sotonjoe Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 ... or a load of students with nothing better to do than cause a scene in the precinct on a Saurday afternoon? You decide.
Crab Lungs Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 absolutely crap, compared to these guys: http://improveverywhere.com/
sotonjoe Posted 12 December, 2009 Author Posted 12 December, 2009 A different concept I guess, but certainly much more entertaining!
TopGun Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 It's an obviously harmless form of protest so no real issues with it. They probably had a bit of fun doing it also. No doubt it started and ended in a pub. Personally I think it's good to see a few young people making their point about climate change although clearly it doesn't affect the global political debate. About 20 years back I was doing the same (though no flash mobs then :-( )...
sotonjoe Posted 12 December, 2009 Author Posted 12 December, 2009 It's an obviously harmless form of protest so no real issues with it. They probably had a bit of fun doing it also. No doubt it started and ended in a pub. Personally I think it's good to see a few young people making their point about climate change although clearly it doesn't affect the global political debate. About 20 years back I was doing the same (though no flash mobs then :-( )... Do you think it made any point though? Do you think the passers by had any idea what was really going on? Don't you think some of the kids were there just to play a part in the absurdity of it? Does that detract from the effects of the protest anyway or not?
TopGun Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 Do you think it made any point though? Do you think the passers by had any idea what was really going on? Don't you think some of the kids were there just to play a part in the absurdity of it? Does that detract from the effects of the protest anyway or not? I take your points Joe. But reiterate it caused no hassle to anyone apart from a few startled grannies probably. No real gain from it, but no loss either. I suppose they got some attention as it was covered by the local media.
sotonjoe Posted 12 December, 2009 Author Posted 12 December, 2009 I take your points Joe. But reiterate it caused no hassle to anyone apart from a few startled grannies probably. No real gain from it, but no loss either. I suppose they got some attention as it was covered by the local media. hey topgun, i'm not against it mate, just asking the questions you know? To be fair, I probably see it as a bunch of kids having a laugh, which is fine in itself. I don'treally see how it could have a worthwhile effect as a significant protest though. I loved the comment on the Daily Echo site from the woman who suffers from 'panic attacks as a result of angst ridden scenarios' or something similar though. I think she was implying that she may have dropped dead at the sight of somebody apparently receiving ardiac arrest treatment! Whatever next!
TopGun Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 hey topgun, i'm not against it mate, just asking the questions you know? To be fair, I probably see it as a bunch of kids having a laugh, which is fine in itself. I don'treally see how it could have a worthwhile effect as a significant protest though. I loved the comment on the Daily Echo site from the woman who suffers from 'panic attacks as a result of angst ridden scenarios' or something similar though. I think she was implying that she may have dropped dead at the sight of somebody apparently receiving ardiac arrest treatment! Whatever next! Yeah. Local media, eh?
RedAndWhite91 Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 It's an obviously harmless form of protest so no real issues with it. They probably had a bit of fun doing it also. No doubt it started and ended in a pub. Personally I think it's good to see a few young people making their point about climate change although clearly it doesn't affect the global political debate. About 20 years back I was doing the same (though no flash mobs then :-( )... Facebook, actually.
manji Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Just a pointless attempt to show how "wacky" they are and no doubt get themselves on youtube.
sotonjoe Posted 13 December, 2009 Author Posted 13 December, 2009 Just a pointless attempt to show how "wacky" they are and no doubt get themselves on youtube. That would have certainly been at the forefront of the minds of many of the participators.
JackFrost Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 (edited) Do you think it made any point though? Do you think the passers by had any idea what was really going on? Don't you think some of the kids were there just to play a part in the absurdity of it? Does that detract from the effects of the protest anyway or not? Exactly, I bet the surrounding public didn't have a clue as to what point they were trying to get across. IMO unconventional social activities when used as a protest or to make a statement just make the protestors look odd and would personally put me and a lot of people off from wanting to know their ideas or have any association from them Edited 13 December, 2009 by JackFrost
StuRomseySaint Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Another reason why I absolutely f*cking hate student c*nts.
Ludwig Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Another reason why I absolutely f*cking hate student c*nts. They should've smashed up a Mosque instead, right? That's the only form of 'proper protest'.
sotonjoe Posted 13 December, 2009 Author Posted 13 December, 2009 Another reason why I absolutely f*cking hate student c*nts. Why?
StuRomseySaint Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Why? Because they are just being attention whores.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Why? He doesn't like them because he is jealous he has never had three/four years of zero responsibility, getting leathered and then getting an internationally recognised qualification. Fair play to them, it got them the publicity that they obviously wanted for their cause. Much more effective than the protest I saw in Knightsbridge yesterday outside Harrods anyway!
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Some of the comments on that page are priceless! I love Southampton with all my heart, but some of the people who inhabit it are morons.
JackFrost Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 He doesn't like them because he is jealous he has never had three/four years of zero responsibility, getting leathered and then getting an internationally recognised qualification. Fair play to them, it got them the publicity that they obviously wanted for their cause. Much more effective than the protest I saw in Knightsbridge yesterday outside Harrods anyway! not to mention avoiding paying any tax. Still from what I gather, the shock that a lot of students are getting when they realise the majority of employers vastly prefer 'experience' to 'qualifications' after they graduate starts to make up for it. All topped off with 20k debts.
sotonjoe Posted 13 December, 2009 Author Posted 13 December, 2009 not to mention avoiding paying any tax. Still from what I gather, the shock that a lot of students are getting when they realise the majority of employers vastly prefer 'experience' to 'qualifications' after they graduate starts to make up for it. All topped off with 20k debts. Rather a rash statement! Have you included law firms and hospitals in there?
