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John Daly is the exception to the rule.

 

I'm not saying that. You're saying a golfer couldn't play against Millwall.....well could a Saints player play against Lee Westwood? No. The footballer would chop the ball around and be nowhere close to competing with the pro golfer, just as the golfer would jog around and not be able to compete with the football team.

 

God some of you are so ****ing THICK!

 

I beg to differ on the '****ing THICK!' remark, but that's a different debate.

 

A golfer could not play against Millwall, he would not have the physical capabilities to run almost constantly for 90 minutes, let alone do everything else a professional footballer needs to do during a game. I reckon a footballer could go to a golf course, and walk around with Westwood, chatting about things, whilst playing golf together. Granted, Westwood would beat him comfortably, but he would be able to keep up. Not in the sense of keeping up with the score, but he'd be able to physically keep up with Westwood. Which was the debate in the first place.

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I beg to differ on the '****ing THICK!' remark, but that's a different debate.

 

A golfer could not play against Millwall, he would not have the physical capabilities to run almost constantly for 90 minutes, let alone do everything else a professional footballer needs to do during a game. I reckon a footballer could go to a golf course, and walk around with Westwood, chatting about things, whilst playing golf together. Granted, Westwood would beat him comfortably, but he would be able to keep up. Not in the sense of keeping up with the score, but he'd be able to physically keep up with Westwood. Which was the debate in the first place.

 

You're making the most ridiculous and pointless comparison between two sports you could ever imagine. All sports have different needs in terms of physical attributes. What does it matter that a footballer can run for longer?! Are you only an athlete if you can do endurance running?!

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Playing golf is like making love to a beautiful woman,clean your balls,grab your putter firmly with both hands,adress the hole,avoid going into the rough and being careful to avoid all water hazards.

 

A bit of light hearted relief to puncture all this ********

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You're making the most ridiculous and pointless comparison between two sports you could ever imagine. All sports have different needs in terms of physical attributes. What does it matter that a footballer can run for longer?! Are you only an athlete if you can do endurance running?!

 

Hold on a minute.......

 

John Daly is the exception to the rule.

 

I'm not saying that. You're saying a golfer couldn't play against Millwall.....well could a Saints player play against Lee Westwood? No. The footballer would chop the ball around and be nowhere close to competing with the pro golfer, just as the golfer would jog around and not be able to compete with the football team.

 

God some of you are so ****ing THICK!

 

Didn't you just make that comparison too?

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Hold on a minute.......

 

 

 

Didn't you just make that comparison too?

 

No, I was making the comparison that the standard a footballer could compete at golf would be the same standard a golfer could compete at football. Both ****. Athletic ability has nothing to do with it.

 

By the way, Tiger Woods was a long distance runner in college, Ernie Els could have been a professional tennis player....so you don't really know what you're talking about

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No, I was making the comparison that the standard a footballer could compete at golf would be the same standard a golfer could compete at football. Both ****. Athletic ability has nothing to do with it.

 

By the way, Tiger Woods was a long distance runner in college, Ernie Els could have been a professional tennis player....so you don't really know what you're talking about

 

Well I know I'm not talking about track and field and tennis, I'm talking about football!!! You're still making a comparison between football and golf though aren't you!

 

And ok maybe I am still a kid compared to most on here, but I love it.

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Well I know I'm not talking about track and field and tennis, I'm talking about football!!! You're still making a comparison between football and golf though aren't you!

 

And ok maybe I am still a kid compared to most on here, but I love it.

 

You made a ridiculous comparison of the two sports by comparing athletic ability....which is a completely irrelevant point....stop skating round it.

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You made a ridiculous comparison of the two sports by comparing athletic ability....which is a completely irrelevant point....stop skating round it.

 

There's still no way I believe that someone like Lee Westwood has the physical attributes to keep up in 90 minutes of professional football, but if you say so.

 

Skating around points eh, you'd know, I made some fairly good points earlier and you didn't even respond, I was very upset mate.

