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VectisSaint

VectisSaint

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Slightly surprised, I thought we invested a lot of money in Staplewood when SCW was around. Clearly apart from the Dome the changes were not as extensive as we were lead to believe (surprise surprise).

 

Does anyone know what will become of the fish tank? Will it be upgraded to a new Sea World attraction?

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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Was waiting for this to start, apparentley Nicola/Markus will be making a huge invesment in the training and acadamy structure.

 

I believe the ''lodge'' for the acadamy is also moving to the training ground site.

 

Boo. I quite liked the fact that that was right by my road!

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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Slightly surprised, I thought we invested a lot of money in Staplewood when SCW was around. Clearly apart from the Dome the changes were not as extensive as we were lead to believe (surprise surprise).

 

Does anyone know what will become of the fish tank? Will it be upgraded to a new Sea World attraction?

 

Correct me if im wrong...but i think the Dome was always there before the redevelopment a few years ago, but what SCW and co added was an extension on the end, which included a players lounge, new gym (including the eye gym lol...) and the infamous fish tank ;)

 

there was a tour of it on the old saints player, but that's long gone now.

hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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This is going to sound controvercial.... but had this been done under any of the previous regimes' date=' would fans not have come out in force giving them a slagging that we should be spending it on the first team....?[/quote']

 

But tbf that was when funds were limited. Now it appears that we will be doing this as well as investing in the squad. Looks good to me...

Kingsland Red

Kingsland Red

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What is it with Cedar cladding in modern architecture - its everywhere... does look nice though. ;-)

 

As a subscriber to the Architect's Journal and Building Design magazines I can confirm it's called 'sustainability'.

Timber cladding being a sustainable material.

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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How did you pick up on this ? - I spend enough time on this forum without ploughing my way through planning permissions as well.

 

I guess he found it because there are loads of stories about it on news sites. For example...

 

http://www.football.co.uk/southampton/saints_target_training_ground_upgrade_rss279973.shtml

 

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,1783_5753497,00.html

 

http://www.football.virginmedia.com/page/Southampton/NewsDetail/0,,12555~1897914,00.html

jam

jam

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i guess we've looked into the possibility of expanding, as we were keen on a world cup bid - but i cannot imagine that will be done until we look like we're heading for the premiership. (i.e top 6 championship...)

 

I would say actually in the prem and regular sellouts. Those two would make a match day ticket something sought after again.

Red And White Barmy Army

Red And White Barmy Army

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WOW!!! i'm more impressed with this long-term investment of a premiership facility than the potential of 3 world cup games. Our greatest home victory since relegation in 2005. As if we needed it, this is the proof beyond all else that we are premiership bound soon and our owner wants it bad!

saint peach

saint peach

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No. The reason it is on that site is because the Press Association spotted the info on this forum.

Saint Fan CaM

Saint Fan CaM

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dc3fcx.jpg

 

 

Did anyone else think, "that's a lot of glass to have right next door to the main stadium pitch"?!? Looks very impressive I must say - would be a pleasure to go there and watch the lads train.

Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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The article for the training ground keeps mentioning "lack of space " on the site. I wonder if they have or would consider moving completely to a new site. Maybe hard to do with planning and green belts but would give more space.

 

I wonder if any plans have been drawn up to improve St Mary's?

 

Changing rooms at St Mary's have already been done in last few weeks but will anything else internally be upgraded or a stadium capacity expansion in the pipeline for potentially playing in the Premiership again.

 

They should look at continuing the decoration of the concourses and surrounding area IMO.

benjii

benjii

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So much for Rupes' "world class" facilities.

 

Anyway, has anyone sent the pdf link to a skate yet? :)

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Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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I wonder how it compares to...

 

Stokes £5m development

 

http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/TrainingGroundIndex/0,,10310,00.html

 

Colchester £2m development

 

http://www.cu-fc.com/page/News/0,,10424~1821471,00.html

 

Tottenham Hotspur £30m development

 

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/futureplans/trainingcentre/index.html

 

Chelsea

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e75o63E3RLk

 

As well as these examples there are quite a few other Prem and Non Prem teams currently with plans to improve training grounds or have recently completed.

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Saint 76er

Saint 76er

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Did anyone else think, "that's a lot of glass to have right next door to the main stadium pitch"?!? Looks very impressive I must say - would be a pleasure to go there and watch the lads train.

 

If you look at the architect's doodlings on the pdf presentation they appear to allude to the windows being reinforced to enable footballs to bounce off. Wouldn't be our boys being so wildly inaccurate with their kicks of course. ;)

 

Also the architects say existing buildings are too dark and dingy and their brief was to flood the interior with natural light to make it a welcoming environment.

