Whitey Grandad Posted 7 December, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I would suggest Whitey emails David Lucker, point out his frustration but understanding and ask if he would email should the sales justify opening Kingsland Central later this month so that he can make a decision when and where to puchase a seat for the game. Thanks, that was my intention. Does anybody know Mr. Luker's direct email address? (That's if they'll trust me with it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 I despair of some Saints fans sometimes. I am unashamedly 1970's/80' old school and it used to be that you supported Saints rain or shine through thick and thin - till you die. Now it seems you only support he Saints if you can get your "own" comfy seat and not be bothered by other people standing up or shouting loudly. I'm sure this sort of conversation doesn't go on with the scousers or geordies - but could be wrong. you are wrong. When St James Park ST holders were told to move to allow corporates to have their seats there was uproar and some even took the club to court over their actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 December, 2009 Share Posted 7 December, 2009 how embarrassing.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 It isn't and I don't. I have two season tickets in prime position on the halfway line and I have had them since we moved to St. Mary's. If I wanted to sit behind the goal then I would have bought season tickets there. My big complaint is that I wasted 45 minutes this morning going out of my way so as to be reasonbly sure of getting my usual seat and it was a waste of my time which is very valuable to me, and I was not the only whose time was wasted this morning. There is no mention of any of these wholesale closures on the OS. Those of you who only attend the occasional match may not care where you sit or who you sit next to but we season ticket holders who have been supporting the club financially through thin and thin like the comradeship and familiarity of our matchday routine. As I say, I should have thought that the club would start with opening the Itchen and Kingsland and then progress from there, as they have done in previous matches where a low trurnout was expected. I must sit fairly close to you and I agree with everything you've said. In fact, I have bought my seat before now only to then be told it's unallocated seating - now that IS annoying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 Jesus it really isn't that big a deal. Weston saint's suggestion seems sensible but then there was no need for a thread on it. The reason they have done it seems obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 December, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 December, 2009 Jesus it really isn't that big a deal. Weston saint's suggestion seems sensible but then there was no need for a thread on it. The reason they have done it seems obvious. I started a thread so that others in my situation would not waste time trying to buy a ticket for their own seat. The reason is obvious but the choice of closing the Kingsland is not. Why close the most popular and populous stand in the ground, the one with the highest concentration of long-term season-ticket holders? Has it ever been done before in the history of first-team football at St. Mary's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 I started a thread so that others in my situation would not waste time trying to buy a ticket for their own seat. The reason is obvious but the choice of closing the Kingsland is not. Why close the most popular and populous stand in the ground, the one with the highest concentration of long-term season-ticket holders? Has it ever been done before in the history of first-team football at St. Mary's? I sit in the Northam and accept we have to move on certain games. i have called for us to have us have a proper home end I would be fine if the club moved the Northam to the Chapel so we could all raise the roof together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Neil Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 The desk clerk said 'it's only Rotherham. Do they know something we dont, Isnt the replay with Luton tonight? Might have a bet on them to win now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsarum Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 I started a thread so that others in my situation would not waste time trying to buy a ticket for their own seat. The reason is obvious but the choice of closing the Kingsland is not. Why close the most popular and populous stand in the ground, the one with the highest concentration of long-term season-ticket holders? Has it ever been done before in the history of first-team football at St. Mary's? Yes initially for JPS matches with Torquay and Charlton, although tickets were avaialble in Northam Wing in end for Torquay and half the stand was eventually open for Charlton. I too sit in the Kingsland and had to sit in the Tichen for Torquay and absolutely hated it, it all seems more cramped and restricted in theat area and the facilities, tilets, bars etc. in the Kingsland IMO are far superior to those in the Itchen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 Kingsland is not visible when the goals are shown on TV, hence they've closed it, so it improves the perception of SFC to the TV audience. Ultimately, if enough people go to the game, the Kingsland will have to open. The Club should still be encouraging people to go on the OS as the prices are pretty good. Then I shall wait until the Kingsland opens. It is a Saturday match - there is absolutely no reason to suppose a low turnout. The club have made a wrong call here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 Then I shall wait until the Kingsland opens. It is a Saturday match - there is absolutely no reason to suppose a low turnout. The club have made a wrong call here. Completely disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Mikey Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 I can understand Whitey Grandads initial frustration. When you buy a season ticket you know it does not include cup games but you expect to have first pick for your usual seat. Cost cutting is necessary in this division and few will argue with that. Why the Itchen open? Well I suspect that is because the Corporate Boxes and "Directors" seats are in that stand. The Northam holds our noisiest supporters. I would suggest Whitey emails David Lucker, point out his frustration but understanding and ask if he would email should the sales justify opening Kingsland Central later this month so that he can make a decision when and where to puchase a seat for the game. I suggest he just gets a ticket in the f'ing Itchen. Why the fook do we have to email someone at the club every 2 mins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 I suggest he just gets a ticket in the f'ing Itchen. Why the fook do we have to email someone at the club every 2 mins? Totally agree it is massively embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 Completely disagree. Your prerogative of course but I think they have. I often don't make midweek games because I simply cannot get there on time or I have other things on. I am sure that applies to many others. But Saturdays I will always go. I don't think that the crowd will be significantly lower than our normal league games. We're WINNING for heavens sake. That usually brings crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Exile Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 I didn't say I wouldn't go if I could not sit in my usual seat, just that I made a special journey today so that I could have a reasonable chance of buying it only to find that the whole of the Kingsland was closed with no mention of this on the OS, and I wasn't the only one. There's no point getting a ticket today in case circumstances change so I might just as well wait until nearer the game, or even turn up on the day. For those people who are thinking of buying a season ticket this is one more reason not to. Some of you have obviously studied customer relations at the (insert pet hate here) British Gas school of commerce. Sorry Whitey I don't mean to pick on you but your post just highlights where we differ. I don't think of us as customers of Saints in the same way as we are customers of British Gas, Boots or indeed anyone else. With retailers you have a choice and with Saints you don't. Our role is to support - through rain and shine, thick and thin and for life. That's the contract you make when you support a club. Certainly have a moan now and then and let the club know how you feel but at the end of the day just buy a bleeding ticket and go and support them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 Thanks, that was my intention. Does anybody know Mr. Luker's direct email address? (That's if they'll trust me with it). dluker@saintsfc.