Premier League sides,Lallana.

[Arizona]

What are you talking about - do you know that Markus is a Billionaire?

 

Just chuck Adam 5 or 6 million (say "theres more where that came from") as a little gesture and this will make him happy.

 

5 or 6 million is nothing for Markus - its like £2.50 to me and you!

 

This:

 

People don't become billionaires with an attitude to money like that.

 

I also doubt Markus has billions in his piggy bank or down the back of the sofa. A lot of it is probably tucked away in stocks, shares, property, assets etc.

 

It was stated when he took over that he would run Saints and I applaud that. He is trying to build a sustainable future and will not tollerate Saints making big losses. If you take care of the business, the rest should take care of itself.

 

Pompey were owned by a billionaire (probably more than one), but they soon freaked when they started p*ssing £30m a year up the wall in losses and fled town.

[Legod Third Coming]

Have any of these people who think Adam will go to Middlesborough actually been there?

 

I would rather work for nothing in Southampton than a 100k a week in Middlesborough.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Adam Lallana will be ready for the Premier League long before this football club is - a case of differing trajectories I'm afraid . Not only would it be wrong to hold him back it would be impossible even if we foolish enough to try .

 

I expect him to leave next for the EPL next summer - for something like £5m maybe £7m .

Edited 25 November, 2009 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE

[Glasgow_Saint]

Have any of these people who think Adam will go to Middlesborough actually been there?

 

I would rather work for nothing in Southampton than a 100k a week in Middlesborough.

 

southern ignorance - wise up

[Bailey]

If Adam wants to go, he will go, and for a hefty price too I'd imagine! We've never been in a position before where we can demand a big fee for one of our players, so I'd be interested to see how much the club value him at should a Premier League team come sniffing in January.

 

Anyway, I'm under the impression that Lallana is very happy plying his trade at Saints, and it's clear for all to see that Pardew is getting the best out of him. He knows that, at this stage of his career, he's in the best possible place, and I don't worry about about him leaving during the next transfer window at all.

[Matthew Le God]

We've never been in a position before where we can demand a big fee for one of our players

 

Bale £10m?

Walcott £12m?

Bridge £7m?

Crouch £7m?

Jones £6m?

 

etc etc

[Arizona]

southern ignorance - wise up

 

Nope, nothern sh*thole. Wrong again I'm afraid.

 

Adam Lallana will be ready for the Premier League long before this football club is - a case of differing trajectories I'm afraid . Not only would it be wrong to hold him back it would be impossible even if we foolish enough to try .

 

I expect him to leave next for the EPL next summer - for something like £5m maybe £7m .

 

Think we may be getting slightly carried away here. Lallana is finally showing his true potential having only seen glimpses of it last season.

 

As Delph has shown, being the brightest star in L1 doesn't nescessarily mean you're up to Prem standards. Delph has started just one league game since being subbed off after an hour of his debut. Villa incidentally lost both games.

 

I think it would be better for him if after a season or two here he went to one of the CCC big boys. Leicester would be great for him as Pearson seemed to rate him and they are heading in the right direction.

 

Alternatively, he could do worse than staying here. Promotion this season will be an uphill struggle, but it's easily within next season's capabilities. Beyond that, I think we have 5 or 6 players already capable of a promotion push in CCC.

 

And finally... Seeing Lallana and Schneiderlin progress this year makes me wonder what might have been for some of last years players. I know 'ifs' and 'buts' etc but I can't help but wonder how good players like DMG, Surman and Skacel would have been in our current set up. I know they all wanted out it's just a hypothetical situation.

[Legod Third Coming]

southern ignorance - wise up

 

Wise up??? My friend I have travelled this globe of ours and if there is a bigger sh!thole I have yet to see it. And I have been to Calcutta...

[dubai_phil]

Adam enjoys his nights out in Bournemouth still.

 

He is no doubt aware that he is still learning.

 

He knows that only 3 months ago he was being branded qa liability by his own fans (including many on here)

 

He will also know that he is not ready to play PL football every week.

 

He will also have people around him who know just how good he could eventually become.

 

If it is simply about money then he will go in January.

