid. Even after a nights sleep you can't see this as an over reaction? LET IT GO MAN
Turkish Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I wasn't at the match but was horrified to hear about this boy being on the pitch. There are a few issues here: 1. Where were his guardians and why didn't they stop this from happening? Presumably they think it is ok for pitch invasions. Maybe the way they allow their child to run amok at the football is the way they allow the boy to act on the street or in school? 2. If one person (no matter of age) invades the pitch it can encourage others to follow causing trouble 3. The boy could have been hurt - whose fault would it have been then? The stewards? The clubs? I can guarantee that these sort of people would be the first complaining if something had happened to him. 4. And most importantly, the boy is learning behaviours now, as all children do, which will stay with him for life. He is learning that it is ok to run onto a pitch, to break the rules and act like a lout. He has been rewarded by the laughs from the crowd and the shirt from Papa. He will continue to act like this until he is stopped and his behaviour corrected. Will it still be cute and funny when he is 9? What about 12? What about 15? 27 etc etc. What about if he comes on brandishing a pole and hits one of the underperforming players? Will that be cute and funny? The club must take action now before this becomes an epidemic of poor behaviour. The boy should be banned for a year. The guardians should be banned for year. The stewards should be told to keep a tight control on pitch invasions, no matter of age. Papa should be fined a weeks wages. Let's not allow this sort of thing to become the norm at the club. And let us not mistake what it was - a socially irresponsible act carried out by ruffians. i think we may have just found the next Peter Sutcliffe, Ted Bundy, Ed Geins and Adolf Hitler all rolled into one. Lets hang the deliquent now to save him from commiting further crimes against god and man in the future. What about if there were any pedophiles in the stands? Surely kids run onto the pitch is only encouraging more of them to come to footbal matches (come probably being an inapportiate word) On a more positive note though if the youngun does get banned we now have the youngest "fan" on a banning order in the country taking Pompeys crown after their 11 year old was banned in 2004. Another reason for bragging rights.
Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 i think we may have just found the next Peter Sutcliffe, Ted Bundy, Ed Geins and Adolf Hitler all rolled into one. Lets hang the deliquent now to save him from commiting further crimes against god and man in the future. What about if there were any pedophiles in the stands? Surely kids run onto the pitch is only encouraging more of them to come to footbal matches (come probably being an inapportiate word) On a more positive note though if the youngun does get banned we now have the youngest "fan" on a banning order in the country taking Pompeys crown after their 11 year old was banned in 2004. Another reason for bragging rights. wiltshire is joking...not one of his posts are serious
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 (edited) The steward let the little kid keep running to the players. It was a bit of comic relief. They were a lot quicker to bring down the bigger lads at the end of the match. ...And of course people never run on the pitch after an exciting game of football... Northwich Victoria v Charlton? 2009 Players held aloft after the virtory Hereford v Newcastle 70's Sutton v Coventry 80's/90's Saints v Arsenal 2001 West brom v Saints 2008 .... and so on and so on Stewards should be better trained to disguish between joy and Anger - their actions of chasing often just adds to the chaos - The spirit of the invasion can be judged. Personally I'm sure the churches of Southampton will be packed over the festive season with all these holier than thou posters who just see the negative side in everything really brings me down. Hypothetical arguments of 'what would have happened if we had lost' have no place..... what has happened has happened so lets just enjoy the win, the feeling and Papa's genuine good will! Edited 16 December, 2009 by ooohTerryHurlock
Joensuu Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Think it's all fine for the lad to have run onto the pitch. However he's had his fun now (several times). If it were to happen again I think the club would have to look into it.
Matthew Le God Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 ...And of course people never run on the pitch after an exciting game of football... The game was still happening when the kid ran on. Wayne Thomas was still to take a penalty.
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 The game was still happening when the kid ran on. Wayne Thomas was still to take a penalty. see my editto my original post!
Tokyo-Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Same kid from Walsall...funny once....twice.....but three times. Someone have a word!
Sour Mash Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Don't you consider -10 points to be a serious issue ? I do. ***** stars to Papa Waigo for making light of it, and de-fusing the situation. What's our -10 points got to do with this? Wrong thread mush.
