Katalinic Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Garth Crooks - talks s***, uses 100 words when 3 will do, has eyes that looks like they are going to pop out of his head, nods too much when others are talking, comes across as a know it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 (edited) We have the misfortune of hearing David Pleat quite often as one of the match experts at live games .... he is an utter and total t@ of the highest order and just the tone of his voice makes me want to kick in the TV :cool: Yes. Do you get Robbie Earle too sometimes? I think they're all part of the pool of 'experts' employed for Prem games for foreign channel consumption. Lucky us. Our in-studio pundit is Warren Barton, but I usually have the volume turned down so can't fairly comment on how good he is. Howver, the winner of the award for most hated pundit does to .......that total utter bastard Tommy Smyth. All US expats will know who I mean and if you don't you will when you tune to ESPN for the World Cup next year. Edited 14 December, 2009 by LVSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Clueless Mark Bright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markr27 Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Garth Crooks - talks s***, uses 100 words when 3 will do, has eyes that looks like they are going to pop out of his head, nods too much when others are talking, comes across as a know it all. Thanks - I had successfully blocked him from my mind until you mentioned his name! 100% for accuracy on the description however Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 i do hate garth crooks. Steve Wilson is a pretty good commentator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Agree with many of the above also: Robbie Earle - pointless... just pointless. Alan Smith - if only for droning monotone voice. J Redknapp (yup, for knowing everything) Don Goodman - not particularly offensive, but just changes his tune on everything during a match 'Oh Bristol City have dominated' 5 minutes later 'Coventry have had complete control of this game' Andy Gray - SHUT THE **** UP Nigel Winterburn/Martin Keown - please guys, stop killing me with your collective charisma Motson - is so bad now he just makes sounds when he can't figure out the words he needs to say. Embarrassing. Alan Green - jumped up, arrogant ****. Shearer - was obvious he was going to fail as a manager. Clive Tylesley - Man Utd apologist. I do like Peter Beagrie, Lawro, Hansen, Claridge, Ian Darke, Le Tissier, (without bias), Merson (so stupid, it's funny) and I actually don't mind Phil Thompson. The ultimate 'lol-pundit/host' has to be Jeff Stelling, naturally talented.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 (edited) Agree with many of the above also: Robbie Earle - pointless... just pointless. Alan Smith - if only for droning monotone voice. J Redknapp (yup, for knowing everything) Don Goodman - not particularly offensive, but just changes his tune on everything during a match 'Oh Bristol City have dominated' 5 minutes later 'Coventry have had complete control of this game' Andy Gray - SHUT THE **** UP Nigel Winterburn/Martin Keown - please guys, stop killing me with your collective charisma Motson - is so bad now he just makes sounds when he can't figure out the words he needs to say. Embarrassing. Alan Green - jumped up, arrogant ****. Shearer - was obvious he was going to fail as a manager. Clive Tylesley - Man Utd apologist. I do like Peter Beagrie, Lawro, Hansen, Claridge, Ian Darke, Le Tissier, (without bias), Merson (so stupid, it's funny) and I actually don't mind Phil Thompson. The ultimate 'lol-pundit/host' has to be Jeff Stelling, naturally talented.... More of a presenter but yeah Stelling is by far the best and the Gilette soccer saturdays can be hilarious when he's doing them. Sometimes it's almost worth watching the whole way through just in case he does his James Brown routine. I find Merson ok, he doesn't exactly come across as intelligent but he can laugh at himself, especially when trying to pronounce difficult names Le Tiss is very good also. Apart from Phil 'all worship Liverpool" Thompson, The one that really get's on my nerves is Chris Kamara. He begins every report with "UNBELIEVABLE JEFF!!!!" Edited 14 December, 2009 by JackFrost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Motson, Alan Green, Tyldesley and Drury are commentators, not pundits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Don Goodman, Alan Smith and Chris Kamara always seem to commentate when we lose. Their voices give me the creeps. Especially Kamara's "Big Stevie Howard" routine during both legs of the play-off semi-final against Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 There are some commentators and pundits I dislike for being crap and (unjustly) there are some I love for the same reason. Dislike: Motson - Always talking about a game 20 years ago, never talking about the action. Birtles - The very definition of 'wise after the fact'. Gray - Believes his own hype and now tends to commentate with one ear on the clip they'll use on the trailers next week. Like: Kamara - Endearingly tongue-tied at even the mildest excitement, I often wonder what he's like at the point of orgasm... Crooks - Delivers the blandest, most pointless comments as boggle-eyed rants of unchallengeable defiance. Souness - Absolutely will not be persuaded to smile, take part in chummy Redknapp banter or in any other way deviate from the very serious truth of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK the 2nd Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Alan McInally - totally unintelligible and utterly incomprehensible. How on earth did he ever end up as a pundit?