 

If it is about ambition then he will know that he will continue to improve and his options in the summer will be better than they will be in January.

 

IF we sneak up in the playoffs he may still until January '11 to prove he is capable of playing for a top half team rather than a scraping by team.

 

But January, I think he'd be very unwise and as for Boro, how could he go clubbing in Bournemouth on a Saturday night where he is "The Man" you ever been on a night out up there as a southerner?

 

Hmm oop north it is then

[RedAndWhite91]

I see on the Saints OS he says that at the start of the season he aimed for double figures, and now he has 11, he is aiming for 15 goals. He said he'd just take it game by game but is enjoying banging them in. He can't bang them in for Saints if he's not playing for us, can he. He also commented on how excellent the fans were up in Hartlepool

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10280~1885387,00.html

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

 

Think we may be getting slightly carried away here. Lallana is finally showing his true potential having only seen glimpses of it last season.

 

As Delph has shown, being the brightest star in L1 doesn't nescessarily mean you're up to Prem standards. Delph has started just one league game since being subbed off after an hour of his debut. Villa incidentally lost both games.

 

I think it would be better for him if after a season or two here he went to one of the CCC big boys. Leicester would be great for him as Pearson seemed to rate him and they are heading in the right direction.

 

 

Don't get me wrong , for obvious selfish reasons I'd like him to see Adam stay and staying here a little longer wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea , but football careers are short and Lallana's no teenager anymore .

'Seize the day' as they say , I see little point in a intermediate step between here and the Premier League and considering he'll be 22 years old next summer that seems just about the right age to make the step up - at least that's what I'd advise him if I had his ear .

 

This lads ability with a football is there for all to see , the only thing that could hold him back in my view is a (arguable) lack of strength and stamina . This player would be well advised to follow Jermaine Defoe's excellent example and spend more time in the gym working on weight training in particular - put some extra bulk and muscle on that modest frame of his and he could almost be as good as he wants to be .

[Gemmel]

Is there such a thing ESB as a decent agent? Are they any different to estate agents or insurance agents etc? If the golden handcuffs from some big gun come riding into town Adam Lallana will be leaving on the first stage. Footballers have to maximise their income and their agents can't afford to let the odd golden egg to go uncashed in amongst all the dross.

 

The only way AL will stay at this club, if a big move is offered, will be through his own determined self will IMO. Personally, I think he should go if for no other reason that at the moement for every game like yesterday's he can throw in a stinker like the Brighton game that i was hoping would put a few lazy scouts off tbh - at least until the end of the season.

 

If his head is turned and he doesn't go he could end up like Bale in the second half of the season who if I remember had a less than good last 4 months with us after his name was linked to Premiership clubs. Surman as well was never the same after his England call up although that IMO was alot to do with Nigel Pearson dropping him then asking him to play at LB.

 

It's not the agent that needs to be good it's his family and those he confides in that need to be very tight and supportive. If they all start seeing £ signs then he is finished as a Saints player I'm sad to say. Patience and loyalty in football are not exactly common as they once were on both sides of the white line.

 

Serious question (And it's not loaded)

 

What would you be advising Adam if you were his Dad?

 

Ive raved about him, pretty much since the first game i saw him in and the lad is destined for an England cap and one of the big teams (I'm certain) So let's say in January a half way house comes along, say an Everton or Fulham or a Spurs comes knocking. Ive no idea what sort of money he is on now, but given his age, he would be looking at a four year contract at say 30k a week - He's made for life.

If a Dad can advise his son on something that sets him up for life (Like Theo) As much as I love Saints, it would be very hard to advise on anything but a move.

I hope I am wrong, I love watching him for Saints, but not sure your good family analogy is the right one.

[saint_stevo]

if we dont get promoted? If!?

[.comsaint]

Wise up??? My friend I have travelled this globe of ours and if there is a bigger sh!thole I have yet to see it. And I have been to Calcutta...

 

Ah - but have you ever seen such magical delights as a city with areas as delightful as Stamshaw, Buckland, Somerstown, Paulsgrove or (F)leigh Park?

[Nineteen Canteen]

Serious question (And it's not loaded)

 

What would you be advising Adam if you were his Dad?

