ooohTerryHurlock Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Penalties question - was it (in order): Lambert (goal) Papa (goal) James (miss) Lallana (goal) Wotton (goal) Antonio (miss) Hammond (goal) Thomas (goal) Is that right? If you spent more time watching the penalties that have some massive downer on a 5/6/7 year old you would know.... pay more attention to the game next time!
dronskisaint Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Just back in hotel room from the match - I live near Norwich now so relishing greeting my staff after driving back tomorrow! Couple of points...we were awesome in the first 20 mins - they could not live with us. We were hungry, chased down every ball & player. For some reason when the second didn't come it looked like we were missing something/one. Thought it might be the balance that Lloydy has been giving the midfield although I thought he had an excellent game at right back tonight.Spidy didn't really get in to it which may be another reason Then they scored & came out for the 2nd half & started being first to the ball as we had been - thought the ball dropped kindly for them & that their players started to get a touch agricultural...another ref (how sh*t was this one?) might easily have sent two players off but we weren't at all fluent. I was right next to the Holt (thought it was Martin?) incident at the end...he wasn't touched & the dirty crunt had been dishing it out all night! Poetic justice that we should win...they got their just desserts for a change although they were better (& luckier ) than us in the second half. And finally (though somewhat disjointedly) the kid....he was probably goaded in to doing what he did but did very little harm. He was frightened & crying when the stewards brought him back which made Papa's gesture at the end worth the entrance money - top man who went up hugely in my estimation. Great goals too...just seen them on SSN - great saves from Bart too - It's brilliant being a Saints fan isn't it?!!
Colinjb Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 what was the crowd 15,600 or so. Bet more will be out for a final though.
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 He was crap. So i shall say, he was crap. oh and slow. But did n't bottle his penalty? but you probably wished he had. You are entitle to say he was crap(today) and slow ... its the GO AWAY that is n't helpful or needed!
Ekelund24 Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Wow. That's not the Saints we're all used to. Since when did we have the character to score a late goal AND go on to win the game on penalties? Can't fault the effort of the lads tonight though, their attitude was spot on. Still, I can't help but feel we're very fortunate to have progressed tonight. Norwich were by far the better side for the majority of the game, and I have to admit, I think Pards got the tactics wrong. We were too narrow in midfield and we isolated Harding. Norwich had more than their fair share of possession and on another day, they would have won that in normal time. Having said that, we did well to claw our way back into the game, so full credit to the lads for that. Special mention to Waigo; took both of his goals brilliantly tonight, great to see his infamous celebration once more! And well done Bialkowski too! I haven't always been his biggest fan, but he was superb tonight. He commanded his area superbly and made some vital saves in the shoot-out. At this rate, Davis may have a job on trying to get back into the starting XI! Delighted to progress, now lets go the whole way and make it to Wembley. It would be fantastic to see Saints Vs Leeds in front of a sell-out crowd in the final. Here's hoping anyway! 100% agree with that, it seemed to me that we robbed them at the death (not that I'm bothered!!) Thought that we looked weak in midfield and they took advantage of that in parts BUT we showed excellent spirit to equalise and took some quality pens. Great last save by Bart
miserableoldgit Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Jammy Bastards! Is this a new range of biscuits??
Fowllyd Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 um.....we were ****e. Good first 20mins. Then we looked poor, backed off, Hoolahan came into it (best player on the park IMO) and we looked clueless, much like Swindon away..... Lambert spent the game getting outjumped and outmuscled by Doherty and Nelson with his back to goal. Looked like he needed help up there. Strange subs as well IMO, need a goal with 15mins left so we change our defence around completely, may have gone to 3 at the back but not sure exactly what happened. Harding LM? James LB? Waigo very good in fits and starts, at times looks like he has never played, and at others like a world beater. Reacted quickly to equalise. Nice foul throw....no offsides though. Wotton came on and was tripe. Utter Pony. Rubbish. GO AWAY. Mellis was missing, few nice touches but L1 doesn't seem to suit his style. Needs time and space. Lucky to be looking forward to an area final i'd say. Oh and the BBC think Harding scored the equaliser.....strange. Agree with much of that. After Morgan was replaced by Wotton for the second half, we looked way inferior to Norwich. They played a very fine passing game, with Hoolahan at the heart of pretty everything good that they did. And they cut through us far too easily. That said, we did insist for most of the second half on giving them all the space they wanted. We looked very good for the first 20 minutes or so; could maybe have scored a second in that time but didn't. The rest of the first half I saw as being pretty even. I do find it frustrating that we seem to revert to hoofing the ball up the middle far too readily. We did that for almost the entire second half tonight; given that our best spell coincided with our best passing football I find this hard to understand. On the positive side, of course, we kept right on till the death, and got our reward for perseverance. And I thought it was just hilarious that Holt's play-acting turn at our end helped us get that equaliser. He should have been booked for that, and thus sent off. Still, he got his just deserts in another, more fitting way...
