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RedAndWhite91

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The squad AP took over was top 6 easy peasy.

 

Dont want to hear another word on it - closed.

 

Our squad against Millwall, first game of the season:

 

Davis, Murty, Thomas, Perry, Harding, James, Wotton, Schneiderlin, Lallana, Paterson, Saganowski.

 

Compared to our squad against Hartlepool, our most recent league game:

 

Davis, Murty, Jaidi, Trotman, Harding, James, Hammond, Schneiderlin, Lallana, Lambert, Connolly.

 

Now, I'm sitting on the fence in this debate, but I believe our squad now is a lot better and stronger than it was at the start of the season, with additions such as Lambert, Hammond, Jaidi, Connolly, etc. If you genuinely believe our squad at the start of the season is top six material, then that surely points to the idea that our squad now should gain automatic promotion.

 

I know that's unlikely because of our minus 10, and I believe that next season we will definitely be serious contenders for the title. I guess the point I'm making, although I have digressed, is that our squad now is a lot better than the squad we had at the start of the season, so should we be able to get an automatic spot this season?

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Glasgow_Saint

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Our squad against Millwall, first game of the season:

 

Davis, Murty, Thomas, Perry, Harding, James, Wotton, Schneiderlin, Lallana, Paterson, Saganowski.

 

Compared to our squad against Hartlepool, our most recent league game:

 

Davis, Murty, Jaidi, Trotman, Harding, James, Hammond, Schneiderlin, Lallana, Lambert, Connolly.

 

Now, I'm sitting on the fence in this debate, but I believe our squad now is a lot better and stronger than it was at the start of the season, with additions such as Lambert, Hammond, Jaidi, Connolly, etc. If you genuinely believe our squad at the start of the season is top six material, then that surely points to the idea that our squad now should gain automatic promotion.

 

I know that's unlikely because of our minus 10, and I believe that next season we will definitely be serious contenders for the title. I guess the point I'm making, although I have digressed, is that our squad now is a lot better than the squad we had at the start of the season, so should we be able to get an automatic spot this season?

 

Good post!

 

Team AP inherited was top 6 no problemo!

 

Team we have now is top 2!

 

Agree we wont be top 2 this season (because of the poor start and -10) but we should be next season - if we dont sneak the playoffs this year.

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Micky

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can you explain?

 

Yeah - the expectation seems to be promotion next season or bust. Probably the same expectation that Leeds fans had when they arrived in League 1. What will this board be like if that does not happen - total meltdown?

 

We have a very rich owner - apparently puts us on par with Man City. Are we assuming that our very rich owner has given our Chairman a bottomless pit of money and said use what you want?

 

We may be running on a budget similar to other L1 sides - who knows? As with all things in life - money helps - but it guarantees nothing, look at eerrrr Manchester City.

 

We may well have a five year plan - but what if things go slightly off track in year 2, will the fans do (as Man City fans did) and stay with the management and players - I wonder?

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Yeah - the expectation seems to be promotion next season or bust. Probably the same expectation that Leeds fans had when they arrived in League 1. What will this board be like if that does not happen - total meltdown?

 

We have a very rich owner - apparently puts us on par with Man City. Are we assuming that our very rich owner has given our Chairman a bottomless pit of money and said use what you want?

 

We may be running on a budget similar to other L1 sides - who knows? As with all things in life - money helps - but it guarantees nothing, look at eerrrr Manchester City.

 

We may well have a five year plan - but what if things go slightly off track in year 2, will the fans do (as Man City fans did) and stay with the management and players - I wonder?

 

The answer is no. If we don't do well next season, there will be a lot of people who will want change in the management for sure.

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Glasgow_Saint

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Yeah - the expectation seems to be promotion next season or bust. Probably the same expectation that Leeds fans had when they arrived in League 1. What will this board be like if that does not happen - total meltdown?

