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The French are a 'bunch of cheats'.

 

Really? I thought just one of them handled the ball.

 

Has an English player ever handled a ball deliberately to gain an advantage? Yes, so the English are also a bunch of cheats, and should be excluded from the World cup, right?

 

Would the Irish have won the match if Henry had not handled the ball? Possibly, but more likely no, they wouldn't have.

 

Which of the two foreign sides do you think would have added more to the finals, France or the Republic of Ireland? What lessons should be learned from the way in which it will be France that are in this year's tournament finals? These are interesting subjects for debate, not whether or not the French are a bunch of cheats. Before you lot get all high and mighty and xenophobic think about just a few of the English players you've slagged off for diving, fouling, handling, shirt-pulling, wrongly claiming for throw-ins, feigning injury, time-wasting etc.; particularly when they have been playing against Saints.

 

Let's just be a little more adult about this.

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Very well put ..

The French are a 'bunch of cheats'.

 

Really? I thought just one of them handled the ball.

 

Has an English player ever handled a ball deliberately to gain an advantage? Yes, so the English are also a bunch of cheats, and should be excluded from the World cup, right?

 

Would the Irish have won the match if Henry had not handled the ball? Possibly, but more likely no, they wouldn't have.

 

Which of the two foreign sides do you think would have added more to the finals, France or the Republic of Ireland? What lessons should be learned from the way in which it will be France that are in this year's tournament finals? These are interesting subjects for debate, not whether or not the French are a bunch of cheats. Before you lot get all high and mighty and xenophobic think about just a few of the English players you've slagged off for diving, fouling, handling, shirt-pulling, wrongly claiming for throw-ins, feigning injury, time-wasting etc.; particularly when they have been playing against Saints.

 

Let's just be a little more adult about this.

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Not a particularly clever statement to say that you hope your home country "takes out" the country where you play your football and your wages are paid.

 

Not likely to endear him to anyone anyway.

Posted
The French are a 'bunch of cheats'.

 

Really? I thought just one of them handled the ball.

 

Has an English player ever handled a ball deliberately to gain an advantage? Yes, so the English are also a bunch of cheats, and should be excluded from the World cup, right?

 

Ok, let's extend the ban to every team in history that scored the goal that qualified them for the World Cup in extra-time of a two-legged play-off directly from the resultant pass after a deliberate handball.

 

Oh, that's still just France then.

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He's French for gawd's sake. Would anyone be questioning whether it was disrupting Saints morale if Lallana had said he hopes England are drawn against the French and knocked them out?

 

 

It's dressing room banter - the world would be a duller place without it :)

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Not a particularly clever statement to say that you hope your home country "takes out" the country where you play your football and your wages are paid.

 

Not likely to endear him to anyone anyway.

 

Probably a comment said as a joke. Grow up, little Englander.

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Not a particularly clever statement to say that you hope your home country "takes out" the country where you play your football and your wages are paid.

 

Not likely to endear him to anyone anyway.

 

He could of course said that your mother is a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries.

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FFS - He's French and has skippered the national side at various levels - what do you expect him to say?

 

As to Henry - he did what most pros would do (oh and I think it was ball to hand which is another debate) - played to the whistle. Lets be honest when Claus took him out in the cup final he could have gone down ala ronaldo, pires etc etc but he didn't and I will always give him credit for that.

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Ok, let's extend the ban to every team in history that scored the goal that qualified them for the World Cup in extra-time of a two-legged play-off directly from the resultant pass after a deliberate handball.

 

Oh, that's still just France then.

 

Congratulations for totally missing the point I was making.

 

I get far more upset about cheating that affects Saints' games, but accept it as a (albeit regrettable) part of the game. Sh!t happens.

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Not a particularly clever statement to say that you hope your home country "takes out" the country where you play your football and your wages are paid.

 

Not likely to endear him to anyone anyway.

 

It doesn't worry me.