saint_stevo Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 But did n't bottle his penalty? but you probably wished he had. You are entitle to say he was crap(today) and slow ... its the GO AWAY that is n't helpful or needed! Yes i wanted him to miss his penalty. Would have made my night.... I want him to GO AWAY. He is poor. Hope January comes and we can say goodbye. Offers nothing, not even as a battering ram or hacker
Roger Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Papa waigo man of the match for me. I thought he was class tonight. He wasnt offside once. The first goal he took very well and does seem to get in 'poacher' positions. What was that rubbish giving his goal to harding? Harding was miles away. I thought papa's pen was class too and the way he dealt with that youngster was class. Think its about time we realised the guy when he learns offside like tonight will be a real asset. He works very hard and also seems a great character who the players all like.
Tractor_Saint Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 (edited) Steve...its all part of the pressure of being a footballer - either you handle it or you don't. He will have to learn to block things like this out.As you say fortunately it does n't matter. But to be suggesting you ban a five year old kid who has got a little bit carried away/excited/confused is really quite annal and a prime example of why this country is such a mess. The guy has no common sense. I'm thirty seven and still find my self acting the idiot from time to time for a laugh. I guess thats the kid in me - and I guess i come from an era when it was n't against the law to run on the pitch and I can still remember that buzz of excitment on the last day of the season in getting onto the pitch and running around on the place where my hero's play.... perhaps the good news for us is that it seems we now five year olds that have hero's in red and white stripes again!!! OK, so - quoting the 'full original message' I'm 39 but won't step onto the hallowed turf, unless I'm invited (which I have been) Now, I don't think I'm annal or anal in any way. I have extremely good common sense and have made a living out of it. Maybe the problem I have is that I don't think that kid had a parent with them. He was goaded on by a bunch of teenagers to run on the pitch for a laugh. For me, I can do without that when it interrupts the flow of a game. But maybe I'm just living in the dark ages. Edited 15 December, 2009 by Tractor_Saint
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Yes i wanted him to miss his penalty. Would have made my night.... I want him to GO AWAY. He is poor. Hope January comes and we can say goodbye. Offers nothing, not even as a battering ram or hacker You weren't at Hartlepool then? or at Tranmere this Saturday when the gaffer put him on to do a job and he done it as asked. I suspect he won't go anywhere in january as AP seems to rate him a liitle.... at the moment I will go with AP'sjudgement against yours as he just seems to have the edge!
Tractor_Saint Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 (edited) If you spent more time watching the penalties that have some massive downer on a 5/6/7 year old you would know.... pay more attention to the game next time! On reflection they might have been 8 ? :smt040 Edited 16 December, 2009 by Tractor_Saint
saint_stevo Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 http://www.skysports.com/football/match_report/0,19764,11065_3216430,00.html "After taking the tie into a shoot-out Waigo was one of two Saints players to miss from the spot but substitute Wayne Thomas calmly rolled home the decisive kick." Quality reporting tonight
RedAndWhite91 Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 http://www.skysports.com/football/match_report/0,19764,11065_3216430,00.html "After taking the tie into a shoot-out Waigo was one of two Saints players to miss from the spot but substitute Wayne Thomas calmly rolled home the decisive kick." Quality reporting tonight FFS crap journalism, I could do a better job than half of these wasters. And they have Harding as the second scorer at the top, but in the report it says Waigo scored in the 93rd minute. FFS FFS FFS
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 OK, so (quoting the 'full original message' I'm 39 but respect the, unless I'm invited (which I have been), I won't step onto the hallowed turf. Now, I don't think I'm annal or anal in any way. I have extremely good common sense and have made a living out of it. Maybe the problem I have is that I don't think that kid had a parent with them. He was goaded on by a bunch of teenages to run on the pitch for a laugh. For me, I can do without that when it interrupts the flow of a game. But maybe I'm just living in the dark ages. I don't see how your origanal post about banning the kid is an example of a man with good common sense - I was n't there - I'm in wales and listened to it on the radio(saint player) but it did n't seem a big issue to the RS team and you are the only one who made such a draconian point. Boys will be boys and of all the things they get up to nowadays I think running onto a football pitch is pretty forgivable - try to remember some of the things you got upto when you were a kid and I'm sure, that unless you were some kind of choir boy, a rye smile might just creep across your face. Lets just celebrate the win
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 On reflection they might have been 8 ? :smt040 specsavers???