 

Ive raved about him, pretty much since the first game i saw him in and the lad is destined for an England cap and one of the big teams (I'm certain) So let's say in January a half way house comes along, say an Everton or Fulham or a Spurs comes knocking. Ive no idea what sort of money he is on now, but given his age, he would be looking at a four year contract at say 30k a week - He's made for life.

If a Dad can advise his son on something that sets him up for life (Like Theo) As much as I love Saints, it would be very hard to advise on anything but a move.

I hope I am wrong, I love watching him for Saints, but not sure your good family analogy is the right one.

 

Gemmel, I agree with you 100% in your analogy but I was specifically referring to ESB's comment that he hopes AL has a decent agent who will look after his interests. I'm not so sure they all do and the cut that they can benefit from is no different than any salesman they want to cut a deal. In the event it is not as good as you outline be it money,club,potential or all 3 then I feel his family and friends would have to be supportive and help him resist a deal that maybe detrimental to what maybe on offer in the future given his undoubted but still a bit inconsistent talent.

 

I am sure clubs that really want him will also realise that he may take a while to acclimatise to the top level and will need to play football competitively week in week out. So I would be recommending in your scenario dependent on the offer and the buying club's need i.e. the Walcott route or straight into the first team. If the former could it not be possible to buy an option to have first refusal on the player in say 6 to 12 months time or buy the player outright and then loan the player back for an agreed period.

 

Walcott suffered IMO from going to Arsenal too early in football playing terms if not monetary and an option to buy or loan back for say 12 months would have kept everybody happy and secure. Walcott is very injury prone is that because at 16 he was wrapped up cotton wool to much instead of playing whilst his growing body got more used to the the inevitable knocks and at a time when injuries can heal themselves that much quicker? I have zero expertise in this regard and its just a theory that young players if they are ready are actually better off playing more regularly and in AL's case I think he should have been a regular in our penultimate season in the Championship.

[Thedelldays]

How anyone can say Walcott went too early to arsenal and it went against him is clearly deluded

[Give it to Ron]

How anyone can say Walcott went too early to arsenal and it went against him is clearly deluded

 

Yep must of been abysmal training and getting an apprenticeship from one of the best footballers in the world at that time Thierry Henry.

He has been unlucky with injuries....that doesn't mean he hasn't learnt anything watching, training and being coached by some of the best.

Afterall he could of turned down the chance of a Wenger for a Wotte!

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

I somehow doubt we'll be able to offload him. I have it on good authority he can't pass, can't strike a dead-ball, can't shoot or score goals, is selfish, indisciplined, doesn't play for the team or track back. He is truly shocking.

 

He'll never make it as a good AM, he's too lightweight. I think we should have taken the 750k we were offered in the Summer. L1 quality at best.

 

Don't you just love the difference 6 months and fickle fans make?

[S-Clarke]

How anyone can say Walcott went too early to arsenal and it went against him is clearly deluded

 

completley agree, it was the best club he could have joined.

 

jesus...he's on the front cover of the new fifa, i think that show's he's respected as one of the best players in europe at the mo...just a shame about the injuries.

[rooney]

Of course Adam will go eventually, as it will take us a few seasons to get back to the premiership. However, the money we can get, as it will not be a fire sale,will enable us to strengthen the team to ensure our aspirations come true.

[Give it to Ron]

Whilst I think Adam has a talent I am not so sure he is Premiership material, he lacks the one thing that you need at that level and thats pace.

Yes he has fantastic ability on the ball at this level but can that be transferred up 2 levels against far better quality defenders...mostly internationals?

I think he will move on in the summer but can see it being to one of the top CCC not Premiership it just may be a recently promoted CCC side though.

[Nineteen Canteen]

How anyone can say Walcott went too early to arsenal and it went against him is clearly deluded

 

Rooney was playing Premier league football at 16 but had the physique to deal with it, Walcott didn't. All I am saying is that maybe there is a case at that age to play regular football to build a resistance to the knocks and scrapes encountered from the rise of youth to senior football.

