spyinthesky Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 Two great strikes by Richard lambert today. However think my old Granny could have tucked the hat trick opportunity away!! Did he miss from 2 yds?
natty_noodles Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 yes he did the ball got stuck in his foot!!
Big_Bald_Si Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 Thank god we were already 3 up at the time - it was shocking! I think my dead Gran could have tucked that bad boy away!
Saint-Reece Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 It might be the Rushden on SoccerAM for league 1 but hopefully theres been a worse miss
LeGod7 Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 Technically you have to make contact with the ball to miss...he didnt do that! Air shot!
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 I don't know which was funnier - seeing a finisher of Lambert's quality miss from 6 inches or the comedy goalkeeping that led to the opportunity in the first place .
markr27 Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 I thought he back heeled the ball off the line rather than over it!
saintwarwick Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 I don't know which was funnier - seeing a finisher of Lambert's quality miss from 6 inches or the comedy goalkeeping that led to the opportunity in the first place . I think Lambert was surprised at the goalies error in the first place
jam Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 The spill frm the goallie didn't help him, it was too close an high to steer it home.
Arizona Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 It reminded me of Kenny's miss against Birmingham in the playoff season, six inches infront of that same goal. Challenged the 'keeper, knocked the ball up into the air. Landed on top of his head and bounced out. He was on a hat-trick then too.
Rory Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 It reminded me of Kenny's miss against Birmingham in the playoffs, six inches infront of that same goal. Challenged the 'keeper, knocked the ball up into the air. Landed on top of his head and bounced out. He was on a hat-trick then too. In the playoffs? What are you talking about?
beatlesaint Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 Terrible miss. Sell him.......he's rubbish !
rockhill Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 The second is a bit good Can we keep him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3X89PM1bLc
beatlesaint Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 The second is a bit good Can we keep him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3X89PM1bLc Oh, alright then......since you asked so nicely !!!
S-Clarke Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 The second is a bit good Can we keep him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3X89PM1bLc thanks for that. great goal! lol @ the hand ball too, wtf was he doing..!!! looked like he thought he was playing vollyball or something
Arizona Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 Shame the footage of Harding's goal is messed up, that was a belter. The penalty though... jeez. Their defender Maradonna'd that good 'n' propper.
rockhill Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 Shame the footage of Harding's goal is messed up, that was a belter. The penalty though... jeez. Their defender Maradonna'd that good 'n' propper. Tomorrow a another day With luck it many get longer!!
suewhistle Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 Thanks for that! Replayed a number of times. Harding's was a pretty crisp shot too!
SaintDonkey Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 Shame the footage of Harding's goal is messed up, that was a belter. The penalty though... jeez. Their defender Maradonna'd that good 'n' propper. How the ref decided that wasn't intentional (i.e. a straight red) is beyond me.
benjii Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 How the ref decided that wasn't intentional (i.e. a straight red) is beyond me. What? Handball is a yellow card and there should always be an element of intent otherwise it's not a foul.
SaintDonkey Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 What? Handball is a yellow card and there should always be an element of intent otherwise it's not a foul. http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lawsofthegameen.pdf Sending-off Offences A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off if he commits any of the following seven offences: • serious foul play • violent conduct • spitting at an opponent or any other person • denying the opposing team a goal or an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by deliberately handling the ball HTH
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 It was deliberate handball but not an obvious goal-scoring opportunity.
SaintDonkey Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 It was deliberate handball but not an obvious goal-scoring opportunity. The defender handled the ball away from the top of Lambert's head from 3 yards out. How on earth is that not a goal scoring opportunity?
RedAndWhite91 Posted 12 December, 2009 Posted 12 December, 2009 The second is a bit good Can we keep him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3X89PM1bLc Thanks for that, nice one.
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 The defender handled the ball away from the top of Lambert's head from 3 yards out. How on earth is that not a goal scoring opportunity? To send somebody off you have to be pretty certain that a goal would have been scored. There was no certainty that Lambert would have headed it, nor that he would not have headed over, nor that the goalkeeper or somebody on the line would have stopped it - in the opinion of the referee. I remember it as several yards out, and the ball was going across goal. Now if he had handled after Lambert had headed it and it was going towards goal the that's a different story. What on earth was he thinking? It was both hands FFS.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 To send somebody off you have to be pretty certain that a goal would have been scored. There was no certainty that Lambert would have headed it, nor that he would not have headed over, nor that the goalkeeper or somebody on the line would have stopped it - in the opinion of the referee. I remember it as several yards out, and the ball was going across goal. Now if he had handled after Lambert had headed it and it was going towards goal the that's a different story. What on earth was he thinking? It was both hands FFS. Look at it another way - we will never know what magic Rickie would have conjured up to score a great goal IF he had not been robbed of the goal scoring OPPORTUNITY by Broom. Broom even took the ball with BOTH hands - it was so obviously a deliberate attempt to manipulate the ball away from Lambert IMO and the ref had a clear view of the offence too. It was a nailed on red card - AP thought so too - the ref was hopeless most of the game and he either bottled it or just decided to ignore the obvious. Shocking decision!