wild-saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I really really really hope Markus was there to witness this epic match Proof if ever to him that he did the right thing in buying the Saints and bound to burn the initials SFC in his heart forever !!! :smt040 He was there and I can confirm he was very excited when we equalised and also in the pen shoot out. Also heard soemthing interesting today that ML is buying a house in Chilworth. Apparently the one that Andy Cole had whilst he played at pompey. Clearly he is intending to stay a while and keep going to the games.
rich saints Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 as for the youngboy on the pitch could of cost us he keeps going on the pitch at away game and gets away with it if it was one of us nicked straught away he or his dad need get a banning order. great win though
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Wotton is sHi7. End of. I can already hear one of your half time motivational team talks already.... I expect AP is clearing his desk to allow the new saints manager Saint_stevo to take over with immediate effect!
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 He was there and I can confirm he was very excited when we equalised and also in the pen shoot out. Also heard soemthing interesting today that ML is buying a house in Chilworth. Apparently the one that Andy Cole had whilst he played at pompey. Clearly he is intending to stay a while and keep going to the games. How excited??....he did n't run on the pitch did he??
saint_stevo Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I can already hear one of your half time motivational team talks already.... I expect AP is clearing his desk to allow the new saints manager Saint_stevo to take over with immediate effect! You could motivate a cripple, but he would still be a cripple.
Tractor_Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I don't see how your origanal post about banning the kid is an example of a man with good common sense - I was n't there - I'm in wales and listened to it on the radio(saint player) but it did n't seem a big issue to the RS team and you are the only one who made such a draconian point. Boys will be boys and of all the things they get up to nowadays I think running onto a football pitch is pretty forgivable - try to remember some of the things you got upto when you were a kid and I'm sure, that unless you were some kind of choir boy, a rye smile might just creep across your face. Lets just celebrate the win I think that sums it up - you weren't there. The kid ran around the pitch ducking and diving around the stewards trying to catch him and laughing being goaded on by the bunch of teenagers that put him on the pitch. He got to the team lined up on the centrespot with the stewards closing in and all the players stood there not knowing what to do but then Papa picked him up (muppet IMHO). Yours disgracefully signing off for the night. TS PS can't remember a match or result quite like this before - COYR - "We're all going to Wembley" (28th March already in the diary).
saints_is_the_south Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 That'll teach you [and anybody else] to think about leaving early on this team. I wonder how many people missed a classic ending, just so they could get to their car without hinderence..? Wasn't leaving early, just simply walking down the steps towards the bottom of the stand as i do most games, was never going to leave before the FT whistle. HTH.
Matthew Le God Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Wasn't leaving early, just simply walking down the steps towards the bottom of the stand as i do most games, was never going to leave before the FT whistle. HTH. And obstructing the view of those that stayed?
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 We had a free-kick right by our own corner flag. If he'd just got on with the game, he'd have been back defending on his 18-yard line and then back right in the thick of it when the ball went further. When you've got a one-goal lead in the last minute of injury time and the opposition launch a free-kick into the area, you get everyone back, especially if they're as good as Holt is in the air. He would be good in defence too. He's the fattest fecker I've seen play since Micky Quinn!!!!
krissyboy31 Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Lol at Grant Holt! Cheating fat b@stard!!! Goal scored in the seconds added on for his blatant writhing trying to get Antonio (?) sent off.