 

Walcott IMO would have benefitted from a loan back deal to Saints under the watchful eye of both clubs. It is deluded to discount other theories for a player so talented and yet so injury prone. You can have a supercar straight from the showroom and it will soon deteriorate for the purpose it was original intended if it does not get used regularly.

 

There are countless examples of the bigger clubs trying to hoover up the best talent from home and abroad and for the home grown talent what happens to them? Chelsea have one of the biggest academies in the country when was the last time a home grown talent from that academy grace the first team on a regular basis? At 16 most boys still have a lot of growing to do both mentally and physically and a move to top club could be to much too soon IMO - deluded doesn't come into it unless your mind is a closed book.

[Nineteen Canteen]

completley agree, it was the best club he could have joined.

 

jesus...he's on the front cover of the new fifa, i think that show's he's respected as one of the best players in europe at the mo...just a shame about the injuries.

 

And that is the issue I am trying to discuss. Is it just unlucky or could it be at a key time of his development he did not play enough to improve his strengthening and conditioning. Had he stayed at Saints under an option to buy or loan back both clubs may have been in a position to benefit and improve his development.

 

Being acknowledged as a great talent is one thing getting the opportunity to show it on a regular basis like his peers is another thing entirely. No one is disputing Arsenal was the best club just the timing and nature of the deal.

[krissyboy31]

[/b]

 

And that is the issue I am trying to discuss. Is it just unlucky or could it be at a key time of his development he did not play enough to improve his strengthening and conditioning. Had he stayed at Saints under an option to buy or loan back both clubs may have been in a position to benefit and improve his development.

 

Being acknowledged as a great talent is one thing getting the opportunity to show it on a regular basis like his peers is another thing entirely. No one is disputing Arsenal was the best club just the timing and nature of the deal.

 

There are plenty of other examples of players playing too much, too young and suffering accordingly. Rooney was a boy in a man's body and could handle playing week-in, week-out but Steven Gerrard suffered terribly from shin splints during his teen years because he was played too much. I think Arsene Wenger, above any other coach in this country, knows more about the psychology and physiology of young footballers.

 

Besides, he was too valuable an asset to Arsenal to risk serious injury playing elsewhere.

[mynameisthehulk]

Wise up??? My friend I have travelled this globe of ours and if there is a bigger sh!thole I have yet to see it. And I have been to Calcutta...

 

Have you been to Luton?

[Victor]

........... it just may be a recently promoted CCC side though.

 

 

 

Yep, worked for Surman.

 

 

Didn't it?

[saintfully]

Have you been to Luton?

 

Or indeed Poopey

[sperm_john]

players come and go, who gives a f, as long as we get someone decent in to replace him, its the nature of the game these days ..

[Wes Tender]

Who was the last L1 player to be signed by a Prem team? I wouldn't imagine it has happened all that often....

 

If Lallana does want to go move on then it doesn't matter how much rhetoric Cortese has spouted, he will still end up being sold. The fact that we don't need the money now is neither here nor there. We didn't have to sell Bridge for the money, he left cos he wanted to leave. It's not that Cortese hasn't explained things clearly enough to the fans it's that some of us aren't gullible to take everything said by football Chairman at face value as most of it is just good old PR. I daresay those getting all excited about Cortese's words about not being a selling club anymore were the same ones who were dribbling all over Wilde's legendary Manifesto.

 

I think that your train of thought is too much rooted in our past history, in particular the history of the past decade. When Lowe spouted forth on such matters, it was easy to dismiss it all as empty rhetoric, a bluff to try and force up the price, to inflate the player's prowess as a commodity to ensure the best price towards upping the dividend to the shareholders when we actually made a profit and a source of income to keep our head above water when we were in dire financial straits. Everybody quickly came to realise that Wilde's utterances were also all p*ss and wind.

 

Had ML been our owner at the time of the Bridge move, it was feasible that if we wanted to keep him, we were in the Premiership and could afford to pay him the wages that would have satisfied him, if we wanted to. What was obvious, was that we were totally incapable of that option under the Lowe board.