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 There are some commentators and pundits I dislike for being crap and (unjustly) there are some I love for the same reason. Dislike: Motson - Always talking about a game 20 years ago, never talking about the action. Birtles - The very definition of 'wise after the fact'. Gray - Believes his own hype and now tends to commentate with one ear on the clip they'll use on the trailers next week. Like: Kamara - Endearingly tongue-tied at even the mildest excitement, I often wonder what he's like at the point of orgasm... Crooks - Delivers the blandest, most pointless comments as boggle-eyed rants of unchallengeable defiance. Souness - Absolutely will not be persuaded to smile, take part in chummy Redknapp banter or in any other way deviate from the very serious truth of football. Spot on with your likes of Kamara, and I overlooked Souness. - could never fathom why he never made much of manager because he does actually make a helluva lot of sense. very insightful. Must be cursed like Hoddle - great coach, tactician but a terrible man-manager.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 there wil never be commentators of the like of Wolstenholme, Brian moore, David Coleman and Ron Jones.All spoke as true football lovers and actually commentated on the game. So many of the current onesw are sensationalist. The one who does ITV now is so bias. he seems to cream over the big clubs. ian Darke is a pompey fan but doesnt show that when he commentates on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Motson, Alan Green, Tyldesley and Drury are commentators, not pundits. What's the difference? They all get paid good money to talk sh!te about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Yes. Do you get Robbie Earle too sometimes? I think they're all part of the pool of 'experts' employed for Prem games for foreign channel consumption. Lucky us. Our in-studio pundit is Warren Barton, but I usually have the volume turned down so can't fairly comment on how good he is. Howver, the winner of the award for most hated pundit does to .......that total utter bastard Tommy Smyth. All US expats will know who I mean and if you don't you will when you tune to ESPN for the World Cup next year. Oh Christ on a bike .... is he the Irish Guy who continually used terms like shut out, end zone and goal minder :mad: Eons ago we had to put up with him for our once a week prem match on ESPN.... totally useless ... you have my utmost sympathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 What's the difference? They all get paid good money to talk sh!te about football. A commentator is there to describe what is happening on the pitch. The pundit is there to analyse what is happening on the pitch and explain why it is happening. If you are listening to a commentator to get your expert opinion on the game then you are clearly misguided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Jamie Rednapp, Ian Wright, Alan Shearer and Gareth Crooks are bottom of the pile for me. They add nothing incisive, either too dull or over-excited in their mind numbing analysis... http://www.midfielddynamo.com/fancythat/punditometer.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Londoner Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 The biggest bellend on radio is Stuart Hall; his accomplices on Radio5 Live make him out to be the ultimate in wit and banter; he's not; he spouts complete and utter, meaningless drivel. When I was a lad I used to like Hugh John (I think) who commentated for the Midlands region of ITV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Lee Dixon on TV = Shyte Lee Dixon on Radio = very good. Don't know why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShadow Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Howver, the winner of the award for most hated pundit does to .......that total utter bastard Tommy Smyth. All US expats will know who I mean and if you don't you will when you tune to ESPN for the World Cup next year. Gets my vote by a country mile. Talks utter shyte in the most annoying voice ever - even my 8 year old son thinks he is a complete idiot. I can't stand David Pleat either, but I would ecstatic if Mr Pleat (or any of the other names mentioned on this thread) replaced Mr Smyth on US screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandy_Top_89 Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Townsend Townsend Townsend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In the appauling seasons of highlights we were treated to under the