Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 We lost to Derby 2-1 in the first leg, beat them 3-2 in the second leg and lost the decider on penalties. HTH then we drew with torquay and Norwich 2-2 HTH
saintwarwick Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 then we drew with torquay and Norwich 2-2 HTH Nope hence our progression to the next rounds of this competition, only the winners progress to the next round. HTH
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 We lost to Derby 2-1 in the first leg, beat them 3-2 in the second leg and lost the decider on penalties. HTH So Derby Won the Play-Off Semi-Final? And we lost. Simple game football ain't it...
Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Nope hence our progression to the next rounds of this competition, only the winners progress to the next round. HTH im talking about the game on the night we won (so we are being told) soo...burley was even worse than we have him credit for...
Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 are norwich in the next round? no!. then we won Q) Are we through to the Southern area final? A) Yes So yes we won...............No brainer? We won, we're in the next round, it's not hard. ******** to dull days are norwich going to wembley ........ no we are therefore we win were going to wembley were going to wembley youre not youre not We are through to the area final, norwich arn't, so the answer is YES what.........? Only one team goes through to the next round and that is the winners, HTH. seems LGTC knows his stuff So Derby Won the Play-Off Semi-Final? And we lost. Simple game football ain't it...
saintwarwick Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 So Derby Won the Play-Off Semi-Final? And we lost. Simple game football ain't it... Nope Derby won one game of football, we won game of football and because the two results were tied we needed a decider, simple innit.
Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Nope Derby won one game of football, we won game of football and because the two results were tied we needed a decider, simple innit. Only one team goes through to the next round and that is the winners, HTH. you change your mind
saintwarwick Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 what.........? seems LGTC knows his stuff So you posted 6 for and 1 against, conclusive against your argument :
saintwarwick Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 you change your mind Never changed my mind once and if you read all my posts and quote them (which you won't as it doesn't suit your negative argument) you will find I have quoted on complete different scenarios, something you obviously missed :
Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Never changed my mind once and if you read all my posts and quote them (which you won't as it doesn't suit your negative argument) you will find I have quoted on complete different scenarios, something you obviously missed : how am I negative..I am happy we won... I was expecting this sort of form at the start of the season..when all those around here laughed, laughed so much at me
saintwarwick Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 how am I negative..I am happy we won... I was expecting this sort of form at the start of the season..when all those around here laughed, laughed so much at me At least we are in agreement at last :
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Nope Derby won one game of football, we won game of football and because the two results were tied we needed a decider, simple innit. The clue dear boy is highlighted. The tie was decided. We lost the tie. Derby won. Can you seriously say we drew the play-off semi-final... no. Did England lose to Argentina and Portugal, yes, yes a million times yes. Did we beat Norwich, yes, yes, yes. We are through. We won. I can't concieve that people are even debating this... the rules say the WINNER will be decided by penalties. Only bookies dispute these things, I wonder why.....
channonball Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 With so few wins in the past 5 years, I'll take a penalty shoot out as a win. Who are the current world football champions, because Italy only drew in normal time? Does that make Italy the world penalty champions? Technically with your arguments you could win the FA cup without winning a single game?
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 The match is over when the final whistle blows. All the rest is for statisticians to argue over.
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Technically with your arguments you could win the FA cup without winning a single game? Yes, quite possible.
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 The match is over when the final whistle blows. All the rest is for statisticians to argue over. Considering the ref only gave two peeps on his whistle after 93 minutes and a full three blasts after Thomas slotted his penalty home, I assume you mean we won then
RonManager Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -ok, better now.
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I just happened to be reading through the 'Laws of the Game' and I came across this definition. 'The team scoring the greater number of goals during a match is the winner. If both teams score an equal number of goals, or if no goals are scored, the match is drawn.'
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 ... immediately followed by this: When competition rules require there to be a winning team after a match or home-and-away tie, the only permitted procedures for determining the winning team are those approved by the International F.A. Board, namely: • away goals rule • extra time • kicks from the penalty mark
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 ... immediately followed by this: When competition rules require there to be a winning team after a match or home-and-away tie, the only permitted procedures for determining the winning team are those approved by the International F.A. Board, namely: • away goals rule • extra time • kicks from the penalty mark Exactly, for determining the WINNING team.
SNSUN Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Realistically last night was a draw. However we won the tie, as the tie includes penalties. You COULD say tha Papa scored a hattrick last night...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Right I just asked a guy at the FA and he said that last nights game was a big fat draw. Thats final now - from the horses mouth
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 No you didn't. I did - just rang up the number on the website. Some guy called Ian Watmore? answered. He seemed quite nice and said "yes it was a draw"
Hatch Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 There can't be a poll on this anyway, A poll is a guide of opinions, in this case , the answer is not an opinion but a fact. Draw is the answer.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 There can't be a poll on this anyway, A poll is a guide of opinions, in this case , the answer is not an opinion but a fact. Draw is the answer. That seems very final - Closed
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Classic Saints Fookwit forum thread.
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 There can't be a poll on this anyway, A poll is a guide of opinions, in this case , the answer is not an opinion but a fact. Draw is the answer. The result of 90 minutes was a tie. To determine the WINNER of the tie, penalties ensued. Therefore, when asked: "who won last night?" - the correct answer is Southampton won the tie. The tie was not drawn or there would be a replay. Whereas, I have it on good authority from my mate who sells Johnstone's Paint (and to be fair also Dulux and Crown, and that expensive stuff for stately homes) that we are in the Area Final. Did anyone genuinely get home at midnight and when asked by their missus: "Who won?" actually reply: "No-one, it was a draw". And if they say yes, they are liars because noone that stupid could get married unless to Jordan and she was married to Peter Andre until very recently.
SNSUN Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 We drew the game, we won the tie. The tie was basically two legs, with one match, and one penalty shoot-out. Taking Einstein's Theory of Relativity into account, and introducing it with Professor Stephen Hawking's work on black holes, I can categorically state that I am bored with this debate. :-)
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Classic Saints Fookwit forum thread. I agree - classic
OldNick Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Classic Saints Fookwit forum thread. yeah but was it a draw or a win. I wonder if the players get a win bonus in this case
CB Fry Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 (edited) The clue dear boy is highlighted. The tie was decided. We lost the tie. Derby won. Can you seriously say we drew the play-off semi-final... no. Did England lose to Argentina and Portugal, yes, yes a million times yes. Did we beat Norwich, yes, yes, yes. We are through. We won. I can't concieve that people are even debating this... the rules say the WINNER will be decided by penalties. Only bookies dispute these things, I wonder why..... LOL. Talk about take the bait*. No-one apart from the windup merchants on this forum think it was a draw and no-one apart from the windup merchants are making out they are sat in the pub saying we didn't win. So lawd knows why you and others feel the need to spout this obviousness. But the technical answer is the match last night finished in a draw and the tie was decided on penalties. That's why the final score wasn't 9-7 and the goals Lambert and all the other penalty scorers won't count in their tally for the season. Because the match finished 2-2. It's on the official site, and the BBC and, well, everysoddingwhere. 2-2. But for the obvious brigade, we won last night. Thanks for telling us. Over and over again, in different shades of the blinkin obvious. Please, can people get over it. Edited 16 December, 2009 by CB Fry *I am aware of the irony in this statement.
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Would somebody please close this thread and let us all go up the pub and celebrate?
KK the 2nd Posted 17 December, 2009 Posted 17 December, 2009 The match was a draw but we won on penalties. Therefore the answer is NO and YES.
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