 

At the moment, it is not possible, except from a position of cynicism, to form any judgement about the probity of what Cortese says, as there is no precedent. I personally accept Cortese's position that we are not a selling club anymore. We certainly don't need to sell any player we don't want to just to balance the books. That is not the same as having a player who wishes to be with another club, either because he wants to earn more money, or because he is not getting games. If a player wants to leave, it is better that he goes, but that does not mean that we cannot inflate the purchase price to the highest level if we want to keep him. We would do that because it is good business practise, not because we have to.

 

Unless proven otherwise, I will take exception to Cortese and Liebherr being lumped together with all the other Chairmen and owners in British football, as on the face of it so far, we have been exceptionally lucky to have people in charge of our club who are head and shoulders better than probably 95% of the owners of other clubs.

[Saint_clark]

Yep, worked for Surman.

 

 

Didn't it?

 

Surman has been injured, but he came on away to Chelsea and looked decent in a team of sh*t.

[Saint]

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/4761625.Saints_to_warn_hands_off_over_potential_Lallana_bids/?ref=rss

 

I expect he will eventually go, but i just hope he's helped us to a better position by that time.

[ringwood]

I wonder if there had been internet forums when Le Tiss was in his best form whether we'd all of had him sold off?

 

I don't personally know Adam, but whose to say that he's not happy with being idolized by the fans of the club he's grown up with?

 

Seems Matt was tempted by several offers but remained here, yes I know the money is different now, but in reality footballers have always it seems earnt far more than the fan on the terrace, lets just enjoy watching the lad play, savour the goals and roll with it.

Edited 26 November, 2009 by ringwood
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[saint_bert]

Yep must of been abysmal training and getting an apprenticeship from one of the best footballers in the world at that time Thierry Henry.

He has been unlucky with injuries....that doesn't mean he hasn't learnt anything watching, training and being coached by some of the best.

Afterall he could of turned down the chance of a Wenger for a Wotte!

 

Didnt learn to much then, as ive never seen Theo use his hands :wink:

[Give it to Ron]

Didnt learn to much then, as ive never seen Theo use his hands :wink:

 

Probably because he didn't want to dislocate his shoulder again ;-)

[John B]

I think that your train of thought is too much rooted in our past history, in particular the history of the past decade. When Lowe spouted forth on such matters, it was easy to dismiss it all as empty rhetoric, a bluff to try and force up the price, to inflate the player's prowess as a commodity to ensure the best price towards upping the dividend to the shareholders when we actually made a profit and a source of income to keep our head above water when we were in dire financial straits. Everybody quickly came to realise that Wilde's utterances were also all p*ss and wind.

 

Had ML been our owner at the time of the Bridge move, it was feasible that if we wanted to keep him, we were in the Premiership and could afford to pay him the wages that would have satisfied him, if we wanted to. What was obvious, was that we were totally incapable of that option under the Lowe board.

 

At the moment, it is not possible, except from a position of cynicism, to form any judgement about the probity of what Cortese says, as there is no precedent. I personally accept Cortese's position that we are not a selling club anymore. We certainly don't need to sell any player we don't want to just to balance the books. That is not the same as having a player who wishes to be with another club, either because he wants to earn more money, or because he is not getting games. If a player wants to leave, it is better that he goes, but that does not mean that we cannot inflate the purchase price to the highest level if we want to keep him. We would do that because it is good business practise, not because we have to.

 

Unless proven otherwise, I will take exception to Cortese and Liebherr being lumped together with all the other Chairmen and owners in British football, as on the face of it so far, we have been exceptionally lucky to have people in charge of our club who are head and shoulders better than probably 95% of the owners of other clubs.

 

 

I must admit I have no idea what ML and NC are like as well as other football club owners.

 

 

So I dont know what their plans are with regard to future sales of football players and their wages but paying excessive wages to players in comparison to others does not seem a recipe for success.

 

 

With the advent of agents it seems very difficult for talented players to stay with the smaller clubs as in years gone by .

 

 

To succeed internationally most players have to move to the top clubs and get involved in European Football so realistically we like nearly all of the others will probably be a selling club for the forseeable future.

 

 

With regard to Lallana I would really be interested in his contractual status which I thought ended in 2011 if it does not end then the rest of the post is meaningless.

