NickG Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 To be democratic, on the most contentious issue since the takeover, for future discussions on form; Did we win tonight? Yes? No?
modern matron Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 To be democratic, on the most contentious issue since the takeover, for future discussions on form; Did we win tonight? Yes? No? Sorry Nick what are you on about? Of course we won!
Judge_B Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Anyone that backed us to win otonight, take your ticket to the bookies tomorrow and try and get them to pay out. I think that should give the answer...
markr27 Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 i'd say it feels like a win due to the lateness of the equaliser and holding our nerve going second in the shootout! Torquay was a draw
It's There Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 We won...maybe bookies might no pay out after "normal time" , but being a cup competition one team had to go through...US! WE go marching on
modern matron Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 i'd say it feels like a win due to the lateness of the equaliser and holding our nerve going second in the shootout! Torquay was a draw We beat Torquay on penalties - it's the cup for crissakes!!!
It's There Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Wher is the Last 16 games thread, Nick? Come on, ignore the whingers!
CB Fry Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Yes, we won, but on Penalties. The match finished 2-2, which is a draw. If in doubt just ask yourself - will Lambert's penalty count on his end of season tally? No. Because Penalty shoot-outs are a mechanism to decide cup ties. They aren't part of a football match. If they were we'd have them in every single game. But did we win tonight - HELL YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Matthew Le God Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Nick, if we had lost on penalties tonight would you really have put it down as a loss in the form thread?
NickG Posted 15 December, 2009 Author Posted 15 December, 2009 Wher is the Last 16 games thread' date=' Nick? Come on, ignore the whingers![/quote'] was waiting for this! But if you insist!
VectisSaint Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 The match ended in a draw. In the event of a draw the tie is decided on penalties. So we drew the match, but went through on the tie-break rule. Simples.
locks heath saint 2 Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 bloody fantastic win and the prats that leave 3 mins before missed it hahahahhahahahahah COYR
hypochondriac Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Of course we won. Woot. I went f'ing mental.
SnailOB Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 I thought you had agreed on the word 'progressed' ?
NickG Posted 15 December, 2009 Author Posted 15 December, 2009 good, agreed we won. Had managed to convince myself I didn't care about JPT until we equalised (by the way it was more than 3 mins after the 90!)
Kelly Smunt Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 If anyone asks me how saints got on against norwich in the jpt, I will answer that we won on penalties. OK.
saint-luco Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 are norwich in the next round? no!. then we won
Colinjb Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 For the sake of a form table, We drew For the sake of everything that matters, WE F**KING WON!!!!!!!!!
benjii Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 To be democratic, on the most contentious issue since the takeover, for future discussions on form; Did we win tonight? Yes? No? Lol.
trousers Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 I would state what is factually correct but when I do the same about Boxing Day I get a load of people telling me the Oxford English dictionary is wrong. I'll keep my facts to myself from now on thank you very much
Torrent Of Abuse Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Anyone that backed us to win otonight, take your ticket to the bookies tomorrow and try and get them to pay out. I think that should give the answer... Anyone who thinks we didn't win should follow through on that belief and forfeit the right to buy tickets for the next round. After all, no win no next round. That should give you a different answer.
fromthedell Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 who cares where through !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Q) Are we through to the Southern area final? A) Yes So yes we won...............No brainer?
saint_stevo Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 We drew. But won on Pens. Result will say DRAW
fromthedell Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 the correct answer is that ................... we won the tie
RedAndWhite91 Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 We won, we're in the next round, it's not hard.
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 We won but nearly didn't thanks to that ragamuffin running on and putting Antonio off!!!