The Kraken Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 To send somebody off you have to be pretty certain that a goal would have been scored. There was no certainty that Lambert would have headed it, nor that he would not have headed over, nor that the goalkeeper or somebody on the line would have stopped it - in the opinion of the referee. I remember it as several yards out, and the ball was going across goal. Now if he had handled after Lambert had headed it and it was going towards goal the that's a different story. What on earth was he thinking? It was both hands FFS. Incorrect. The rules state it is a sending off offence for "a deliberate handling offense to deny an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by any player other than a goalkeeper in his own penalty area". Nothing about whether it will be a pretty certain goal or not, simply that a good goal-scoring opportunity was denied. Denying an otherwise unchallenged header from literally six yards out clearly falls into that category.
John Boy Saint Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 The other thing with Rickies miss was the ball came from behind him and before he went to strike it he looked at the lino to see if he was off by the time he had looked back to strike it the ball had moved........ Sack the Ball!!
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 December, 2009 Posted 13 December, 2009 Incorrect. The rules state it is a sending off offence for "a deliberate handling offense to deny an obvious goal-scoring opportunity by any player other than a goalkeeper in his own penalty area". Nothing about whether it will be a pretty certain goal or not, simply that a good goal-scoring opportunity was denied. Denying an otherwise unchallenged header from literally six yards out clearly falls into that category. This is a decision for the referee, the debate is over 'obvious goal-scoring opportunity' and whilst you might have decided otherwise, you cannot say that his decision was incorrect.
saintwarwick Posted 14 December, 2009 Posted 14 December, 2009 This is a decision for the referee, the debate is over 'obvious goal-scoring opportunity' and whilst you might have decided otherwise, you cannot say that his decision was incorrect. I can, it was a deliberate attempt to stop a goalscoring opportunity, the ref was crap most of the game so it didn't surprise me he bottled it on this one.
david in sweden Posted 14 December, 2009 Posted 14 December, 2009 Two great strikes by Richard lambert today. However think my old Granny could have tucked the hat trick opportunity away!! Did he miss from 2 yds? This happens all the time, but let's not be too hard on someone who's well on his way to 20 goals before the New Year and our new " hero" . I recall a conversation with some older fans about Derek Reeves, our record goalscorer when we were last in this league ..50 years ago ! Reeves (for the uninitated) scored 46 goals (39 league and 7 cup) in 1959-60 when we were Div.3 South Champs. Reeves (they said) scored goals with almost every part of his anatomy, but they all counted. " 46 goals sounds a lot, one man said to me, but he (Reeves) missed 100 " Let's be patient with Lambert, he's looking good so far - and already top scorer in L1.
The Kraken Posted 14 December, 2009 Posted 14 December, 2009 This is a decision for the referee, the debate is over 'obvious goal-scoring opportunity' and whilst you might have decided otherwise, you cannot say that his decision was incorrect. The law was not intended to be a murky area, it was intended to be simple. Which is why the law doesn't differentiate, as you seem to believe, between whether the striker would have scored or not. It's a simple question; was a goal-scoring opportunity denied by the handball. And the clear answer is yes. So, yes, I can say his decision was incorrect. Watch the replay again, it's on bbc iplayer. There is no doubt whatsoever that, without the handball, Lambert would have had a clear header. Whether he would have scored, missed, had it saved, cleared off the line, is irrelevant. The "opportunity" to score with a header from 6 yards out was denied solely by the handball, therefore its a red card.
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 December, 2009 Posted 14 December, 2009 The law was not intended to be a murky area, it was intended to be simple. Which is why the law doesn't differentiate, as you seem to believe, between whether the striker would have scored or not. It's a simple question; was a goal-scoring opportunity denied by the handball. And the clear answer is yes. So, yes, I can say his decision was incorrect. Watch the replay again, it's on bbc iplayer. There is no doubt whatsoever that, without the handball, Lambert would have had a clear header. Whether he would have scored, missed, had it saved, cleared off the line, is irrelevant. The "opportunity" to score with a header from 6 yards out was denied solely by the handball, therefore its a red card. Some would have given a red card, some not. Besides, it was only two hands
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