Baj Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 A couple of weeks ago we went into the studio to record our new single (ably assisted by Uni_s from this forum), whilst there we recorded a few acoustic tracks. These are usually big heavy rock songs, but some came out ok, this is called Fit Again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upQYFzqE02U
Kadeem Hardison Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 Those lyrics have really touched me. I have got tingles down my spine listening to that. The imagery is incredible - 'Dr David Banner mending a puncture on the roadside in the rain'. It really speaks to me. I don't like it when lyrics are concise and condensed down to so that the words speak for themselves. It is all too poetic for me. I don't go in for that drivel. Lyrics are much better when they are full of pronouns and prepositions. You know where you are with those sorts of words. I don't think there are enough songs that utilise the passion and meaning that a well-placed 'Yeh' can evoke. Even better even you can stretch that 'Yeh' to a few syllables. I am overwhelmed.
Deppo Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 It's the aural equivalent of a pickled egg purchased in a pub.
Wiltshire Saint Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 I love this song! I think we should all buy a copy and try and get it to number 1 and keep that x-factor sh*t off the top spot. It'd be a real comment on how people have had enough of Cowell's manufactured pop-pap. We want real music! Real talent! I don't want my singers to be perfect. I like them a little off key. This fella reminds me a bit of Bob Dylan. And the lyrics are almost as good as well. Well done Boj and the boys!
Baj Posted 15 December, 2009 Author Posted 15 December, 2009 Thanks for the comments, positive and negative. Steve doesnt claim to be an amazing singer any more than I claim to be an amazing guitarist (thats me playing guitar, incase you didnt guess), but what we both have confidence in is our ability as song writers. Peoples ears are all too used to hearing autotuned, tweaked and 100 takes to get the perfect vocal, this was just me and steve, no warm up, no re-run, just 1 go at it. Lyrics for those that care: Say mister, point me the way west? With this cup I am armed To throw water at the Sun Keep it cold in the morning Preserve what went before it It's all that remains It's all that remains If I told you what I'm thinking Whilst I'm sinking to the bottom Of this bottle of bourbon Staring across the table I think I might go on I'm afraid of never stopping Everytime I look up It is the same They say that we're raised I say that they failed They say that we're raised Now we're fit again For an age I carried bricks on my back Gonna build myself into The wailing wall I'm the picture of composure I'm doctor David Banner Mending a puncture On the roadside in the rain I am fit again I am fit again They say that we're raised I say that they failed They say that we're raised Now we're fit again They say that we're raised I say that they failed They say that we're raised Now we're fit again Now we're fit again Now we're fit again Now we're fit again Now we're fit again If I told you what I'm thinking Now we're fit again
Ponty Posted 15 December, 2009 Posted 15 December, 2009 If you were throwing water at the sun, to cool it, by heading west, you'd be keeping it cool in the evening. Poetic license is all well and good but let's try and keep it factual.
Junction 9 Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 You don't get autotuned, tweaked or 100 takes at a gig, so I assume most people know a good singer when they hear one.
Kadeem Hardison Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 I have been inspired by Boj. Here are some lyrics I have written for you. Whoa. Whoa. Yeh. Sometimes I feel so down I don't know what to do Life is like a box of chocolates Life is like a game of football Except instead of a ball, All I have is a empty Coke can Battered and crushed, Kicking against the curb. I feel like that empty Coke can. I feel that I have been kicked against the curb Smashed up by the world So I just stare at the empty Packet of Bourbon Creams. Yeh, creams. Oh, creams. Life is so hard It is such a bleak existence Sometimes I am so down That I don't know what to do. Life on the edge, like Richard Hammond Driving a fast car. Will I survive? Will I survive? Will I? Will anyone? Life in a bubble, in a drunken mess. I just want to run To run To run To run To run from here. Sometimes I just don't know. You don't know. You don't know, Whoa, you just don't know How hard it is to run To run To run To run To run a successful IT business and live a comfortable middle class existence. Whoa.