reign of terror that 'The Premiership' exposed all fans of football too i think he was the worst. Even though Arsenal were sensational during this period, the total focus he had on brown nosing Wenger and Henry made me want to punch a hole through the TV. What really made me hate that programme as a whole was the complete lack of highlights of games from outside Arsenal and Man Utd (even Chelsea and Liverpool suffered during this point), because they did about a 20 minute highlight section of one game then would spend about 20 minutes analysing that one game. Following this they spent about 5 minutes cramming the goals from the other games in and then the other 25 minutes was adverts. Quick stats: The Premiership spent an average 28 minutes on the action from matches per show. Match of the Day averages 58 minutes. Even if this is a wiki fact, I throughly trust it because it sounds about right for the quality of coverage I witnessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Londoner Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Oh and another one; Graham Taylor; how that man was ever made England manager with so little knowledge of football will forever leave me bewildered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 David Pleat cannot pronounce any players names correctly. He was always saying Jim Maggleton instead of Magilton. Can't agree about Stuart Hall, the man's a poet. Barry Davies is the best of the lot. He's very economical and doesn't get hysterical. Motty's past his sell-by date and should gracefully retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 My favourite of the current bunch (if we accept that Barry Davies has pretty much been relegated to the gymnastics) is Jonathan Pearce. If you can get past his shrieking voice, he actually seems to both know and care about the game, and doesn't get carried away with all the hyperbole and sycophancy of most commentators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Resusitate Kenneth Wolstenholme and re employ Barry Davies the last two great commentators. Motson was the start of the rot and things have got progressively worse. Its a pity the current bunch did'nt follow Richie Benaud's technique: If you cant add to what is on the screen TSTFU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 aah, can't believe I have only just remembered this one The Joey Deacon of all commentators/pundits Trevor Francis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Alert Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 "Champaign" Charlie on Gillette Soccer Saturday, the man is great. Never anything useful to say and comes over as being Paul Mersons comedy sidekick but always great to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Resusitate Kenneth Wolstenholme and re employ Barry Davies the last two great commentators. Motson was the start of the rot and things have got progressively worse. Its a pity the current bunch did'nt follow Richie Benaud's technique: If you cant add to what is on the screen TSTFU. Extra Extra. Give Nick Halling a go. I know he specialises in the NFL but he has been doing voice overs on the Football League Show and seems to be quite knowledgeable. PLUS he's a Saints fan. Even tried to convert Kevin Cade to proper football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bentley Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Lee Dixon on TV = Shyte Lee Dixon on Radio = very good. Don't know why. I thought Dixon was good on MOTD2 last night. Much better than a seemingly very bitter Alan Hansen, who (commenting on the Arsenal/Liverpool game), thought Fabregas should have had a red card, claiming that Johnson 'could have gone down there' which I can only assume is condoning diving, and that Liverpool were defeated by 'two individual errors'! While the own goal was unlucky, Arshavins touch to set up his goal was brilliant and Liverpool didn't ever threaten from that moment on. However much I think Hansen and Lawro are awful (Shearer is good though), MOTD's pundits are infinitely better than Sky Sports. Ever seen the Champions League games where Richard Keys sits with 3 randomly selected ex-players, managers etc? It's like the most awkward event ever for all of them, unlike on BBC where the pundits know each other and aren't afraid to challenge each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 I feel a bit sorry for Lawro, he is always on the end of the sofa and it seems like he is the runt of the pundit litter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 I feel a bit sorry for Lawro, he is always on the end of the sofa and it seems like he is the runt of the pundit litter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-luco Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 i have grown up with john motson comentating as long as i can remember this man has been on the tv, and i agree he is a legend in his feild the same way as eddie the eagle is a skiing legend, totally useless at their chosen profession/sport. this man should never have been allowed to go anywhere near a microphone If you consider Motson to be a legend, then hell, are your expectations low. I