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Still makes me laugh that this French are a bunch of cheats is still going on! Yes it was handball, did he mean to do it..no i dont think so, should the ref / lino have picked it up..yes 100% Its football ffs it happens all the time whether its a handball or a dodgy pen its what makes the game unique.

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I'm still embarrassed by Michael Owen's penalty run.

 

Footballers cheat,it's up to the ref to blow up and book them for it.

If he doesn't because he's a plonker well then alls fair in love,war and football.

Anyway, the French have been victims of at least 2 world cup outrages, worst of all the flying drop kick by Schumacher on Patrick Battiston in the 1982 semi. FIFA owed them for that one, perhaps now it's even Steven again.

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Footballers cheat,it's up to the ref to blow up and book them for it.

If he doesn't because he's a plonker well then alls fair in love,war and football.

Anyway, the French have been victims of at least 2 world cup outrages, worst of all the flying drop kick by Schumacher on Patrick Battiston in the 1982 semi. FIFA owed them for that one, perhaps now it's even Steven again.

 

What a despicible man he was, and probably still is.

 

Shows how the game has moved on; he didn't get sent off for that, in fact I'm not even sure a free-kick was given?

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What a despicible man he was, and probably still is.

 

Shows how the game has moved on; he didn't get sent off for that, in fact I'm not even sure a free-kick was given?

 

 

Nothing whatsoever.It was a straight red even by 1982 standards and a penalty for a foul in the area. Ball doesn't need to be anywhere near for it to be a penalty, it was an assassination attempt. Ref gave f*ck all, just a goal kick. He'd been bought, that can be the only explanation.

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There are 3 French speakers in the club now I would think the banter is hilarious within the team. They all look perfectly happy to me on the pitch which is what matters to me and Eenglish is very much his 2nd language and please God he does have a sense of humour and we should let him show his dedication to S.F.C who pay his wages and let him cheer on his Country as we will ours.

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A Saints player got booked this weekend for a deliberate handball before putting the ball in the net - does that make anyone associated with Saints cheats? I hope not.

As for the quote from MS - just banter I'm sure and likely said with a smile on his face. From recent interviews the guy finally seems to be coming onboard and want to be here. He's also playing pretty well at the moment so please let's not slag off one of our own unless we are absolutely sure it is warranted.

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nothing wrong with what he said at all FFS. He's French of course he wants them to do well and progress further than England. We all want the opposite so what

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Nothing whatsoever.It was a straight red even by 1982 standards and a penalty for a foul in the area. Ball doesn't need to be anywhere near for it to be a penalty, it was an assassination attempt. Ref gave f*ck all, just a goal kick. He'd been bought, that can be the only explanation.

 

One of the most outrageous decisions ever. The ref should have been shot.

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I heard a rumour that Papa Waigo would want Senegal to beat England in an international match, should the two ever bump into each other. I am absolutely beside myself with rage about this.

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Cheating is ingrained in football including appealing for diving, throwins, corners, holding, shirtpulling, handling, etc.

 

It is down to the authorities to empower and instruct referees to clean the game up and put in the rules the use of video replays, goal-line cameras and hawkeye in all national leagues. It isn't going to happen, scapegoat time, Henry to get a cynical ban to make no point at all.

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Cheating is ingrained in football including appealing for diving, throwins, corners, holding, shirtpulling, handling, etc.

 

It is down to the authorities to empower and instruct referees to clean the game up and put in the rules the use of video replays, goal-line cameras and hawkeye in all national leagues. It isn't going to happen, scapegoat time, Henry to get a cynical ban to make no point at all.

 

This will only ever happen when FIFA work out how to make money from goal-line/video technology or that idiot Blatter resigns/retires/dies. They talk a great game on fair play and then do feck all about it.

 

I went to the tennis final last week with hawkeye/referrals and it added to the drama and entertainment. In rugy the video ref adds to the drama, in cricket the run-out cameras add to the drama.

 

Are all these other sports wrong to embrace technology? So you're right, all they will do is punish the odd footballer while 99% walk away scott free...