Sour Mash Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Finally some sense (after my rantings last night in the post-match thread). The kid was goaded on by a bunch of 'lads' who had moved down to the front of Kingsland and were giving the stewards a hard time. Didn't see his parents anywhere in sight. I'd be mortified if any child of mine ran onto the pitch during a match. Antonio's miss IMHO was a direct result of this situation. Had we not won I'm sure others on here who are now saying "It's a bit of a laugh" would have a different opinion. Added to that this really set the way for a few more mindless idiots running onto the pitch at full time and the stewards and police having to tackle them. I hope they are banned. Will be interesting to hear if Papa was taken to one side after the match about his antics with the kid. I hope you're banned.
tonibell Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Police should have tasered him. Then sent him of to barnardos kids home. That would teach him.. But was a bit of harmless fun
Tractor_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I hope you're banned. Is that it? Banned for what and from where?
Tractor_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Even after a nights sleep you can't see this as an over reaction? LET IT GO MAN *sigh* and after a nights sleep you don't see this any more than just a young sweet innocent child having a laugh of which we should applaud and encourage?
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Think it's all fine for the lad to have run onto the pitch. However he's had his fun now (several times). If it were to happen again I think the club would have to look into it. This. He may be a kid, but we can't let it keep on happening. Was funny, but it won't be if it happens again and again and again.
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 *sigh* and after a nights sleep you don't see this any more than just a young sweet innocent child having a laugh of which we should applaud and encourage? Do you agree though, that if it keeps on happening with the same lad, he should at least be given a final warning?
tonibell Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Do you agree though, that if it keeps on happening with the same lad, he should at least be given a final warning? yes then if he does it again a Football Banning Orders :mad:
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 yes then if he does it again a Football Banning Orders :mad: I'm guessing that was sarcasm? No matter what his age, if it is happening week in week out, SOMETHING has to be done about it. It was all a good laugh and nice to see Waigo picking him up, but no-one is above the law as they say.
ChrisPY Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I wasn't at the match but was horrified to hear about this boy being on the pitch. There are a few issues here: 1. Where were his guardians and why didn't they stop this from happening? Presumably they think it is ok for pitch invasions. Maybe the way they allow their child to run amok at the football is the way they allow the boy to act on the street or in school? 2. If one person (no matter of age) invades the pitch it can encourage others to follow causing trouble 3. The boy could have been hurt - whose fault would it have been then? The stewards? The clubs? I can guarantee that these sort of people would be the first complaining if something had happened to him. 4. And most importantly, the boy is learning behaviours now, as all children do, which will stay with him for life. He is learning that it is ok to run onto a pitch, to break the rules and act like a lout. He has been rewarded by the laughs from the crowd and the shirt from Papa. He will continue to act like this until he is stopped and his behaviour corrected. Will it still be cute and funny when he is 9? What about 12? What about 15? 27 etc etc. What about if he comes on brandishing a pole and hits one of the underperforming players? Will that be cute and funny? The club must take action now before this becomes an epidemic of poor behaviour. The boy should be banned for a year. The guardians should be banned for year. The stewards should be told to keep a tight control on pitch invasions, no matter of age. Papa should be fined a weeks wages. Let's not allow this sort of thing to become the norm at the club. And let us not mistake what it was - a socially irresponsible act carried out by ruffians. 18 is the next number in the sequence, not 27.