Bath Saint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Kadeem, that is just beautiful. I can already feel those words resonating in my ears. Now, if Sensus can put them to music and get their excellent singer to sing them, I reckon you guys just might have a hit of your hands. Well done, one and all.
Junction 9 Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Kadeem, that is just beautiful. I can already feel those words resonating in my ears. Now, if Sensus can put them to music and get their excellent singer to sing them, I reckon you guys just might have a hit of your hands. Well done, one and all. I'm not sure we're going to agree on that one!! LOL!!
norwaysaint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 It shouldn't be all about one-upmanship. I thought both songs were excellent. Kadeem's probably has the edge lyrically, but he probably couldn't deliver it so well in one take. In Boj's song I could also feel the angst and despair that comes from working in IT and running a football based website. It probably is like being David Banner and changing a tyre.
Kadeem Hardison Posted 17 December, 2009 Posted 17 December, 2009 Kadeem's probably has the edge lyrically I am flattered, but I have to admit I don't think I am in the same league as Boj. Mine really doesn't have the raw emotion of 'Fit Again'. Boj has that quality that few lyricists manage. I can see elements of poets and authors in the writing too. As I read it, I catch the well-punctuated poetry of Emily Dickinson, the fluid prose of Blyton, the rock operatics of Ben Elton and the beauty and honesty of Joey Tempest.
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 17 December, 2009 Posted 17 December, 2009 sensus are really good. i am so honoured and touched that you shared that song and those lyrics with us. so, how about that southampton, eh? great result. that Paul Lambert is such an old moanie.
Deppo Posted 17 December, 2009 Posted 17 December, 2009 I'm glad to see that you're being the bigger man, Boj.
Julian H. Cope Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 I was clever enough not to click the link. I cannot even imagine what it sounds like.
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 Now that i have endured that absolute piece of vocal, lyrical and musical dog mess, don't you think i deserve a return to the main board? You know, as compensation, like?
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 19 December, 2009 Posted 19 December, 2009 just to clarify, it was absolutely, truely, 100% dreadful in every way
REDARMY79 Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Words cannot describe it, kids dont click the link! JUST SAY NO
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 to be perfectly completely honest, i didn't listen to the song at all. i was worried it would be rubbish and then someone would come in the room and hear me listening to it and then think i liked it. i am ashamed of what i have become. ashamed.
Kadeem Hardison Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Don't listen to them Boj. I, for one, think it is a tour de force.
Baj Posted 20 December, 2009 Author Posted 20 December, 2009 Ahh, see here's the thing, people are entitled to their opinions and I don't mind. Art is, as always, subjective, and if 99% think it's utter tripe, that's fine, we think we have a locker full of great material, and so do those that show a genuine interest in the band. I actually found the comments above amusing, particularly the reworked vocals "Packet of Bourbon Creams. Yeh, creams. Oh, creams." genius !
RonManager Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 "Packet of Bourbon Creams. Yeh, creams. Oh, creams." genius ! Genius? I think not, Sir. Bourbons do not have cream filling - it is a chocolate filling.
Junction 9 Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Boj, have you tried doing any vocals yourself?
Baj Posted 20 December, 2009 Author Posted 20 December, 2009 yeah, I'm worse, WAY worse... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zyvZIfcHeA
hamster Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Genius? I think not, Sir. Bourbons do not have cream filling - it is a chocolate filling. Tell me when to stop .... hth
RonManager Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 Tell me when to stop .... hth Indeed, but look at the colour of the filling - it's brown.
Wiltshire Saint Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 yeah, I'm worse, WAY worse... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zyvZIfcHeA I'm off to see Ffye Dangerfield in January. He's playing just 4 gigs nationally to pro mote his new album and the Guillemots are recording their 3rd album in the new year. What I'm trying to say is that sometimes an individual band member can go off and do solo stuff and be very successful yet still keep the band intact. Boj, after hearing your song I would urge you to go solo. I think you have a bteer singing voice than the other fella and there is an honesty to your work that I believe. The way you have dealt with the idiots on this thread shows me that you have musical integrity and I for one believe in your song writing abilities. I have a friend who is in A&R and if you want me to get him to come and see one of your solo gigs drop me a PM.