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Not a particularly clever statement to say that you hope your home country "takes out" the country where you play your football and your wages are paid.

 

Not likely to endear him to anyone anyway.

 

What you expect ' I really hope that England best my home country France where I've grown up, as since I've been playing for Southampton its obviously the most wonderful place in the world I just couldn't think of anyone beating my now beloved England'

 

You are a jerk

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What you expect ' I really hope that England best my home country France where I've grown up, as since I've been playing for Southampton its obviously the most wonderful place in the world I just couldn't think of anyone beating my now beloved England'

 

 

Why did he have to say anything at all about this, seeing as he has a little bit of conflict of interest ?

 

He could also have said "I want an England vs France final with France winning" and no-one would have batted an eyelid.

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Why did he have to say anything at all about this, seeing as he has a little bit of conflict of interest ?

 

He could also have said "I want an England vs France final with France winning" and no-one would have batted an eyelid.

personally...I like it when people actually say what they think

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Ohhhh that Morgan is a naughty, naughty little frenchloving frenchman... I demand that we find new names for french fries and french toast... freedom fr... nah never mind... "cheater taters" and "slimeball sandwich"?

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he was superb in last game.

 

Don't care that he supports the team of his birth and that he has capt.

 

Does anyone ? It just seems an impolitic thing to say, epsecially the way it was phrased and the fact his lifestyle is bankrolled by the English.

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Cheating is ingrained in football including appealing for diving, throwins, corners, holding, shirtpulling, handling, etc.

 

It is down to the authorities to empower and instruct referees to clean the game up and put in the rules the use of video replays, goal-line cameras and hawkeye in all national leagues. It isn't going to happen, scapegoat time, Henry to get a cynical ban to make no point at all.

 

Henry or Le Tissier whats the difference? One tried to further the cause for his country, one tried to line his pocket. Even Antonio tried to get away with a blatant hand ball on Tuesday night but at least got booked for his troubles. However, even the ref can't deal with every underhand practice that goes on in a game and the authorities should not just be empowering the referees IMO.

 

You can't label Henry a cheat and exonerate MLT for his admission. Afterall both were one off events and at least Henry was not hiding anything and both like Maradona were trying to get away with it.

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Henry or Le Tissier whats the difference? One tried to further the cause for his country, one tried to line his pocket. Even Antonio tried to get away with a blatant hand ball on Tuesday night but at least got booked for his troubles. However, even the ref can't deal with every underhand practice that goes on in a game and the authorities should not just be empowering the referees IMO.

 

You can't label Henry a cheat and exonerate MLT for his admission. Afterall both were one off events and at least Henry was not hiding anything and both like Maradona were trying to get away with it.

 

I see that your promise to never mention MLT again lasted about a week .

 

Anyone would think that you were 2 different people the way that your moods swing so violently ;-)

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Does anyone ? It just seems an impolitic thing to say, epsecially the way it was phrased and the fact his lifestyle is bankrolled by the English.

 

Why? You seem happy our midfield is being bolstered by a Frenchman. Do you expect him to suspend his nationality just because he plays for Saints? Free country and he should be allowed to comment as he sees fit even if it does upset the double standards of the precious. What do you suggest Alps, an infraction?

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Henry or Le Tissier whats the difference? One tried to further the cause for his country, one tried to line his pocket. Even Antonio tried to get away with a blatant hand ball on Tuesday night but at least got booked for his troubles. However, even the ref can't deal with every underhand practice that goes on in a game and the authorities should not just be empowering the referees IMO.

 

You can't label Henry a cheat and exonerate MLT for his admission. Afterall both were one off events and at least Henry was not hiding anything and both like Maradona were trying to get away with it.

 

im not labeling either a cheat, Henry, the ball ran down his arm, ref and lino failed to spot it when the whole ground and everyone watching on tv did, not Henrys fault. LeTiss, couldnt have been that bad or he would have been hammered for it now..other than by you of course

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