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There's still no way I believe that someone like Lee Westwood has the physical attributes to keep up in 90 minutes of professional football, but if you say so.

 

Skating around points eh, you'd know, I made some fairly good points earlier and you didn't even respond, I was very upset mate.

 

I'm not saying he does, but he could manage to play 90 minutes in a sunday league game, which is about as high a standard as a pro footballer could compete in comparison to a Lee Westwood

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Golfers have to be fit, because they have to keep their minds fresh for up to 6 hours during a tournament round of golf, sometimes they play in extreme heat, they travel all over the world - much more than a footballer does - they play 6 days a week (including the practice days) plus they have to practice in between. You have no idea what you're talking about.

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I'm not saying he does, but he could manage to play 90 minutes in a sunday league game, which is about as high a standard as a pro footballer could compete in comparison to a Lee Westwood

 

Don't skate around the main point. The whole debate in the first place was about the professional game. Sod Sunday League. I can't even be bothered with this anymore

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Don't skate around the main point. The whole debate in the first place was about the professional game. Sod Sunday League. I can't even be bothered with this anymore

 

The original post that caused this debate was comparing a golfer playing professional football, against a footballer playing "just a round of golf". Which was why it was a **** comparison, and I was making a more equal comparison. Use your ****ing brain and look back at the original post that caused this debate and you'd see that, dumb ass.

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The original post that caused this debate was comparing a golfer playing professional football, against a footballer playing "just a round of golf". Which was why it was a **** comparison, and I was making a more equal comparison. Use your ****ing brain and look back at the original post that caused this debate and you'd see that, dumb ass.

 

Ok, ok, no need to get so riled about it. I still stick by my point about the comparison between two professional games. You can raise the levels of each side as much as you like to bend the argument your way, but I won't change my view that 90 minutes of professional football and the training is more demanding than a few days walking round a golf course professionally. Can we argue about something else now please?

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Ok, ok, no need to get so riled about it. I still stick by my point about the comparison between two professional games. You can raise the levels of each side as much as you like to bend the argument your way, but I won't change my view that 90 minutes of professional football and the training is more demanding than a few days walking round a golf course professionally. Can we argue about something else now please?

 

Firstly, footballers do half a day's work and then relax all afternoon.

 

Golfers are at it ALL DAY. Footballers have to run around a lot, but golfers have to travel to a different part of the world every week, going through different time zones....if you've travelled extensively you'd know that's not easy - being fit makes it easier. Footballers very rarely play in 40 degrees heat with humidity on top of that....you see some heat in the world cup sometimes, and you see how the players struggle. Then they get 2 or 3 days off. Golfers play 6 days in a row, including practice days, then they jet off and play another 6 days in a row, in extreme heat on occasion.

 

You're looking at it in a very simple way...golfers walk, footballers run. How intellectual.

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Firstly, footballers do half a day's work and then relax all afternoon.

 

Golfers are at it ALL DAY. Footballers have to run around a lot, but golfers have to travel to a different part of the world every week, going through different time zones....if you've travelled extensively you'd know that's not easy - being fit makes it easier. Footballers very rarely play in 40 degrees heat with humidity on top of that....you see some heat in the world cup sometimes, and you see how the players struggle. Then they get 2 or 3 days off. Golfers play 6 days in a row, including practice days, then they jet off and play another 6 days in a row, in extreme heat on occasion.

 

You're looking at it in a very simple way...golfers walk, footballers run. How intellectual.

 

Pleeeasse can we give it a resttttt now Willll.

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Firstly, footballers do half a day's work and then relax all afternoon.

 

Golfers are at it ALL DAY. Footballers have to run around a lot, but golfers have to travel to a different part of the world every week, going through different time zones....if you've travelled extensively you'd know that's not easy - being fit makes it easier. Footballers very rarely play in 40 degrees heat with humidity on top of that....you see some heat in the world cup sometimes, and you see how the players struggle. Then they get 2 or 3 days off. Golfers play 6 days in a row, including practice days, then they jet off and play another 6 days in a row, in extreme heat on occasion.

