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There was one verse of a Waigo song that came out of the Northam on Saturday. I thought I heard

 

He's always offside

He's always offsi-i-ide

Papa Waigo

He's always offside

 

to the tune of Sloop John B.

 

Can anyone confirm or deny or correct me.

 

Cheers

Posted
  Billy ****e said:
There was one verse of a Waigo song that came out of the Northam on Saturday. I thought I heard

 

He's always offside

He's always offsi-i-ide

Papa Waigo

He's always offside

 

to the tune of Sloop John B.

 

Can anyone confirm or deny or correct me.

 

Cheers

 

 

Yeh I can confirm that this was sung by the Northam on saturday and this has always been sung when Waigo does get offside in the game!

I hope this helps!

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  RedAndWhite91 said:
It's not just when he was offside on Saturday, it was sung when he came on off the bench.

 

Yeh I forgot to mention that too as we do sing that when he does come off the bench aswell!

Posted

I'd like to hear something along the lines that the linesman got it wrong.

 

Sung in the same part of Sloop John B:

 

The lino is blind

The lino is blind

Papa Waigo

Was never offside

 

Try that next time.

Posted (edited)

Someone needs to show him a video of early Michael Owen goals. Holding and curving his runs. I guess this maybe is something that comes naturally and can't really be taught but you never know. There are many other strikers that we can attract that are much better than Waigo so we'll see what happens. I'm sure he'll get many more appearances so he has time to earn himself a contract but I just don't see him as the sort of player that is going to rack up a decent goals tally.

Edited by SparkySaint
Posted
  Billy ****e said:
There was one verse of a Waigo song that came out of the Northam on Saturday. I thought I heard

 

He's always offside

He's always offsi-i-ide

Papa Waigo

He's always offside

 

to the tune of Sloop John B.

 

Can anyone confirm or deny or correct me.

 

Cheers

 

Yep, it was sung. Annoyed me. I can see it's fair comment when he's already been offside 6 times in a match as with the previous St Mary's game (which incidentally was when it first appeared, rather than "always" as is claimed above), but when he's just coming on, why give the linesman the idea that he's going to be offside to begin with ?

Posted

He's always offside

He's always offsi-i-ide

Papa Waigo

He's always offside

 

You realise if you continue to not support the poor bugger he'll end up singing back:

 

I wanna go home

I wanna go home

This is is the worst trip

I've ever been on.

 

:)

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  SparkySaint said:
Someone needs to show him a video of early Michael Owen goals. Holding and curving his runs. I guess this maybe is something that comes naturally and can't really be taught but you never know. There are many other strikers that we can attract that are much better than Waigo so we'll see what happens. I'm sure he'll get many more appearances so he has time to earn himself a contract but I just don't see him as the sort of player that is going to rack up a decent goals tally.

 

It's something which is eminently coachable, one of the first things any kid will get taught as soon as he meets any kind of organised defence and have to deal with offside.

 

Running sideways in an onside position and then going forwards only when the ball is played isn't what I'd call a "natural" skill, like reacting to rebounds or striking a ball - and even they can be coached.

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  The9 said:
Yep, it was sung. Annoyed me. I can see it's fair comment when he's already been offside 6 times in a match as with the previous St Mary's game (which incidentally was when it first appeared, rather than "always" as is claimed above), but when he's just coming on, why give the linesman the idea that he's going to be offside to begin with ?

 

I doubt that a professional lineman would be influenced by or base a decision on a chant by fans.

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There were at least two clear occasions on Saturday when he wasn't offside, but was flagged anyway. I'm not saying he is never offside, but a fair few times his pace makes it look like he is when he isn't.

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  Saints foreva said:
I bet this chant does his confidence so much good...

Was wondering how long it'd be for the first "I'm a big tart and feel sorry for his feelings and emotions and stuff if he hears our sing song and doesn't like it, poor papa" response.

 

It's just a laugh. We're not "not supporting him". I'm sure he can handle it.

 

xx

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  nathan said:
There were at least two clear occasions on Saturday when he wasn't offside, but was flagged anyway. I'm not saying he is never offside, but a fair few times his pace makes it look like he is when he isn't.

 

A subject we have debated, and several of us are in agreement that he is too fast for the linos, who raise the flag, on many occasions.

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  St Landrew said:
A subject we have debated, and several of us are in agreement that he is too fast for the linos, who raise the flag, on many occasions.

It's not so much that he has to learn to stay onside, he has to learn to play so that the flag doesn't go up.

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  Whitey Grandad said:
It's not so much that he has to learn to stay onside, he has to learn to play so that the flag doesn't go up.

 

But then he may lose some effectiveness through no fault of his own. But I'll concede on that one. Very good point.

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  The9 said:
It's something which is eminently coachable, one of the first things any kid will get taught as soon as he meets any kind of organised defence and have to deal with offside.

 

Running sideways in an onside position and then going forwards only when the ball is played isn't what I'd call a "natural" skill, like reacting to rebounds or striking a ball - and even they can be coached.

 

My take on it too. TBH, pretty basic coaching practice for any forward players. Timing is the issue here, not the skill element.

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  SparkySaint said:
I doubt that a professional lineman would be influenced by or base a decision on a chant by fans.

 

Really ? What matches have you been watching then ?

 

Are they even professionals in League One ?