remember John Motson's first commentaries, and they were USELESS. HE WAS UTTER CRAP..! I couldn't believe it when he succeeded David Coleman as the main football commentator. I always thought the BBC would eventually see sense and get rid of him. But his sheer appalling bad commentary has been adopted like a lost child by the football viewing public. He is almost the worst football commentator it has ever been my misfortune to listen to. The worst being dear old Brian Moore [RIP]. At least the Beeb kicked him out quickly enough. Actually, I've just changed my mind. Brian Moore was preferable, so Motty [le god, I hate that nickname] is the worst, as far as I'm concerned. Nothing against the bloke at all. Just that he has made a career out of being really poor at his job, IMO. BTW, FF has prima-donna Motty stories to tell. ehhmmm dont think you read my post properly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 A commentator is there to describe what is happening on the pitch. The pundit is there to analyse what is happening on the pitch and explain why it is happening. If you are listening to a commentator to get your expert opinion on the game then you are clearly misguided. Don't need a tv commentator to tell me what's going on on the pitch. I've got good enough eyesight to see for myself. It's not however the same game that Motson describes. About time they went down the route of cricket and got people who know what they are talking about describing the action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 I Sky+ Match of the Day just so I don't have to listen to the boring gits in the studio. I can't stand Andy Gray, and Claridge is a Saints fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LVSaint Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Oh Christ on a bike .... is he the Irish Guy who continually used terms like shut out, end zone and goal minder :mad: Eons ago we had to put up with him for our once a week prem match on ESPN.... totally useless ... you have my utmost sympathy Yes, that's him, the Irish man....also says onion bag alot. (I wanted to use the word 'bastard' to describe him but thought if I said "Irish bastard", it might be deemed zenophobic). I didn't realise he'd been around, I think he's been in the States even before I arrived. BigShadow, I agree, I'd take them all from FSC (even the English gimp who does that awful "fone in" nonsense) over Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 Don't need a tv commentator to tell me what's going on on the pitch. I've got good enough eyesight to see for myself. It's not however the same game that Motson describes. About time they went down the route of cricket and got people who know what they are talking about describing the action. I'm not saying that he's any good. I am saying he isn't a pundit. He is a commentator. There is a difference. I don't put the commentator there. Why not write to the BBC and ITV and Sky if you feel so strongly about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 14 December, 2009 Share Posted 14 December, 2009 ehhmmm dont think you read my post properly I took your point, but I would never confer upon Motson any legendary status at all. Even recognising him as poor is too good for him. But I entirely agree, he should never have been let near a microphone. I've re-read my previous post, and I must admit, I did phrase it badly. At least we both agree he was/is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 15 December, 2009 Share Posted 15 December, 2009 Peter Dreary and David Bleat: whenever they are on together there is not enough Prozac in the World to numb the agony that they bring to Football commentary, they are worse than the lady the Beeb keep trying out on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 15 December, 2009 Share Posted 15 December, 2009 Paul Jewell on sky sports, dull fat northern t..t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 15 December, 2009 Share Posted 15 December, 2009 It's Motson's stupid laugh after every piece of action what really gets on my nerves:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 15 December, 2009 Share Posted 15 December, 2009 It's Motson's stupid laugh after every piece of action what really gets on my nerves:mad: ...and the way he has to start every sentence with 'OOH and'...:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedAndWhite91 Posted 15 December, 2009 Share Posted 15 December, 2009 ...and the way he has to start every sentence with 'OOH and'...:mad: ...and the way he gets ridiculously over excited at a half-chance that is obviously going to result in absolutely nothing... :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 15 December, 2009 Share Posted 15 December, 2009 Garth Crooks The fat Iteye on ITV's CL highlights show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 15 December, 2009 Share Posted 15 December, 2009 Whats happened the the bird commentator? not heard her for ages. The one the sounds like a 10 year old boy commentating for part of some school project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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