Baj Posted 20 December, 2009 Author Posted 20 December, 2009 Sorry WS, but I dont believe a word of that post, if someones ears are of sufficient quality that they can comment on Steves singing, then they are easily able to distinguish that steve has a better voice than I do! I know I can't sing, that's why I don't do it much!
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 20 December, 2009 Posted 20 December, 2009 can i now go back on the main board? i promise to pretend to like your terrible ditty if you do.
Kadeem Hardison Posted 21 December, 2009 Posted 21 December, 2009 I actually found the comments above amusing, particularly the reworked vocals "Packet of Bourbon Creams. Yeh, creams. Oh, creams." genius ! Amusing? I think that you are being unfair, Boj. I sense that your 'genius' comment is not serious. Just because you have made it in the business, you shouldn't sit in your ivory towers taking cheap shots at us people that are just starting out. You have inspired me to make music and I have been genuinely appreciative of the wonderful music that you make, and all you can do is take the mickey out of the fans that have got you where you are today. I am a real fan of your amazing music, but I feel that the stardom you have achieved has gone to your head, which is a real shame. Just remember why you are as successful as you are... because of us: the fans.
Baj Posted 21 December, 2009 Author Posted 21 December, 2009 Kadeem, please accept my apologies, I was in no way poking fun at your clearly genuine talent. You were writing, as we say in the industry, a "parody". Had you presented some of your original material with no basis for comparison against one of my songs, then indeed I may have treated it with the curious eye of a musical legend, and is what, I identified your lyrics as a "parody" (there's that word again) of my own, and generally a parody is intended for comedic effect. If indeed you were submitting those lyrics as an alternative to the original, I will indeed see if we can incorporate some (if not all) of your version, though I must warn you that we split royalties equally between band members so you shouldn't expect more than 1/4 of the profits. Thanks, and aplogies again.
Deppo Posted 21 December, 2009 Posted 21 December, 2009 I think it was intended as an homage, Boj, rather than a parody. Kadeem is not "Weird" Al Yankovic, he is an artist.
Junction 9 Posted 21 December, 2009 Posted 21 December, 2009 I'm not sure what to make of this thread now. I got quite drawn in emotionally by both sets of lyrics but now it seems that either one or both of them might be taking the p*ss. Well I hope you're both proud of yourselves, symptomatic of this forum of late.
Deppo Posted 21 December, 2009 Posted 21 December, 2009 What does symptomatic mean? This question goes to you, Junction 9.
Junction 9 Posted 21 December, 2009 Posted 21 December, 2009 What does symptomatic mean? This question goes to you, Junction 9. If something bad is symptomatic of something else, it is caused by the other thing and is proof that it exists
JackFrost Posted 22 December, 2009 Posted 22 December, 2009 that voice hurts my ears. It's better than most of today's pop stars
Kadeem Hardison Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Boj, you sound much better than that other fella. Honestly.
Baj Posted 23 December, 2009 Author Posted 23 December, 2009 why? you prefer people with **** voices?
Ponty Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 I prefer Baj's vocals, too. Your mate sounds like he's singing whilst driving on a cobbled street. Some people like that, I'm sure, after all Fergal Sharkey made a few bob, but it's not my cup of tea.
Deppo Posted 23 December, 2009 Posted 23 December, 2009 Nothing wrong with a good warble, but moderation is the key. Maybe you could use him on backing vocals.
Baj Posted 23 December, 2009 Author Posted 23 December, 2009 my answer is a soup of stuttering. l-o-s-e-r r-a-d-a-r a-l-e-r-t !
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