 

We have a very rich owner - apparently puts us on par with Man City. Are we assuming that our very rich owner has given our Chairman a bottomless pit of money and said use what you want?

 

We may be running on a budget similar to other L1 sides - who knows? As with all things in life - money helps - but it guarantees nothing, look at eerrrr Manchester City.

 

We may well have a five year plan - but what if things go slightly off track in year 2, will the fans do (as Man City fans did) and stay with the management and players - I wonder?

 

AP will be sacked if he fails to get us promoted next season.

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Window Cleaner

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If the team AP inherited was top 6 then how come they had a poor start?

 

I don't know exactly why but Glasgow doesn't seem to be a fan of AP.

Obviously the team wasn't top 6,still isn't because of the diabolical defence we had and to some extent still have.Still don't let that get in the way of a bit of AP bashing.

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krissyboy31

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I don't know exactly why but Glasgow doesn't seem to be a fan of AP.

Obviously the team wasn't top 6,still isn't because of the diabolical defence we had and to some extent still have.Still don't let that get in the way of a bit of AP bashing.

 

He also failed to notice that Murty and Harding were in the Millwall game, nether of which were inherited by AP. I'd be much more worried about our finishing position if we didn't have AP, his coaching staff and the players he recruited.

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Andy_Porter

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Team AP inherited was top 6 no problemo!

 

 

Madness.

 

The defence lacked any sort of cover, we would be relying on Lancashire (useless), Perry (old) and Thomas (injury ridden) as our only centre backs. They aren't very good as it, we'd have shipped goals in every game.

 

Paterson is too young to be relied on and Saganowski doesn't want to be here, even if he did he's still pretty poor. There was again no real cover, we simply wouldn't score anywhere near enough goals.

 

The midfield is ok but we would have lacked a driving force without Hammond and no real pace without Waigo or Antonio. We would be relying on youngsters and it would be just like last season.

 

There are some very good sides in this league, our team now is very competetive, the team we had at the start of the season that played Millwall, Huddersfield, Swindon etc would have been in a relegation battle. They where that poor, it's good at Pardew has sorted it out quite quickly.

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Micky

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Madness.

 

The defence lacked any sort of cover, we would be relying on Lancashire (useless), Perry (old) and Thomas (injury ridden) as our only centre backs. They aren't very good as it, we'd have shipped goals in every game.

 

Paterson is too young to be relied on and Saganowski doesn't want to be here, even if he did he's still pretty poor. There was again no real cover, we simply wouldn't score anywhere near enough goals.

 

The midfield is ok but we would have lacked a driving force without Hammond and no real pace without Waigo or Antonio. We would be relying on youngsters and it would be just like last season.

 

There are some very good sides in this league, our team now is very competetive, the team we had at the start of the season that played Millwall, Huddersfield, Swindon etc would have been in a relegation battle. They where that poor, it's good at Pardew has sorted it out quite quickly.

 

Exactly my thoughts - again, I think that some are on a complete wind up or that this thread is meant to be in the 'Comedy Gold' section.

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Glasgow_Saint

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This thread was to discuss 'are we the new Man City' The delldays went to alot of trouble to start this thread and id ask you all to respect his efforts and remain on topic.

 

The thread has digressed and we now seem to have a 'was the original team AP inherited top 8 material'

 

Well.....to allow us all to get back on topic, I have taken time to read all posts on this thread and collected results.

 

 

'was the original team AP inherited top 8 material'

 

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Can we please move on now!

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Our spending should also include a huge (for div 1) wage bill. I remember MW saying that Thomas was "too expensive" for this div in the summer. The day before he left in fact. Add two experienced managers as assistants, the scouting system (which implies more signings) and the rest and we can assume we are big spenders. Remember many of the other clubs (eg Norwich) sold as well. Look at their net spending. We have made very little on sales post takeover (which is the period in question).

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Smirking_Saint

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AP has bought in 10 players already - could soon be 12.