 

 

If it ends in 2011 can he move clubs with no transfer fee being involved or would SFC receive compensation.

 

If he does want to stay what is the reason for not extending his contract now and increasing his wages?

 

I he wont sign another contract and wants to leave when is the best time for SFC to sell him

[once_bitterne]

Unless proven otherwise, I will take exception to Cortese and Liebherr being lumped together with all the other Chairmen and owners in British football, as on the face of it so far, we have been exceptionally lucky to have people in charge of our club who are head and shoulders better than probably 95% of the owners of other clubs.

 

I have not the faintest idea what facts exist to back that statement up! We are certainly in a far better place than we have been before as we no longer have to run the club in a way that will at least break even but I can see many owners who have done far more for their clubs (and therefore in your words must be 'better') than ML. He inherited a club with a great infrastructure, ground, etc. Yes he has paid big wages, for this League, to get the likes of Lambert, Connelly and Hammond but there are far more than 5% of owners who have done much more for their clubs. Just look at the likes of Whelan at Wigan, Madjeski at Reading, Gartside at Bolton, Jack Walker at Blackburn, Al Fayed at Fulham and even Mandaric at Portsmouth. And that's only just talking about medium sized clubs like us, I'm sure Spurs, Man City and Chelsea aren't wishing they had ML instead of Lewis, Sheikh Mansour or Abramovich.

 

ML has done a fine job taking over a club that was in a bad way but to say he is 'better' than 95% of other football club owners is getting just a little bit over-excited....

[The Angel Gabriel]

Buying and selling players is surely part and parcel of modern football. Playing in the Premiership, or better still, one of the few clubs that can realistically challenge for honours must be attractive to professional players. More commonly, taking opportunities to make as much money as possible is an understandable driver. Both of these factors will result in player moves. Our position in the league means that our best players will attract offers and may well leave. How minted the owner is will influence the selling price but is unlikely to stop the best players from going.

 

Club loyalty is a very rare commodity in modern football. That's why us fans only support the club shirt rather than the mersenaries that wear them.

[Lets B Avenue]

Buying and selling players is surely part and parcel of modern football. Playing in the Premiership, or better still, one of the few clubs that can realistically challenge for honours must be attractive to professional players. More commonly, taking opportunities to make as much money as possible is an understandable driver. Both of these factors will result in player moves. Our position in the league means that our best players will attract offers and may well leave. How minted the owner is will influence the selling price but is unlikely to stop the best players from going.

 

Club loyalty is a very rare commodity in modern football. That's why us fans only support the club shirt rather than the mersenaries that wear them.

 

Now that you have all this time on your hands, why not check your spelling?:grin:

[Secret Site Agent]

Did AP not say that he had spoken to Adam in the summer and put it to him that either he will end up polishing a bench with his bum for a couple of years, or he could put himself on the stage for a couple of years scoring goals, and then join straight into the first team, if he wants?

 

If not he should have done. It makes sense to me to stay.

[Secret Site Agent]

I have not the faintest idea what facts exist to back that statement up! We are certainly in a far better place than we have been before as we no longer have to run the club in a way that will at least break even but I can see many owners who have done far more for their clubs (and therefore in your words must be 'better') than ML. He inherited a club with a great infrastructure, ground, etc. Yes he has paid big wages, for this League, to get the likes of Lambert, Connelly and Hammond but there are far more than 5% of owners who have done much more for their clubs. Just look at the likes of Whelan at Wigan, Madjeski at Reading, Gartside at Bolton, Jack Walker at Blackburn, Al Fayed at Fulham and even Mandaric at Portsmouth. And that's only just talking about medium sized clubs like us, I'm sure Spurs, Man City and Chelsea aren't wishing they had ML instead of Lewis, Sheikh Mansour or Abramovich.

 

ML has done a fine job taking over a club that was in a bad way but to say he is 'better' than 95% of other football club owners is getting just a little bit over-excited....

 

I bet there are some that wish ML had taken over them instead of us.

[Legod Third Coming]

Have you been to Luton?

 

LMAO - you're right, it runs Middlesborough close for the enema position...

[Legod Third Coming]

Cortese told Vardy at Charlton that his ambition was to win League One.