 

You're looking at it in a very simple way...golfers walk, footballers run. How intellectual.

 

Yes, I agree with this. Golfers play all day. I'm not a golfer myself, but I can imagine how hard it must be to walk at leisure around a reasonably flat green area, hittig a ball with a stick. They must be exhausted by the end of it. I also agree that sitting on a plane must be tough and can see why they have to be so fit. It really isn't easy flying from one place to another. As for the playing in the heat, again, very tricky, especially when you're walking about the course trying to hit that little ball. That is another relevant point.....the ball a footaller uses is much larger than the ball a golfer uses. It must be much harder on the golfers eyes to see the tiny ball they use (in comparison to the football).

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Yes, I agree with this. Golfers play all day. I'm not a golfer myself, but I can imagine how hard it must be to walk at leisure around a reasonably flat green area, hittig a ball with a stick. They must be exhausted by the end of it. I also agree that sitting on a plane must be tough and can see why they have to be so fit. It really isn't easy flying from one place to another. As for the playing in the heat, again, very tricky, especially when you're walking about the course trying to hit that little ball. That is another relevant point.....the ball a footaller uses is much larger than the ball a golfer uses. It must be much harder on the golfers eyes to see the tiny ball they use (in comparison to the football).

 

You've forgotten the toughest work-out of all - ordering your caddy to give you the right stick.

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Yes, I agree with this. Golfers play all day. I'm not a golfer myself, but I can imagine how hard it must be to walk at leisure around a reasonably flat green area, hittig a ball with a stick. They must be exhausted by the end of it. I also agree that sitting on a plane must be tough and can see why they have to be so fit. It really isn't easy flying from one place to another. As for the playing in the heat, again, very tricky, especially when you're walking about the course trying to hit that little ball. That is another relevant point.....the ball a footaller uses is much larger than the ball a golfer uses. It must be much harder on the golfers eyes to see the tiny ball they use (in comparison to the football).

 

very funny.

 

you've obviously never travelled from Hong Kong to Dubai, to California and then back to Asia again. It's not the "sitting on a plane", it's the time zones, the jet lag, the lack of sleep. It is a well known fact that if you're fitter, you can recover from jet lag quicker.

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very funny.

 

you've obviously never travelled from Hong Kong to Dubai, to California and then back to Asia again. It's not the "sitting on a plane", it's the time zones, the jet lag, the lack of sleep. It is a well known fact that if you're fitter, you can recover from jet lag quicker.

 

 

As a matter of fact I have done this. I went from the UK to Australia to Hong Kong to Dubai to Paris to California and then to Thailand. I did that in the space of 5 days. By the end of it I was exhausted, I know how tough plane travel is. In fact, I was so shattered that all I could do after was play golf.

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As a matter of fact I have done this. I went from the UK to Australia to Hong Kong to Dubai to Paris to California and then to Thailand. I did that in the space of 5 days. By the end of it I was exhausted, I know how tough plane travel is. In fact, I was so shattered that all I could do after was play golf.

 

Idiot

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As a matter of fact I have done this. I went from the UK to Australia to Hong Kong to Dubai to Paris to California and then to Thailand. I did that in the space of 5 days. By the end of it I was exhausted, I know how tough plane travel is. In fact, I was so shattered that all I could do after was play golf.

 

:lol:

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As a matter of fact I have done this. I went from the UK to Australia to Hong Kong to Dubai to Paris to California and then to Thailand. I did that in the space of 5 days. By the end of it I was exhausted, I know how tough plane travel is. In fact, I was so shattered that all I could do after was play golf.

 

And on that brilliant note, its goodnight from me and hopefully it's goodnight from St Will who is trying to work out how to insert practice days in 6 days of practice day and tournaments - good luck with that.