Hamilton Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 He could of been carrying a knife. ;-) He could have been carrying a knife.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I wasn't at the match but was horrified to hear about this boy being on the pitch. There are a few issues here: 1. Where were his guardians and why didn't they stop this from happening? Presumably they think it is ok for pitch invasions. Maybe the way they allow their child to run amok at the football is the way they allow the boy to act on the street or in school? 2. If one person (no matter of age) invades the pitch it can encourage others to follow causing trouble 3. The boy could have been hurt - whose fault would it have been then? The stewards? The clubs? I can guarantee that these sort of people would be the first complaining if something had happened to him. 4. And most importantly, the boy is learning behaviours now, as all children do, which will stay with him for life. He is learning that it is ok to run onto a pitch, to break the rules and act like a lout. He has been rewarded by the laughs from the crowd and the shirt from Papa. He will continue to act like this until he is stopped and his behaviour corrected. Will it still be cute and funny when he is 9? What about 12? What about 15? 27 etc etc. What about if he comes on brandishing a pole and hits one of the underperforming players? Will that be cute and funny? The club must take action now before this becomes an epidemic of poor behaviour. The boy should be banned for a year. The guardians should be banned for year. The stewards should be told to keep a tight control on pitch invasions, no matter of age. Papa should be fined a weeks wages. Let's not allow this sort of thing to become the norm at the club. And let us not mistake what it was - a socially irresponsible act carried out by ruffians. The biggest 'ROFL' EVER - Thank you Wiltshire.
SNSUN Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I thought it was hilarious and so did most of the people around me. In fact I was so busy watching the kid get carried away that I missed Antonio's penalty (and I'm sure it was because I ahdn't kissed my lucky charm). It was comic relief IMO, a kid that got too caught up in the excitement of the game. If, however, it does continue in future games, then it will need to be stamped out, one way or the other. I'm all for fun, but rules is rules.
Micky Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Got to be one of the funniest threads ever. If the young lad, or 25 of his close friends invade the pitch at the next match, or sometime soon in the future - then I will chastise them and want them publically hung. Until then, I wish him good fortune, happy memories of supporting his team - he probably now has the present that all 5 - 7 year olds wanted for christmas. It is the season of goodwill to all men, technically he was in the wrong, but personally I think that his over-enthusiasm should be overlooked as the moment added to the night. Any right minded adult should be able to distingquish between a malicious act and pure high jinks - I'm pretty sure I know what this was. Merry Christmas to you all.
bender Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I was near where he ran from and I cant believe his Dad didnt come over to the touch line and claim him when the steward was carrying him back. If that was my boy, I would be worried sick and wouldnt have been happy at that steward carrying him the way he did. You cant blame the kid, just his CHT dad.
Matthew Le God Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Got to be one of the funniest threads ever. If the young lad, or 25 of his close friends invade the pitch at the next match, or sometime soon in the future - then I will chastise them and want them publically hung. Until then, I wish him good fortune, happy memories of supporting his team - he probably now has the present that all 5 - 7 year olds wanted for christmas. It is the season of goodwill to all men, technically he was in the wrong, but personally I think that his over-enthusiasm should be overlooked as the moment added to the night. Any right minded adult should be able to distingquish between a malicious act and pure high jinks - I'm pretty sure I know what this was. Merry Christmas to you all. So if the pitch gets invaded for every game at St Mary's from now until the end of season whilst the game is still going on, by large numbers of young children you'd be happy with that? Not cracking down on offenders(in this case the parents) sets a very bad precedent.
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Daily Echo reporter refusing to leave without a fight? Lmfao!!!!!!
Tractor_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I was near where he ran from and I cant believe his Dad didnt come over to the touch line and claim him when the steward was carrying him back. If that was my boy, I would be worried sick and wouldnt have been happy at that steward carrying him the way he did. You cant blame the kid, just his CHT dad. I was sat within spitting distance of the lad and am pretty sure that he wasn't with a parent and there weren't any 'responsible adults' that I could see ...
Ponty Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 there weren't any 'responsible adults' that I could see ... That's a given, if his dad was there or not, tbh.
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I'd be pretty ashamed if that was my kid. So where did you get that Papa Waigo shirt Ponty...
John D Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 This. He may be a kid, but we can't let it keep on happening. Was funny, but it won't be if it happens again and again and again. As above - its the third time I've seen him on the pitch in 3 games (northampton, Walsall and last night) - will have gone past innocent youthful exuberance if it happens again
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 *sigh* and after a nights sleep you don't see this any more than just a young sweet innocent child having a laugh of which we should applaud and encourage? Watch Saints Player and see what AP makes of it..... I think his comment was something like 'It made my night, absolutely fantastic'..... i'll go with AP at the moment!