 

Press conference tomorrow, wonder what changes they have made from the original plans above and have they used spell check this time!

 

Maybe a recovery/lap pool perhaps?

 

Seems to be all that is really missing from these proposals, however can the builders amongst us please advise if it is feasible for a project of this magnitude to actually be finished by next July, as they are quoting?

 

Strictly as a layman it seems a bit tight to me, I mean knocking down the existing structures and putting up the new edifice, complete with complex fit outs and allowing for inevitable bad weather..

derry

derry

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I wonder how it compares to...

 

Stokes £5m development

 

http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/TrainingGroundIndex/0,,10310,00.html

 

Colchester £2m development

 

http://www.cu-fc.com/page/News/0,,10424~1821471,00.html

 

Tottenham Hotspur £30m development

 

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/futureplans/trainingcentre/index.html

 

Chelsea

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e75o63E3RLk

 

As well as these examples there are quite a few other Prem and Non Prem teams currently with plans to improve training grounds or have recently completed.

 

This is probably startup brand new investment including the land, We've already got a decent training setup and are upgrading. With the upgrading Staplewood would probably be compareable to equivalent new Premier style setups.

doggface

doggface

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I wonder how it compares to...

 

Stokes £5m development

 

http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/TrainingGroundIndex/0,,10310,00.html

 

Colchester £2m development

 

http://www.cu-fc.com/page/News/0,,10424~1821471,00.html

 

Tottenham Hotspur £30m development

 

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/futureplans/trainingcentre/index.html

 

Chelsea

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e75o63E3RLk

 

As well as these examples there are quite a few other Prem and Non Prem teams currently with plans to improve training grounds or have recently completed.

 

What needs to be remembered when looking at costings is we already own our site so do not need to pay for the land or landscaping where as all of those are new sites.

 

I guess we will find out what changes are made tomorrow - would have thought a pool would have been looked at??

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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The plans at present are missing any king of water facility. I hope the changes the Echo mention to the plans will include the high tech rehabilitation, hydrotherapy pools and training pools that are commonplace at all new Premiership training grounds.

 

Maybe they should move the academy accommodation onto the training site to make it like a university campus. :)

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krissyboy31

krissyboy31

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This is probably startup brand new investment including the land, We've already got a decent training setup and are upgrading. With the upgrading Staplewood would probably be compareable to equivalent new Premier style setups.

 

Stoke look like they started theirs from scratch on the Michelin sports ground near Newcastle-under-Lyme. Their plans look very similar to what we are proposing but do include a hydrotherapy pool.

 

Our proposals though are nowhere near the size and expense of Chelsea's Cobham training facility nor the proposed Tottenham scheme.

 

Property prices will vary for all of these schemes and I would thing the land costs at Cobham would be much higher than Marchwood but in the Potteries much lower.

saints triumph

saints triumph

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Interesting indeed....but, as a teacher I too am unimpressed by the spellings for an official document!

 

As for the club..well done! Let's invest in the future.

According to the O/S, THE BOXING DAY GAME AGAINST EXETER IS BEING PLAYED ON THE 26TH OF NOVEMBER. Now that is unimpressive.

The9

The9

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Good news and shows these guys mean business.

 

I wonder when Wellington Sports Ground is getting some showers?

 

Hey, Welly has a LOT of showers. At least in 1994 when I last played there there were shower rooms for every two changing rooms, and they were quite clean too.

 

Bloody small and much worse than the ones the Uni moved to at Wide Lane, but that's progress... for everyone except Portsmouth FC anyway...

Fitzhugh Fella

Fitzhugh Fella

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I wonder how it compares to...

 

Stokes £5m development

 

http://www.stokecityfc.com/page/TrainingGroundIndex/0,,10310,00.html

 

Colchester £2m development

 

http://www.cu-fc.com/page/News/0,,10424~1821471,00.html

 

Tottenham Hotspur £30m development

 

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/futureplans/trainingcentre/index.html

 

Chelsea

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e75o63E3RLk

 

As well as these examples there are quite a few other Prem and Non Prem teams currently with plans to improve training grounds or have recently completed.

 

 

It is very interesting seeing all these plans.

I am not one to get too excited by Saintly matters either off or on the pitch but I am really pleased to hear of the club's plans.

For me this shows Liebherr and Cortese are taking things very seriously and are in it for the long term which is excellent news.

 

It is very easy to be left behind which is why looking at what clubs like Stoke are doing is an indication of how much we have to keep abreast.