 

How would he achieve that by selling young Adam I wonder...

[The Cat]

jesus...he's on the front cover of the new fifa, i think that show's he's respected as one of the best players in europe at the mo...

 

That also has something to so with the fact that someone high up at EA Sports is a Saints fan.

[Bearsy]

That also has something to so with the fact that someone high up at EA Sports is a Saints fan.

 

If that were true they'd have Paul Wotton on the cover.

[Wes Tender]

I have not the faintest idea what facts exist to back that statement up! We are certainly in a far better place than we have been before as we no longer have to run the club in a way that will at least break even but I can see many owners who have done far more for their clubs (and therefore in your words must be 'better') than ML. He inherited a club with a great infrastructure, ground, etc. Yes he has paid big wages, for this League, to get the likes of Lambert, Connelly and Hammond but there are far more than 5% of owners who have done much more for their clubs. Just look at the likes of Whelan at Wigan, Madjeski at Reading, Gartside at Bolton, Jack Walker at Blackburn, Al Fayed at Fulham and even Mandaric at Portsmouth. And that's only just talking about medium sized clubs like us, I'm sure Spurs, Man City and Chelsea aren't wishing they had ML instead of Lewis, Sheikh Mansour or Abramovich.

 

ML has done a fine job taking over a club that was in a bad way but to say he is 'better' than 95% of other football club owners is getting just a little bit over-excited....

 

Can't say that I'm particularly impressed with your list. You've pretty well named most of the examples available and the list was already getting a bit thin when you got to Fayed and Mandaric.

 

I stand by the qualification that I started my post with; that was that unless proven otherwise, Liebherr and Cortese seem on the face of it different to the majority of Chairmen of other clubs and IMO better.

[Ozkeith2]

He will stay until the end of the season. If we go up - he'll stay & play in the CCC. If we fail to gain promotion - he'll be off 'for sure'.

 

I suspect he won't be the only one who goes if we don't win promotion.

We have some good players - some of the best in this division - many of whom could do a job at a higher level.

 

Of course, the up-side of having so many good players is that we'll probably make the play-offs.

[Windmill Arm 2]

You didn't read what I said did you?

 

 

He did, but as Legod said in his autobiography, if a player leaves its usually for the money, not to improve their career. If Adam decides to sit on the bench at a mid table premiership club, it will be for the money. If i'm honest, I would.

But right now he's here at Saints, and he's banging them in, so lets try and convince him to stay.

[musesaint]

People need to realise that the landscape has changed

 

For the first time in decades we do NOT have to sell our best players to keep the club afloat

 

If Lallana goes it would only be because he really wanted to go and AP counldn't persuade him to stay.

 

Lallana isn't as stupid as some ....and recognises that at his age a year or so with regular appearances is better than warming your arse on a bench in the Premiership

[John B]

People need to realise that the landscape has changed

 

For the first time in decades we do NOT have to sell our best players to keep the club afloat

 

If Lallana goes it would only be because he really wanted to go and AP counldn't persuade him to stay.

 

Lallana isn't as stupid as some ....and recognises that at his age a year or so with regular appearances is better than warming your arse on a bench in the Premiership

 

I think you will find that most of the players we have sold to Premiership clubs wanted to move but just because we have new owners it may not mean that the club does not have to balance the books.

[up and away]

Originally Posted by musesaint

People need to realise that the landscape has changed

 

For the first time in decades we do NOT have to sell our best players to keep the club afloat

 

If Lallana goes it would only be because he really wanted to go and AP counldn't persuade him to stay.

 

Lallana isn't as stupid as some ....and recognises that at his age a year or so with regular appearances is better than warming your arse on a bench in the Premiership

I think you will find that most of the players we have sold to Premiership clubs wanted to move but just because we have new owners it may not mean that the club does not have to balance the books.

 

That's very true. You only have to look at the experiences of all the other clubs. Even if you have all the money, that does not mean you can hang onto a player. It does mean you can pay higher salaries to keep some happy but eventually the books will have to be balanced. Liebherr is no different in that respect and if Lallana's contract is running low and he wants out, I am sure a deal will be done as it is with all other clubs.