Tractor_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 i'll go with AP at the moment! Yup - AP has gone down in my estimations with that comment. Let's encourage people to run onto the pitch each game and impress the manager. What a muppet. It's a football pitch not a fecking playground.
Matthew Le God Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Watch Saints Player and see what AP makes of it..... I think his comment was something like 'It made my night, absolutely fantastic'..... i'll go with AP at the moment! So you are in favour of children repeatedly invading the pitch whilst the game is not finished?
ladysaint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Sure AP wouldnt have felt the same if he had heard him singing the Harry Roberts song at Blackpool a season or two ago. Like to see him get on the pitch at Leeds and as others have said he has got on the pitch a couple of times away from SMS this season.
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 As above - its the third time I've seen him on the pitch in 3 games (northampton, Walsall and last night) - will have gone past innocent youthful exuberance if it happens again Pretty loyal supporter then!! I saw a clip from Leyton orient on SP and thought I saw someone run on the pitch and then back into the crowd... so it looks like he is somehow marking his visits to away grounds by clocking up an appearance on the pitch.... but to be fair still really can't see the harm in it! He's a nipper... and as we all know, we go through little rights of passage... this is his! A little word maybe,anything other that this would be a complete PC over reaction to the situation......thank **** some of you are n't my dad!
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Yup - AP has gone down in my estimations with that comment. Let's encourage people to run onto the pitch each game and impress the manager. What a muppet. It's a football pitch not a fecking playground. AP leads us on one of the best runs we have ever been on and he goes down in your estimations!!! one hell of a comment. What is the saying...pride comes before a fall... just give it up , man. You are in a very small minority of people who just can'texcept this is a little bit of 'high spirits'- not a massaive crime. You have massively over reacted and the comment about AP is just outstanding. I expect AP got a couple of descriptive words for you!
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 So you are in favour of children repeatedly invading the pitch whilst the game is not finished? I think he only invaded it once??(last night)! I think I prefer them invading the pitch to banging their seats up and down for ninety odd minutes:rolleyes: Seriousily I would not actively encourage it at every game but after watching football for best part of 35 years,I know that sometimes the game can take you over.... its a PASSION,therefore by definiton it can grip your emotions.... And like I have said it is the spirit or the intention of the invasion. No harm was intended by the boy, it is simply a dare or a bit of fun. It is the hysterical over reaction of some of the do gooders on here that is just so unbelievable Put it this way, if we get complete the march to the arch, even it the dulux trophy,I will be that excited I know where I'll be headed....
Matthew Le God Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I think he only invaded it once??(last night)! I think I prefer them invading the pitch to banging their seats up and down for ninety odd minutes:rolleyes: Seriousily I would not actively encourage it at every game but after watching football for best part of 35 years,I know that sometimes the game can take you over.... its a PASSION,therefore by definiton it can grip your emotions.... And like I have said it is the spirit or the intention of the invasion. No harm was intended by the boy, it is simply a dare or a bit of fun. It is the hysterical over reaction of some of the do gooders on here that is just so unbelievable Put it this way, if we get complete the march to the arch, even it the dulux trophy,I will be that excited I know where I'll be headed.... Have you forgotten he didn't run on the pitch out of joy at Saints winning? The penalty shoot out was still in progress.
Tractor_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 just give it up , man. You are in a very small minority of people who just can'texcept this is a little bit of 'high spirits'- not a massaive crime. You have massively over reacted and the comment about AP is just outstanding. I expect AP got a couple of descriptive words for you! Tell you what - you give it up first. And how do you know what AP would say? More than happy to have an adult discussion with him on this subject which is, unfortunately, not something I think you can have on these forums.
Tractor_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 (edited) I think he only invaded it once??(last night)! Christ - I'm in the minority and TH has had a go at three separate people in the last few minutes? I'm also very very happy that I'm not your dad. Let's just hope you don't procreate. Edited 16 December, 2009 by Tractor_Saint
Matthew Le God Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Those that are laughing this off answer this question... What if the stewards ignored him on Tuesday and a different youth or number of youths take his lead and ran onto the pitch whilst the game was happening against Exeter and stopped Saints scoring because the ref halted play? Would you laugh it off then? Remember on Tuesday the game wasn't over at the point he ran on. A few penalties were still to be taken. So he clearly wasn't celebrating a Saints win, because they hadn't at that point.