 

Nobody in L1 can compete - I do worry that AP resorts to signing players rather than working with what he has, but hey ho.

 

Really ??

 

There are players here that are just not good enough.

 

The majority of 'better' players from last year, and yes i say better lightly have moved on, we needed drastic improvements, we got better players in.

 

Now it would be nice to see a few more faces, the squad needs spicing up, there are players that just are not good enough.

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Saint_clark

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AP has bought in 10 players already - could soon be 12.

 

Nobody in L1 can compete - I do worry that AP resorts to signing players rather than working with what he has, but hey ho.

 

Yes, Pardew should get us promoted and promoted and into da championz league with Molyneaux, Lancashire, Holmes, Pulis etc.

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Glasgow_Saint

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Really ??

 

There are players here that are just not good enough.

 

The majority of 'better' players from last year, and yes i say better lightly have moved on, we needed drastic improvements, we got better players in.

 

Now it would be nice to see a few more faces, the squad needs spicing up, there are players that just are not good enough.

 

Please remember that we are in L1! AP has inherited some crap but also some really good L1 players, on top of that he has bought in 10 players of his own.

 

10 players in + Davis, Bart, Lallana, Thomas, Perry, Wotton, Spiderman, Saga, Holmes, Gillet, James ect ect

 

That should be enough for L1 surely!?

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Please remember that we are in L1! AP has inherited some crap but also some really good L1 players, on top of that he has bought in 10 players of his own.

 

10 players in + Davis, Bart, Thomas, Perry, Wotton, Spiderman, Saga, Holmes, Gillet, James ect ect

 

That should be enough for L1 surely!?

 

I understand that we are a league 1 team yes, but they are just not good enough. Wotton is shocking, Gillet is obviously not liked by pards (although doing a job in CCC) and James is having a mixed bag.

 

We still need atleast a CB, a RB and a new CM, could do with another striker as well.

 

We have IMO a good enough team to atleast make the playoffs yes but i would not moan at better players, as long as they are 'better' than we have already, this could be the difference and should also give us a good start in the CCC when we get there.

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Glasgow_Saint

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I understand that we are a league 1 team yes, but they are just not good enough. Wotton is shocking, Gillet is obviously not liked by pards (although doing a job in CCC) and James is having a mixed bag.

 

We still need atleast a CB, a RB and a new CM, could do with another striker as well.

 

We have IMO a good enough team to atleast make the playoffs yes but i would not moan at better players, as long as they are 'better' than we have already, this could be the difference and should also give us a good start in the CCC when we get there.

 

Dont get me wrong its great if we can sign some good players - exciting!

 

I wont grumble if we sign some real talent - just surprised AP hasnt managed to do more with the squad he already has.

 

Perhaps the performances last 5 games is just a blip.

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It's not all about the players.

 

You have to play with heart, tactics and guile. All things that the team last year (and for previous seasons) lacked. Pardew has started to instil this, but it's not something that comes over night. Players brought in should support this endeavour - on their own they're irrelevant.

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Saint_clark

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our squad as it stands is good enough for about 4th or 5th place....which is about right as that is where we would be without the -10..

 

we obviously want to be good enough for top two...

 

Exactly, and the back-up we have right now are not good enough - so we are looking to strengthen.

I'm not sure whether Glasgow is just on a wind up or not...

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our squad as it stands is good enough for about 4th or 5th place....which is about right as that is where we would be without the -10..

 

we obviously want to be good enough for top two...

 

I think if we had the current squad from the off, with a pre-season behind them they would be up there with Norwich and Charlton.

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Thedelldays

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1.2 million spent on Fonte

1.2 million spent on Lambert

1.5 million bid for Brian Stock

+ more to come

 

__________________________

 

= Yes WE are Man City of L1

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dont forget hammond...and the wage bill

 

sagga

papa

thomas

kelvin

lallana

connolly

 

all will be on HUGE league 1 wages,,,

 

good times

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