 

There is no doubt we have a Premiership stadium but Staplewood, although regarded as a Prem facility 5 or 6 years ago has already slipped behind because of our recent financial difficulties. Having a good training environment is very persuasive argument when signing players.

 

This news is as important as a big signing for me - lets hope the New Forest council don't start playing jobsworth games.

saint lard

saint lard

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Very impressive, I suggest that someone posts this on one of the Skate websites (I am not well informed on these things!) just to make them feel even more inferior !!!!

 

Trust me it has.

SaintRichmond

SaintRichmond

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This is going to sound controvercial.... but had this been done under any of the previous regimes' date=' would fans not have come out in force giving them a slagging that we should be spending it on the first team.[/b']...?

 

Had it been done under any previous Regime, the General Hospital would have been swamped by 30000 Cardiac Arrests

 

It comes under the heading "INVESTMENT" ..... something that *".@ (you know who) was totally against:D

Gordon Mockles

Gordon Mockles

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Had it been done under any previous Regime, the General Hospital would have been swamped by 30000 Cardiac Arrests

 

It comes under the heading "INVESTMENT" ..... something that *".@ (you know who) was totally against:D

 

Would they? Huge piece of salt and hindsight and inane speculation, but I do realise you're taking the p*ss!

 

Without going off on one and being too serious and devoid of humility - Let's be fair, the old regime would never have invested any of their personal wealth to faciliate and progress the club forward. Nor would they have invested in players and shrewdly ran the club. They preferred to thrust forward (largely) inadequte youth team players to the detriment of the professionals, farm out all performing youth players hitting form for the first time in first team football and put the money into dividends or shareholders pockets. Pas decisions weren't all bad - the investment and focus of the Academy was important and well received (by me) but any chairman should realise this, as Cortese and most clubs do. It's the future and an important revenue stream for smaller/selling clubs like Saints and should be obligatory. Pardew has gone one better and seems to also be targetting non league players that may make the grade. Focusing on Academies like Glen Hoddle has set up may also be a good option for clubs of smaller stature.

 

Lallana, for instance, would be gone under past regimes. Key barometer of the difference in mentality from past Chairmanship - Player 1.) Bale had interest from other clubs. SFC Chairman made a derisory contract offer to Bale so he had no choice but to progress his career - he left for Spurs. New scenario (Player 2) - Clubs come sniffing around Lallana, Adam is mildy unsettled. The club issue a hands off statement and Pardew makes every effort to persuade Adam to stay, the club support Lallana and he continues to be an important part of first team plans and hits the best form of his career. One word - ambition! He may well want to move on come Jan or next season but we have MADE EVERY EFFORT to keep the player, that's all we can do.

 

Well done Saints and the new regime. Finally some competency, ambition and frugal transfer policy and rebuilding (coaching set-up, through to Dodd and the Academy). I am confident we're in very good hands.

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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MLG, the facilities on FM are already as good as they can be aren't they? ;)

 

No, they were downgraded for FM08 and FM09. Saints used to have very good facilities. But have fallen behind due to lack of investment whilst other clubs improved as Nicole Cortese states in the press conference. This development will give them a boost for FM11 (if they get planning permission).

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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Yep, same here. Hs happened on a few videos on Saints player now like the 2nd half highlights of the Gillingham game:(

 

Email them and complain, I have already :)

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Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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Seems odd that they've held a press conference but it's not even been made a news item on the OS.

 

It will by the end of the day I reckon. Likely it was only the Daily Echo, local radio, ITV and BBC TV local news there anyway :)

Matthew Le God

Matthew Le God

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Halfway through the PC the picture freezes and all I can hear is a tapping noise. Anyone else getting this?

 

Wow, that is good and quick support :) I only sent the email off a little time before.

 

Hi,

 

Thanks for contacting us,

 

We will now get these videos re-uploaded to the site, thanks for bringing this to our attention.

 

Many Thanks

 

Web Support

St Landrew

St Landrew

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Link now on the OS - I heart ML & NC - could we have better owners?

 

Just thinking the same thing. At the moment I'm just trying to capture the feeling of the despair and hopelessness of just 6 months or so ago, because I want to remember never to genuinely feel like that again, about my football team. How we'd all pretty much felt Saints had gone into a downward spiral over the last 5-6 years. I know we'd had a couple of odd moments in the intervening seasons to cheers about, but it was all managed decline; and as it turned out, badly managed decline, at that. Back in May of this year, if someone had told me that Saints would be being this professional, this organised, this forward looking, and this positive, in such a short time, I'd have told them to bottle the elixir they were drinking, because it would have made their fortune.

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