Saint_clark Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 Are you going through rehab or something ? I have no idea how that can constitute a reply to what was a fair post with a couple of good points. Unless of course, you have no argument and have been proven wrong.
St Will Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 Come on Alps, give us another! How about telling us how lucky Spurs were to get all 3 points against Wigan last week? lol
Smirking_Saint Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 What a load of wishy-washy codswallop. Finishing and putting the ball in the net is an integral part of the game, not some sort of f**king garnish. You win a game by scoring GOALS, not by playing loads of tippy-tappy posession. Not really, the fact that you said made us look like chimps, in my mind and clearly every one elses that came across as them battering us. Perhaps if you didn't type wishy washy b*llocks we could all understand what you mean better ?? Yeah of course you win games by scoring goals, but even the very best get unlucky at time to time. Try looking at football over the course of a season mate, if you are in control of possession, have more shots on, more corners etc, then you will win a damn site more than you lose. Christ, teams nick wins all the time, it happens, get over this complex you have.
St Will Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 I have no idea how that can constitute a reply to what was a fair post with a couple of good points. Unless of course, you have no argument and have been proven wrong. I think what Alpine said is bordering on infraction worthy. Think he needs a few to be fair.
St Will Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 Not really, the fact that you said made us look like chimps, in my mind and clearly every one elses that came across as them battering us. Perhaps if you didn't type wishy washy b*llocks we could all understand what you mean better ?? Yeah of course you win games by scoring goals, but even the very best get unlucky at time to time. Try looking at football over the course of a season mate, if you are in control of possession, have more shots on, more corners etc, then you will win a damn site more than you lose. Christ, teams nick wins all the time, it happens, get over this complex you have. Agreed
alpine_saint Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 I have no idea how that can constitute a reply to what was a fair post with a couple of good points. Unless of course, you have no argument and have been proven wrong. Well come on, FFS. Calling a rectial of some results a "fantastic" thread is laying it on a bit thick...
Saint_clark Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 Well come on, FFS. Calling a rectial of some results a "fantastic" thread is laying it on a bit thick... Not for you maybe, but for those of us who enjoy the fact we've won loads of games it sure is a fantastic thread. (9 out of the last 12, FWIW).
St Will Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 Not for you maybe, but for those of us who enjoy the fact we've won loads of games it sure is a fantastic thread. (9 out of the last 12, FWIW). winning 9 out of every 12 games from the start of the season and starting from 0, we would win the league easily. I can't see how anyone can not be happy with that form.
Torres Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 Not for you maybe, but for those of us who enjoy the fact we've won loads of games it sure is a fantastic thread. (9 out of the last 12, FWIW). It's my favourite thread by far and seeing that list of results gives me a little smile every time I read it. Good stuff.
benjii Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 What a load of wishy-washy codswallop. Finishing and putting the ball in the net is an integral part of the game, not some sort of f**king garnish. You win a game by scoring GOALS, not by playing loads of tippy-tappy posession. That may well be true but has absolutely no relevance to your claim that they "worked us out" tactically.
benjii Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 I also lol at the fact you seem to think we still play "tippy-tappy" whatever that means. Shows how much insight into our matches you actually do have (which isn't surprising, all things considered it just makes it all the more annoying when you assert things that you have no knowledge of).
Genk Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 Orient made chimps out of us for a large portion of that game. Deal with it, happy-clappers. How? We had 6 or 7 clear chances which somehow we missed. Shooting wise we had an off day, but we completely battered them in the second half. We just started off the match slowly.
Pilchards Posted 30 November, 2009 Author Posted 30 November, 2009 How do we play the 4-4-2 system anyone? Does Lambo and Connelly hit the flanks or do they hold up the ball in the centre to the overlappers?
eelpie Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 Does anyone know if there is a website for managers that specializes in briefing them on tactics discussions on rival clubs' forums, lol?
Saint_clark Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 How do we play the 4-4-2 system anyone? Does Lambo and Connelly hit the flanks or do they hold up the ball in the centre to the overlappers? It's still more of a 4-5-1, either Connolly or Lambert drop deep, Connolly to pick the ball up and play it out to the wings or Lambert to do the same but also can flick it on for Connolly to run on to.
up and away Posted 30 November, 2009 Posted 30 November, 2009 Originally Posted by Pilchards I watched closely the way we played on Saturday and it reminded me of the very first training session AP did at Saints. He wants the ball down the flanks into open space where Lallana or Papa would either beat there man to cross/square it for the on rushing midfielders or they cut the ball back for Harding/Murty to either cross it in, Sometimes they play it inside the centre to Hammond or Morgan if they have not made a run. That's our only style which operates only on a 4-5-1 formation. Did Brighton suss us out or something? Discuss please as I love in depth footy talk. I got roasted on here by daring to suggest Orient managed to do the same thing.... I would say right to a certain extent, as the problem appeared the same in both games. Never attended Orient but according to all the reports, Hammond had a bad day after putting in so many great performances in midfield. Very simple, if we don't have control of the midfield, it's pot luck what the result will be. Against Brighton the problem was exactly the same but the way we set up exposed that weakness. Whether it was an inherent weakness of the players and the system or Brighton is not totally clear, but Brighton certainly filled their boots on what we gave them. Again same against Norwich, when you have players walking through midfield without issue it is going to have consequences. I can understand why Pardew wants to get 442 to work because it means we have the best of the talent on the field. But if that means losing control of midfield everything then falls apart. The forwards cannot get the supply, or the defence is left exposed, or a combination of both. Find that person who can go alongside Hammond in midfield and I can easily see 442 being better, but until you reach that point 451 has to be the way to go for the first half at least. James may well be able to provide that answer but I have concerns about his ability of when to stay and when to go. I do think Gillet can do a job there as described by the Doncaster fans, because that is exactly what he is doing a level higher and against far better opposition. He has played every game for Doncaster, getting subbed in the first few until his fitness came back but is now doing what he should be for us, criminal.
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