 

26 and still not on the European tour, don't worry about it you'll soon be old enough to take up bowls, assuming you still like your outdoor sports fully trousered.

 

Will are you based at Basingtoke Colf Club, The Peter Alliss designed Dummer or Test Valley club that Jody Scheckter could put to better use as buffalo grazing? Afterall it's just another fat bunch of males hacking at the grass pretending to be sporty - unlike the buffalos.

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here's you!!

 

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I've got a few issues with this "anatomy". It just seems a wee bit out-dated. Not like 19C's opinion of golf, but more in a "well isn't everyone like that" kinda way.

 

Lets start analysing the diagram in a clockwise direction. Firstly, what has poor eyesight got to do with being a geek? A lot of people of that man's age need glasses. I wear them. Does that make me a geek? My 102 year old grandmother needs them...does that make her a geek? Ozzy Osborn wears them. Does that make him a geek?

 

I'm not sure what a perl shirt is? I'm assuming it means polo shirt? I wear lots of polo shirts. My girlfriend wears them every now and again in bed. Real geeks can't brag about this sort of stuff.

 

My (and probably most other people's) image of a sterotypical geek is of a scrawny little kid with about a 28'' waist. Fat people can't be geeks. It's just kind of wrong. Ask Jill.

 

I have a watch. I helps me to tell the time and is particuarly useful when travelling between differnt time zones, which I do about 3 times a week as part of my profession as a professional scrabble player.

 

Pants? Does this mean pants? Or trousers? It is my understanding that english geeks like to use american terminology for stuff like this. If it does mean pants though, surely every has a good pair? You know (possibly) for those special occasions :smt008

 

My 102 year old grandmother has a cat, as do 13 million other Britons according to 2001 cencus data.

 

 

A cell phone? Is this something prisoners use? Geeks don't go to prison. And a lot of those who do have mobile phones.

 

Multiple computers? Hello! Welcome to the 21st century buddy. Tiger Woods has about 9 in his house (that'll be closer to about 4 and a half in a few weeks though I expect).

 

Toy Story! One of the most popular animated films of all time. My nephew has lots of toy story toys. Perhaps this guy is just a nice family man. There's nothing wrong, or geeky, about that!

 

I have a messy desk. I just can't be arsed to clean it. People think best (geeks do a lot of thinking) in a clean and tidy environment. Why would a geek be messy for?

 

Is it geeky to like beer? Pro golfers drink tons of the stuff on the job!

 

Is it now a crime to have crockery in your house? Perhaps he likes popcorn. I like popcorn, am I a geek? The tramp who lives outside the cinema in Portsmouth likes popcorn (well he eats it anyway), is he a geek? I saw a rat eating some old popcorn once. Is the rat a geek?

 

Cordless phone? These days we just call them phones. I have 3 of them in my house.

 

What is a server room? Is that like a wireless router? Surely in this day an age a lot of people have them?

 

I can't even see a library of computer books in the photo? And again, what is a computer book? Is it just like a book? Some people like reading books. They can help them pass the time, fill them with knowledge or even be used as bog roll in emergencies.

 

And finally, why is everyone using the term "geek" as a derogatory term? I'd love to be a geek.

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Not taking sides here (I like being crap at golf and do consider it a healthy pastime) but dies any other sport have an equivalent of these things?

 

 

 

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I have seen them on football pitvches at major tournaments but they are only brought out for injured players, makes you think doesn't it?

 

 

Re the travelling around the world i would argue that it's not that tough when you even get to ride on one of these beauties too...which in my experience are the domain of A list celebs and the infirm....

 

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....and pro golfers

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I like golf and it is very demanding.

 

Especially at my level. I have to carry my own clubs and I tend not to walk straight down the middle of the fairways but from side to side making each round the equivalent of about a 30 mile walk. Plus 150 odd shots plus practice swings.

 

I'm always knackered , then I start the second 9.

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