Mustapha Fag Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 ******** to dull days are norwich going to wembley ........ no we are therefore we win were going to wembley were going to wembley youre not youre not
saints triumph Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 We are through to the area final, norwich arn't, so the answer is YES
Rod Le Shearer Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Yes, we won, but on Penalties. The match finished 2-2, which is a draw. If in doubt just ask yourself - will Lambert's penalty count on his end of season tally? No. Because Penalty shoot-outs are a mechanism to decide cup ties. They aren't part of a football match. If they were we'd have them in every single game. But did we win tonight - HELL YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! whether Lamberts penalty is registered as a goal in the various lists,or not, is really imaterial. the issue here is much more simple,and the same as defines the result in a regular football match: the team who scores the most,by the rules set for that competition, wins the game. We DID Score 5 penalties,Norwich did only score 4. or would you disagree on this fact..? another fact that disproves your point,is the very obvious rule saying that THERE CAN`T POSSIBLY BE A DRAW in the JPT.one team has to win. how could you say that a match ends as a draw,when according to the rules of that competition there isnt that option available? It`s just the same as saying its a draw if a tennis match finish 6-6 in all sets. the Penalty shootout is very comparable to the tie-breaks. according to the rules no match will end as a draw. this match didnt "finish as a draw" as you stated either. the match lasted until the shootout was finished,only THEN was the match over.
SNSUN Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 My Norwich supporting missus wanted to kill me tonight. So yes, we won, and Norwich lost! Incidentally, I'm glad I didn't bet on this match, but I did have Man U, MK Dons and Leeds to win, and have won a few quid for Christmas pressies. :-D
SaintBobby Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 It was a draw. Neither penalties nor extra time count in official W/D/L statistics. E.g. 1990 World Cup semi-final was England 1-1 Germany, which counts as a draw in FIFA stats. HTH
krissyboy31 Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 About 2,000 people left the stadium believing we had lost.
SaintBobby Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Who won the last World Cup? Italy. The final ended in a 1-1 draw. HTH.
saintwarwick Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Italy. The final ended in a 1-1 draw. HTH. So Italy won the final then.
saintwarwick Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 It was a draw. Neither penalties nor extra time count in official W/D/L statistics. E.g. 1990 World Cup semi-final was England 1-1 Germany, which counts as a draw in FIFA stats. HTH Only one team goes through to the next round and that is the winners, HTH.
Red and White Army Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 We DID Score 5 penalties,Norwich did only score 4. or would you disagree on this fact..? I would dispute this "fact". Norwich scored 5, and we scored 6.
The9 Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 No, the match was a 2-2 draw, Saints won the tie on pens. It really isn't difficult. Bookies will have paid out on a draw, unless the bet was for a winner "on the night", in which case they pay out on the winner of the tie (and at shorter odds due to the lack of a drawn match option).
The9 Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 We won but nearly didn't thanks to that ragamuffin running on and putting Antonio off!!! That little tosser has been on the pitch for at least 4 games in the last month or so home and away and its getting very boring. If we'd have lost on pens he'd have probably been strung up, and rightly so. I was hoping the steward who carted him off quietly whispered "you made him miss that" to the kid, as Antonio can't help but have been affected by the idiots at the back of the Northam booing as he started his run up just as the steward hauled the kid off Waigo. That lot need to sort their priorities as well if they're too thick to think it might affect the player standing over the ball right in front of them when they've just spent 5minutes doing the same to the opposition in order to put them off. Anyway whatever stops the kid getting on the pitch yet again, I'm all in favour. Bloody good job we had a couple of goes at winning it as it turned out.
SaintBobby Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 So Italy won the final then. I really don't see what people find so difficult here. Or has this just become an in-joke semantic argument? Teams can be eliminated from competitions without losing matches or can progress in competitions without winning matches. For example, in the 1982 World Cup, in the second round, England drew 0-0 with West Germany and 0-0 with Spain. West Germany proceeded to the next round and England were eliminated. Did we lose 0-0 to Spain? When drawn matches were resolved by the toss of a coin rather than by penalties, did this mean teams were winning or losing matches 1-1 etc?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 So Italy won the final then. Italy won the world cup but drew the game! Likewise the ganmes against Torquay and last night vs Norwich was/are/is a DRAW Is 2-2 a draw? Yes - Thanks case closed! Good night
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