JackFrost Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Rather a rash statement! Have you included law firms and hospitals in there? Very specialized jobs. I'm talking more generally. There have been thousands and thousands of students over the last few years that have graduated from uni (after being told there was a 95% chance of the course leading straight to a job) and gone straight on to jobseekers allowance. A few recently graduated ex students have told me when they attend job interviews it's the same story, over and over again. One of them has recently been 'successful'. She graduated, was on the dole 18 months and finally managed to get a 12k job in a call centre And there are plenty more who haven't bothered signing up who aren't in any government figures. In these times you have the official government's employment figures, then you have the real employment figures. I was made redundant from my previous job nearly two years ago and after being 6 months on the dole I was told due to my financial situation and the amount of savings I had, I was no longer entitled to any jobseeker's allowance and therefore no longer classed as unemployed, and not in any government figures. I bet there have been and still are hundreds of thousands in that boat. I wouldn't mind betting the real unemployment rate isn't that far off what it was under Thatcher. Back then you didn't get the press manipulation and figure spin you get now. Going back on topic, I don't get these publicity stunts, they conform to the Jeremy Clarkson like bigoted opinonated population who describe them as "eco-mentalists". If they had an eye-catching stand and took part in informative discussion, I'd be 100 times more likely to take notice to what they were standing for.
StuRomseySaint Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 He doesn't like them because he is jealous he has never had three/four years of zero responsibility, getting leathered and then getting an internationally recognised qualification. Fair play to them, it got them the publicity that they obviously wanted for their cause. Much more effective than the protest I saw in Knightsbridge yesterday outside Harrods anyway! Instead I travelled the world, serving my country and getting absolutely leathered when I could as well. 90% of University degrees are completely pointless, with only the specialised ones worth anything... as someone else said, hard work and determination will get you to the top... not some poxy degree ( in most cases ).
JackFrost Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Instead I travelled the world, serving my country and getting absolutely leathered when I could as well. 90% of University degrees are completely pointless, with only the specialised ones worth anything... as someone else said, hard work and determination will get you to the top... not some poxy degree ( in most cases ). A friend of a friend of mine did a course in "Golf Course Design" LOL
TopGun Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Instead I travelled the world, serving my country and getting absolutely leathered when I could as well. 90% of University degrees are completely pointless, with only the specialised ones worth anything... as someone else said, hard work and determination will get you to the top... not some poxy degree ( in most cases ). Still at the gym Stu or are you now an internet giant?
St Landrew Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Because they are just being attention whores. Err... I think that was the point. To get people's attention. And then to direct them to reason why they were coming together. Personally, I think it's an excellent way to protest. Nobody takes the blindest bit of notice of banner wavers anymore, and this causes no disruption, it doesn't harm anyone, and it looks like it's a fun thing to do. Well done those attention whores.
Thedelldays Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 why are they protesting for....we are doing something about climate change those flying to the world cup will have to pay £40 each way to pay for their "carbon footprint".. what that £80 will do for climate change is another story.
saintkiptanui Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 ... or a load of students with nothing better to do than cause a scene in the precinct on a Saurday afternoon? You decide.****in morons, I'd like to kill each and every one of the stupid student ****s.
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 ****in morons, I'd like to kill each and every one of the stupid student ****s. yawn
aintforever Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Err... I think that was the point. To get people's attention. And then to direct them to reason why they were coming together. Personally, I think it's an excellent way to protest. Nobody takes the blindest bit of notice of banner wavers anymore, and this causes no disruption, it doesn't harm anyone, and it looks like it's a fun thing to do. Well done those attention whores. So they protested about climate change by sit for hours in front of their PC on facebook (creating CO2) then made a pointless journey into town (creating more CO2) to highlight something that doesn't need highlighting because it's on the national media 24/7. ****ing attention seeking retards.
saintkiptanui Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Do you think it was anything other than cringeworthy?? 100 gimps standing still?? it was gayness of the highest, please don't tell me you were one of them??? If you were you will now be called gaylord.
Thedelldays Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 So they protested about climate change by sit for hours in front of their PC on facebook (creating CO2) then made a pointless journey into town (creating more CO2) to highlight something that doesn't need highlighting because it's on the national media 24/7. ****ing attention seeking retards. hope thefeel ashamed of their pointless carbon footprint yesterday
Johnny Bognor Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 That mob didn't look very flash to me, well not half as flash as the mob in the Plume at 2pm.
saintkiptanui Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Just a pointless attempt to show how "wacky" they are and no doubt get themselves on youtube.Correct, probably all sat at home now thinking how craaaazzy the whole thing was.
StuRomseySaint Posted 16 December, 2009 Posted 16 December, 2009 Still at the gym Stu or are you now an internet giant? Internet Giant come Renewable Energy guru come the new year... see ******** to them stupid student mongs, I will be single handedly be doing more to save the planet than all 100 of them mongs combined... and I didnt need a degree to do that...
Hopkins Posted 18 December, 2009 Posted 18 December, 2009 Nowhere near as good as the NY Grand Central one.
toofarnorth Posted 18 December, 2009 Posted 18 December, 2009 absolutely crap, compared to these guys: http://improveverywhere.com/ Looks like the B & Q Xmas party!
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