shurlock Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 (edited) Was it the same kid who ran on the pitch after the Northampton game? At the time I thought sly little bast&rd - no steward would dare touch you. If it is he's obviously gaming the situation. if so ban him until he has the balls to go on the pitch as a consenting adult and run the risk of a proper decking as faces the rest of us.even better,in the meantime, why doesn't his father teach him the disciplinary wonders of the belt. Literally, he would be unable to move from his seat. Edited 16 December, 2009 by shurlock
saints_is_the_south Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 And obstructing the view of those that stayed? No, i moved into a seat that was empty just before the exit for the concourse, therefore blocking nobodys view. HTH
rich saints Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Was it the same kid who ran on the pitch after the Northampton game? At the time I thought sly little bast&rd - no steward would dare touch you. If it is he's obviously gaming the situation. if so ban him until he has the balls to go on the pitch as a consenting adult and run the risk of a proper decking as faces the rest of us.even better,in the meantime, why doesn't his father teach him the disciplinary wonders of the belt. that will keep him glued to his seat. his father would not how to he has done it at most away games and almost cost us wemberley
scott_saints Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 lol @ people getting angry with the nipper running on the pitch. Bl00dy drama queens Awesome night
Liquidshokk Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 (edited) I have to say I thoroughly enjoyed the match tonight. Didn't expect too much when the game started as wasn't a great turn out which was to be expected, itchen was pretty quiet and knew norwhich would give us a hard time. Was pleasantly surprised by the first 20 mins or so and the end was the tensest thing I've ever had to sit through. Had the game ended 2-2 (not sure half the stadium knew what happens at a draw in JPT as people were still leaving after whistle, I certainly didn't know and thought replay might be on the cards) then I prob would have come out thinking it was a mediocre game and that we were just a bit lucky to get away with a draw. I didn't see that end coming though!! Not sure if it's because they were tired but did anyone else notice that most of the saints players didn't really acknowledge the fans as they were leaving the pitch?? They just had faces like slapped arses, didn't seem right given the way the result went in the end. Must have been tough out there though and a few players disappointed with their individual performance. I don't think anyone could feel bad missing their penalty though. Great saves from both keepers. Only thing that can beat tonight is walking all over Leeds Saturday!! COYR! Great Edited 16 December, 2009 by Liquidshokk
Arizona Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I went banana's when Waigo scored. I don't think a bigger noise has been made in St Mary's since the 4-3 against the same opposition.
krissyboy31 Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 lol @ people getting angry with the nipper running on the pitch. Bl00dy drama queens Awesome night I wasn't too bothered about him running on the pitch but was pretty p*ssed off with the timing of it because it caused Antonio's pen to be delayed, which he duly missed. It could well have cost us. The little git could have at least waited until it was one of their penalties before running on.
Saint_clark Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Terrible performance from the Saints, worst i've seen us play since the "revival", but showed very good determination to get back in. There was 10 seconds left when we scored, I was just at the top of the steps about to walk down to the exit when we scored and went nuts. On a side note, the Itchen is f*cking god awful, only a handful of people singing (and I think all of us were there because the Northam were sold out) and one woman steward who was just ridiculous - anyone see her go OTT with the kids at the start of the game?
SNSUN Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Just got in. Well worth the drive down - I took my missus (Norwich fan sitting ever so quietly next to me to avoid the ribbings) and while she wasn't happy with the result, she loved the staduim (her first visit). Compliments to the toilets, I was told to put on here. :-D As for the game, my God. I don't think my heart can take games like that, and I'm only 29! I honestly don't think we deserved to win after that second half performance, but the direct football right at the death won it for us. There were one or two good performances but we did at times look a little lacklustre. Once again I thought Harding was excellent, he was always willing to bomb down the left and has a good cross on him too. Hammond was really getting stuck in too, and honourable mention goes to James too - the best I've seen him play at right back. Of course, there's Waigo. Why he doesn't start is beyond me, he's better than from what I've seen of Antonio. I also thought Thomas sorted us out at the back when he came on. He's a calm head. I'd like to see him start against Leeds, I wasn't overly impressed with Trotman. I'm too tired to do ratings, but I'm happy. Well done Bart, I thought we'd miss Davis in the penalties.
krissyboy31 Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Some "interesting" formations and tactics going on there. Not sure what we were playing at times in that second half. Had 5 different players playing wide left and 3 different playing wide right. Oh and James ending the game at CB? What was that about? Paid off in the end though. AP seems to have the Midas touch. Voted Papa as MoM.