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Christ - I'm in the minority and TH has had a go at three separate people in the last few minutes? I'm also very very happy that I'm not your dad. Let's just hope you don't procreate. Do you know what minority means?? Your not very bright are you? It means the oppostie of the general consensus which seems to be in this case that no harm was done so let it lie! I have already procreate... and I am happy that my little girl has a dad that will measure each situation on its merits and not hysterically over react to situation,i also feel this is part of being an adult to make sure the suggested punishment fits the crime..... ... suggesting a 5/6/7/8 year old gets banned from trotting on the pitch! ... what next a hand chopped of for touching a sticky bun? .... tongue cut out for using a naughty word? just live a little man
RedAndWhite91 Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Those that are laughing this off answer this question... What if the stewards ignored him on Tuesday and a different youth or number of youths take his lead and ran onto the pitch whilst the game was happening against Exeter and stopped Saints scoring because the ref halted play? Would you laugh it off then? Remember on Tuesday the game wasn't over at the point he ran on. A few penalties were still to be taken. So he clearly wasn't celebrating a Saints win. To be fair, just before he ran on all the players started to run towards Bart, then they realised we hadn't won yet. It was then when the kid ran on the pitch.
Matthew Le God Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 (edited) i also feel this is part of being an adult to make sure the suggested punishment fits the crime..... ... suggesting a 5/6/7/8 year old gets banned from trotting on the pitch! Of course you can't ban a child of that age running onto the pitch. However I think it would be perfectly acceptable to ban the parents/guardians of that child from the stadium for a period of time. People are fined/jailed for not getting children to school, so a ban for them not controlling their children to enter the field of play(a criminal offense) during a game is reasonable and fits the crime. Edited 16 December, 2009 by Matthew Le God
Tractor_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I have already procreate... and I am happy that my little girl has a dad that will measure each situation on its merits and not hysterically over react to situation I think my 'over-reaction' is partly down to the fact that you're not even contemplating that what this kid has done was wrong and you, as a father, wouldn't have a problem if your little girl did the same thing. Perhaps we're from two different backgrounds but I was always been taught to play by the rules and if I had run onto the pitch with my dad in the crowd I wouldn't have been held aloft as a hero, I'd be regretting the day that I ever ran onto the pitch when the game was still in play. Oh, and as for questioning my educational background, I have a degree and have been employed with the same company for the past 14 years so I guess I must have pulled the blinkers over their eyes. Stick to football insults please and don't question my intelligence.
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Those that are laughing this off answer this question... What if the stewards ignored him on Tuesday and a different youth or number of youths take his lead and ran onto the pitch whilst the game was happening against Exeter and stopped Saints scoring because the ref halted play? Would you laugh it off then? Remember on Tuesday the game wasn't over at the point he ran on. A few penalties were still to be taken. So he clearly wasn't celebrating a Saints win, because they hadn't at that point. Totally different situation to be judged on its individual merits IF it happens!
stknowle Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I'm getting a little bit ****ed off with the level of seriousness some people feel about this. Especially the decent posters I thought would of laughed it off and enjoyed the moment. It was pretty nice to see something genuine instead of someone just invading the pitch aswell as Papa's reaction. Seriously lighten up. Your right. The kid has my full backing and should continue to invade the pitch at crucial moments. Ideally he should start wearing fancy dress from now on to add to the intrigue/enjoyment. His first outfit should be Madame Cholet from 70's kids classic 'The Wombles' and he should headbutt Leed's GK whilst thus attired as he prepares to take a goal kick this sat.
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 To be fair, just before he ran on all the players started to run towards Bart, then they realised we hadn't won yet. It was then when the kid ran on the pitch. Thats the way it came across on the radio as well.... a lot of confusion about where they were with the state of the game.... every one knows footballers can't count!
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