Thedelldays Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Another reason why I was angry he was appointed then happy he left quickly after poor manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Is it 2004 AGAIN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/plymouth_argyle/8405711.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Poor nickh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 I guess it must be hard when the club are forced to keep selling your best players. Sturrock was not a poor manager when he joined us as two promotions testify, he has the same average record at Sheff Wed as the manager before and as Brian Laws since. I'm sure at the right set up he will do alright again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Another reason why I was angry he was appointed then happy he left quickly after poor manager I thought his appointment was fairly regressive in terms of taking the club forward but TBH I wasn't happy when he left. In his 13 games he W5 D2 L6 (not a bad record) and the last thing we needed was the managerial revolving door at it's peak at a time when WGS left and some stability was needed. I can see why people didn't exactly take to him, I think the biggest factor in him leaving was a personality clash between him and Lowe. Then Lowe gets Jason Dodd knocking on his office and door and the rest is history. The unrest aside, Sturrock still had a decent if short record here and I wish he'd have been given til the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pugwash Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Interesting comment from one of the Green Army: "...but there is no denying that during his second tenure at the club we sold ALL of our best players, and we have bought some absolute shockers." Could he be referring to Paul Wotton and BWP?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Interesting comment from one of the Green Army: "...but there is no denying that during his second tenure at the club we sold ALL of our best players, and we have bought some absolute shockers." Could he be referring to Paul Wotton and BWP?? Maybe only partly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Another manager loses his job afer having to sell his best players. Despite Dulldays hatred and lack of knowledge of him, i rate Sturrock as a decent manager who has had more successess than failures at clubs. Saints actually played some great football under him with great displays and exciting football from a young side. Happy memories of away wins at Wolves and Man Citeeh and home games v Liverpool and Newcastle spring to mind. I personally wish him all the best in whatever he does and with his battle with parkinson's disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 December, 2009 Author Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Another manager loses his job afer having to sell his best players. Despite Dulldays hatred and lack of knowledge of him, i rate Sturrock as a decent manager who has had more successess than failures at clubs. Saints actually played some great football under him with great displays and exciting football from a young side. Happy memories of away wins at Wolves and Man Citeeh and home games v Liverpool and Newcastle spring to mind. I personally wish him all the best in whatever he does and with his battle with parkinson's disease. you do realise that I have lived in plymouth for the last 10 years..? tell me what he has done that is so good out side of league 1....dont peddle out his saints record as we have seen with pardew..the first 10 games dont really count where do I hate him you arse..? I just think he is a terrible manager above league 1....and now, it seems the fans of the club he gave their greatest achievement to, agree...unless, they also "hate him and have no knowledge" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Poor nickh. Lol. MB he has a goatee. I would love to come back with a good retort of an undesirable that you loosely resemble but I can't think of anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Paul Sturrock's managerial career Team From To Games Won Lost Drawn Plymouth 27-11-2007 Present 100 28 50 22 Swindon 07-11-2006 27-11-2007 52 26 15 11 Sheff Wed 23-09-2004 19-10-2006 104 35 40 29 Southampton 04-03-2004 23-08-2004 13 5 6 2 Plymouth 31-10-2000 04-03-2004 178 85 46 47 Dundee Utd 05-09-1998 07-08-2000 85 27 39 19 St Johnstone 01-08-1993 05-09-1998 197 90 51 56 I'd say that's not a bad record for a manager who has managed clubs on limited budgets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Lol. MB he has a goatee. I would love to come back with a good retort of an undesirable that you loosely resemble but I can't think of anyone. Plus, I haven't seen you in a while, who's to say you don't have a goatee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 December, 2009 Author Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Paul Sturrock's managerial career Team From To Games Won Lost Drawn Plymouth 27-11-2007 Present 100 28 50 22 Swindon 07-11-2006 27-11-2007 52 26 15 11 Sheff Wed 23-09-2004 19-10-2006 104 35 40 29 Southampton 04-03-2004 23-08-2004 13 5 6 2 Plymouth 31-10-2000 04-03-2004 178 85 46 47 Dundee Utd 05-09-1998 07-08-2000 85 27 39 19 St Johnstone 01-08-1993 05-09-1998 197 90 51 56 I'd say that's not a bad record for a manager who has managed clubs on limited budgets. again...above league 1....anything of note..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 again...above league 1....anything of note..? not getting relegated(despite your predictions) with a club punching above their weight perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 December, 2009 Author Share Posted 10 December, 2009 not getting relegated(despite your predictions) with a club punching above their weight perhaps? hmmm......the fans of said club will argue that...before you say I am clueless, I live in said city and have done for 10 years.. unless, you know better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 hmmm......the fans of said club will argue that...before you say I am clueless, I live in said city and have done for 10 years.. unless, you know better you could live in Portsmuff, Southampton, Plymouth, London, Exeter, in the sea... etc and still be clueless....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Is it 2004 AGAIN? Can you imagine having to live through all that again? Wouldn't be too bad I suppose, at least you'd KNOW good times were ahead and you could win a fair bit in the bookies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 not getting relegated(despite your predictions) with a club punching above their weight perhaps? Plymouth aren't punching above their weight, they are a second tier team. Pulis and Holloway did a better job at Argyle than Luggy did. And I like Luggy, it was a shame it didn't work out at Saints but I think his tenure would have ended in failure even if he was given longer. There is no question he is an excelllent lower tier manager - his record at PAFC first time, Sheff Weds and Swindon prove this. But like TDD says, he just does not cut it higher up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 Another reason why I was angry he was appointed then happy he left quickly after poor manager Just a shame he didn't relegate them last season eh TDD? :smt040 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 wasnt sturrock one of those lower-tier managers we signed after his side knocked us out of the cup? on the tenuous theory that if they were good enough to beat us the manager must be terrific? my memory might be playing tricks, but I think that was the dave jones/stockport model as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 10 December, 2009 Share Posted 10 December, 2009 wasnt sturrock one of those lower-tier managers we signed after his side knocked us out of the cup? on the tenuous theory that if they were good enough to beat us the manager must be terrific? my memory might be playing tricks, but I think that was the dave jones/stockport model as well Your memory is playing tricks. Sturrock got Plymouth Argyle promoted from League Two in 2002 and they were promoted again in 2004, to the Championship, shortly after he joined us, but the Championship promotion is very much considered his doing. That's why we signed him, and apparently WGS recommended him to Lowe, as well. Tbh, if he had stayed where he was, and we hadn't f***** about with his career, then he'd possibly still be doing OK at Argyle now. Once again, Saints were under-ambitious in seeking Sturrock out, but he gave a reasonable account of himself in the short time he was with us. Some very good victories were managed under his tenure, at the end of the 2003-04 season. Whippings to Man City 3-1 away at Eastlands, and Wolves 4-1 away at Moulineux were of his doing. Credit where it is due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 December, 2009 Share Posted 11 December, 2009 Plus, I haven't seen you in a while, who's to say you don't have a goatee you got my goat up does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 11 December, 2009 Share Posted 11 December, 2009 you got my goat up does that count? Hopefully see ya tomorrow :smt008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 December, 2009 Share Posted 11 December, 2009 Hopefully see ya tomorrow :smt008 yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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