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  St Landrew said:
A subject we have debated, and several of us are in agreement that he is too fast for the linos, who raise the flag, on many occasions.

 

Well, the club ought to be able to provide video evidence for the FL. If we could show that the linesmen got the decision wrong on numerous occasions, then the case for either extra linesmen or video evidence becomes more compelling. I was musing about another possibility. Wouldn't it be possible for the trailing linesman to have some of device that enabled him to indicate by an electronic beep to the forward linesman the second that the ball was kicked forward? Then the forward linesman would only have to look at the position of the striker, rather than having to watch play down the pitch and make a simultaneous judgement on when the striker made his move?

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  Wes Tender said:
Well, the club ought to be able to provide video evidence for the FL. If we could show that the linesmen got the decision wrong on numerous occasions, then the case for either extra linesmen or video evidence becomes more compelling. I was musing about another possibility. Wouldn't it be possible for the trailing linesman to have some of device that enabled him to indicate by an electronic beep to the forward linesman the second that the ball was kicked forward? Then the forward linesman would only have to look at the position of the striker, rather than having to watch play down the pitch and make a simultaneous judgement on when the striker made his move?

 

The pitch should definitely be divided into quarters IMO, with one lino in each. Your idea would be a further evolution of that.

Posted

Although it was funny at the Wycombe match, I really can't see the point in this becoming Papa's song at this stage.

 

Who knows if he finds it funny, or does or doesn't understand it?

 

The officials ARE influenced by fans throughout games.

 

On Saturday Papa was hardly offside at all - perhaps showing he's learning something...?? The couple of times he was flagged, he was clearly NOT offside.....

 

Its a stupid song IMO, but the Northam will persist with it because they'll never understand anyone else's point of view. :(

 

(for the record, I have my ST in the Northam and attend many away games and indeed I do like to sing......)

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  MorningtonCrescent said:

On Saturday Papa was hardly offside at all - perhaps showing he's learning something...?? The couple of times he was flagged, he was clearly NOT offside.....

One was 'tight'. The other was well off.

Posted

Well done to all the gentalia that sung this song for one of our own players. As noted, it's not going to do his confidence or attitude a whole lot of good to have his own side's fans knocking him. Why not sing it when he scores for irony?

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  greg_hill said:
Well done to all the gentalia that sung this song for one of our own players. As noted, it's not going to do his confidence or attitude a whole lot of good to have his own side's fans knocking him. Why not sing it when he scores for irony?

Poor papa. I bet he cries when he gets home after a game after hearing the song :(

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  scott_saints said:
Poor papa. I bet he cries when he gets home after a game after hearing the song :(

 

What's the goal here - A) to support the team or B) for some fans to make themselves sound clever/funny?

 

Hopefully someone can tell us exactly how the song contributes to A).

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  St Landrew said:
I'd like to hear something along the lines that the linesman got it wrong.

 

Sung in the same part of Sloop John B:

 

The lino is blind

The lino is blind

Papa Waigo

Was never offside

 

Try that next time.

 

I like that - much better! =D>

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  greg_hill said:
Well done to all the gentalia that sung this song for one of our own players. As noted, it's not going to do his confidence or attitude a whole lot of good to have his own side's fans knocking him. Why not sing it when he scores for irony?

do you know him..do you know if he thinks it is funny or not..?

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  The Majestic Channon said:
So who actually scored the 2nd papa or harding ?

Papa. Latched onto a loose ball about 4 yards out after a bit of head-tennis.

He was much better tonight, disciplined and not offside once. Good positioning for his first goal and a well-timed run. He's obviously been reading us!

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  shane_saintsfc said:
Lighten up, its only a game of leather ball. Have a laugh and enjoy it and not take everything so seriously!

 

So I guess you would be in the group trying to look clever/funny, then. Looking through this thread that didn't work out so well.

 

I actually have an over-developed sense of humour but it doesn't stretch to taking the p*ss out of our own players.

 

Still, it could have been worse. I could have done a Deanovski and called you a mongtard, whatever that is.

 

:smt008

Posted

The amount of people sat around me tonight who quite clearly knew nothing about football was frightening, really. Papa Waigo is a quality, if unorthodox, player. Not offside once tonight, scored twice, some good passing, tracking back, making himself available when playing on the right, or up front, yet still some people want to sing about him being offside all the time :(

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  CanadaSaint said:
So I guess you would be in the group trying to look clever/funny, then. Looking through this thread that didn't work out so well.

 

I actually have an over-developed sense of humour but it doesn't stretch to taking the p*ss out of our own players.

 

Still, it could have been worse. I could have done a Deanovski and called you a mongtard, whatever that is.

 

:smt008

 

i wasnt calling any individual it just the people that really feel it necessary to ssing this stupid song.

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  Deanovski said:
i wasnt calling any individual it just the people that really feel it necessary to ssing this stupid song.

 

I'm still trying to figure out what you've just said. ;)

 

You're not calling any individual a mongtard but you're calling all of them together mongtards.

 

Oh, well. Works for me, mate. I liked your post.

 

Now all I need to do is figure out WTF a mongtard is.

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  RedAndWhite91 said:
Definitely Papa, just seen it on SSN. He loved it.

 

Same here. Recorded it too. I'll try to get it onto Youtube at some point [if I remember]. He has a nice knack for being in the right place at the right time. That's a bloody good quality in a striker.

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