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Exile Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 you are wrong. When St James Park ST holders were told to move to allow corporates to have their seats there was uproar and some even took the club to court over their actions. Fair enough. Looks like the prawn sandwich brigade have infiltrated everywhere. However, my point still remains. Newcastle, Liverpool etc are still seen as hotbeds of football and that's because of fan's committment and their fanaticism. Southampton is not and that's because of us and Whitey's whinging because he can't sit in a particular seat and others who don't want to be getting up and down during play just underline this. Like I said, we get the club we deserve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 There are some ghey people on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 December, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 December, 2009 Sorry Whitey I don't mean to pick on you but your post just highlights where we differ. I don't think of us as customers of Saints in the same way as we are customers of British Gas, Boots or indeed anyone else. With retailers you have a choice and with Saints you don't. Our role is to support - through rain and shine, thick and thin and for life. That's the contract you make when you support a club. Certainly have a moan now and then and let the club know how you feel but at the end of the day just buy a bleeding ticket and go and support them. Please feel free to pick on me, everybody else does . I shall go to the game no matter what, but there are may levels of support and, like it or not, the club is a commercial operation which need to maximise its revenue whilst minimising its costs and getting it right is a delicate balance. My main complaint is not that I cannot buy my seat, but that nowhere on the OS does is state that the Kingsland is closed, hence the reason for the title of this thread as a notification for others in my situation.Indeed, trying to find ticket information for this match is an exercise for the truly devoted, which is poor commercial practice. As a secondary issue, I was surprised that they are only expecting 16,000 for a Saturday game in the post-Christmas doldrum but I was told 'it's only Rotherham' (!). So what? We all go to watch Saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 I would be amazed if we get more than 18k for the FA cup game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 I would be amazed if we get more than 18k for the FA cup game 18k would undermine any justification for closing the Kingsland. That is a normal crowd. I do not understand why people are getting sniffy when the club are being challenged about closing a stand when there is unlikely to be any need for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 December, 2009 Author Share Posted 8 December, 2009 I would be amazed if we get more than 18k for the FA cup game If we don't it will only be because half the stadium is closed. (Let me know if this gets a bit tedious) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 18k would undermine any justification for closing the Kingsland. That is a normal crowd. I do not understand why people are getting sniffy when the club are being challenged about closing a stand when there is unlikely to be any need for it. the club wont close those parts of the ground as people probably have season tickets there...FA cup games, they could close parts of the ground and save a few pennies.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Worm Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 speaking of FA Cup, Luton 1-0 up against Rotherham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 Luton now 2-0 up.Looks like we may be playing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 Luton now 2-0 up.Looks like we may be playing them. They may well bring a big following. No pushover as they beat S****horpe in the JPT final at Wembley in May. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxfordshire_saint Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 The Boxing Day and New Years games usually get a good turnout don't they? I'd expect around 20k for this one, especially if they bring decent support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 Luton only went out of the league, due to the totally unfair -30 points. They have alot of quality players and will be no pushover. They have already beaten probably the two best sides in division 3 to get this far. I agree totally with Derry that they will bring a massive following.[ probably 2500-3500, depending how many tickets they get]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StDunko Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 I really think the Ticket Office have underestimated how many people will go to this game. I assume that it will be a 3:00pm kick off on the Saturday (although I have yet to find this confirmed anywhere). Luton MIGHT bring a good few down for their season's "cup final". Plus ticket prices have been slashed to only £15!!! As I have posted before on this thread, I would not be surprised if £20k turn up. Especially if you consider that we have already sold 18k for Exeter which is only a few day earlier. So why are we closing parts of the ground? Does the club know something we don't? Have the TV games already been picked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 8 December, 2009 Share Posted 8 December, 2009 Then I shall wait until the Kingsland opens. It is a Saturday match - there is absolutely no reason to suppose a low turnout. The club have made a wrong call here. With Luton getting through, there's even more chance of the Kingsland opening. As Luton can have c.4,500 if they think they'll sell them, moving Saints fans out of the Northam into the other parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 December, 2009 Share Posted 9 December, 2009 With Luton getting through, there's even more chance of the Kingsland opening. As Luton can have c.4,500 if they think they'll sell them, moving Saints fans out of the Northam into the other parts. What is luton's typical he gate? Why do people think they will bring nearly 5k fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 9 December, 2009 Share Posted 9 December, 2009 What is luton's typical he gate? Why do people think they will bring nearly 5k fans? For the same reason they took close to 40.000 fans to Wembley. A return to the glory days for them. They are potentially a much bigger club than their ground, finances or circumstances allow and any reason to jump on a glory band wagon their fans are going to take. I don't think they'll bring the full 4.6k allocation but certainly wouldn't be surprised to see them sell-out the normal 3.2k away section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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