John Boy Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Very good night out, eventually, thats the kind of effort you hope to see even if you are being frustrated by the opposition. 1st time I have seen penalty shoot out in the flesh at 1st team level, don't like watching pens at the best of times, but that was uncomfortable for me especially as I did not have a sofa or cushion to hide behind!! ;-) The last 30 seconds and pens certainly made the cold go away for a while
Micky Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Was it the same kid who ran on the pitch after the Northampton game? At the time I thought sly little bast&rd - no steward would dare touch you. If it is he's obviously gaming the situation. if so ban him until he has the balls to go on the pitch as a consenting adult and run the risk of a proper decking as faces the rest of us.even better,in the meantime, why doesn't his father teach him the disciplinary wonders of the belt. that will keep him glued to his seat. Was it the same kid who ran on the pitch after the Northampton game? At the time I thought sly little bast&rd - no steward would dare touch you. If it is he's obviously gaming the situation. if so ban him until he has the balls to go on the pitch as a consenting adult and run the risk of a proper decking as faces the rest of us.even better,in the meantime, why doesn't his father teach him the disciplinary wonders of the belt. that will keep him glued to his seat. his father would not how to he has done it at most away games and almost cost us wemberley Strange - in more ways than one...!
scott_saints Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Jaidi in the saintsweb poll for MOM? Fair enough.
niceandfriendly Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees! Good game tonight, two decent teams trying to play football most of the time. Norwich are a good team, they deserved to win and were the better side, but we certainly weren't awful as some people have suggested. I even read one comment saying it was as bad as Swindon. Dear oh dear, what game were you watching, and I assume based on that comment you weren't at Swindon? Saints weren't great tonight by any means but we were just outplayed by a decent side. Fantastic that we still managed to win, Saints never do that. We also never score in the last minute. It's about time some luck fell our way. Turned out to be a thoroughly entertaining evening and a decent game.
ericofarabia Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Couldn't listen to the game last night, but got a text from DubaiPhil after the 93rd min equaliser .... he thought there was going to be extra time which he wasn't relishing as he was freezing his nuts off. He wasn't feeling so cold when the next text was sent at 6-5 in pens .... quite the opposite I expect Hoping the feel good factor carries on thru Saturday at Leeds and the boys give me a display to keep me warm ... not looking forward to sub zero temperatures I can tell ya
trousers Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 what was the crowd A large gathering of people in one place but that's not important right now
Huntingdon Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Huge praise goes to Pards We were below par tonight, but AP has installed a mentality within in the team to keep going & believe We would have lost that game last season
Wes Tender Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 A very nervy match up to the 90 minutes somehow and then what followed was not good at all for my blood pressure. I had contemplated leaving the stadium at the 90 minutes and listening to the result after it was all over. Instead I stayed and watched it with almost a morbid fascination, every kick a rollercoaster of emotion. We had started well and deservedly took the lead, but Norwich are also a good team, very much at our level in this division. I realise that we had fielded a weakened team last night, with an eye on the Leeds match on Saturday, but I do not know whether Norwich had done the same. I am convinced that with a full strength team we would beat Norwich, There were passages of play from us that were sublime, some lovely cameos from certain players that illustrated that we do have some real quality in the team. But there was a doubt in my mind as to whether the defence was right. Perry has been good alongside Jaidi, but I wondered whether he would be as good alongside the lesser experienced Trottman. James has been OK at right back, but again I wondered whether with Thomas on the bench, we would have been better with him at RB with James in midfield, where he has excelled. Papa was awesome and I can't particularly remember him being offside. Sometimes at this level, he is unplayable by defences. Am I right in thinking that this was the first time though that we had both Papa and Antonio on the pitch at the same time? It might have been a gamble, a last throw of the dice by Pardew, but it certainly upped the anti considerably and injected some real pace and unpredictability into the game. When Norwich went ahead and the clock ticked down, I confess to giving up on my team and believing that we would lose, that it was one of those nights. I should have had more faith in the players. This isn't the team of the past few years. It isn't the team that loses penalty shoot outs either, although they attempted to be so. Thankfully Bialkowski proved that he has some nerve and self-belief, although he has only been back a comparitively short time and one wondered whether his confidence and resolve were yet at the level required. Again, I should have had more belief, as he clearly did. His confidence now must be sky high and I'm very pleased for him. As for the players, they too must be very up for the game against Leeds.
Thedelldays Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 great stuff are any players suspended at the weekend after last night..? leeds did not even play beckford... should be a cracker
instinct Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Is it me or did Grant Holt get booked twice? the bbc live text has him getting two yellow cards but no red!!!!!! I was at the game and I swear he got booked twice... and should have been booked a third time for play-acting before saints equaliser
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