Thedelldays Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 Not that many millions, not compared to Peterborough or Leicester, mind you their results were far far better.I mean compared to Leicester's last season our results must be considered as p*ss poor. peterborough bought from non league...quite a bit from non league
Window Cleaner Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 peterborough bought from non league...quite a bit from non league I thought they spent 8 million or something like that, perhaps there were debts to pay off or something of that ilk.
Thedelldays Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 I thought they spent 8 million or something like that, perhaps there were debts to pay off or something of that ilk. their best players are from non league (i think)
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 2 in that case,plus at least 1 squad player. Plus Trotman and maybe Mellis as well. who?
Andy_Porter Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 their best players are from non league (i think) Yep. Boyd, McLean and Mackail-Smith. Joe Lewis Signed for £500,000 due to promotion Ryan Bennett Signed for £500,000 Gabriel Zakuani Signed for £375,000 George Boyd Signed for £260,000 Tommy Rowe Signed for £225,000 Toumani Diagouraga Signed for £200,000 Lee Frecklington Signed for £175,000 Dominic Green Signed for £175,000 Aaron McLean Signed for £150,000 Sergio Torres Signed for £150,000 Craig Mackail-Smith Signed for £125,000
once_bitterne Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 Lallana, Thomas and Bart I can't see Thomas leaving, esp if we lose Trotman. We would have no reason to want to move him on and I really can't see anyone coming in for him. Lallana is doing ok at this level but struggled in the CCC, given this and the fact that Prem teams rarely buy from L1, I can't see him leaving either. Bart could well go, no great loss, Forecast is equally as good/bad.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 Lallana, Thomas and Bart ITK or a guess
Thedelldays Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 ITK or a guess he is ITK...I know this as I am ITK
Glasgow_Saint Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 he is ITK...I know this as I am ITK In The Kitchen?
Window Cleaner Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 ITK or a guess A guess of course;) Thomas will leave this January, he really doesn't fit into the plans and AP has already said we can't really afford him,plus I think he is out of contract next summer and will probably not want to take a major wage cut. Lallana will want away because ...well he will ,trust me. Bart is probably a better keeper (on his day) than KD, but he isn't in the plans,or at least I don't think he is. On the other hand I fully expect Saga to be still hanging around the place until June 2010. Nobody is going to pay him what we are so he might as well hang around and keep drawing his megabucks for another 6 months.If we want to get shot of him,well then we'll have to pay him off.
John B Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 Lallana will stay for another season if we get promoted next season. Surely it depends on money his contract ends in 2011 not sure SFC can offer him wages that he wants. How much will Saints get for him if he leaves in June 2011?
Window Cleaner Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 Lallana will stay for another season if we get promoted next season. Doubt it myself. You all like to think he will but he won't.It's not even about money, it's about recognition.
John B Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 Doubt it myself. You all like to think he will but he won't.It's not even about money, it's about recognition. Surely SFC want to get the most money they can for Lallana. Not sure they can offer him a contract that will acceptable to club and player. Dont think SFC will wait to 2011 to see what happens
Viking Warrior Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 I am not sure we need any loans at this stage , we have a huge squad and need to shift a number of players out, The smaller squad would lead to a greater competition for places. Even Sagger would start to fight for a place if he new he was close to playing first team football but as he isnt , he will not go that extra mile meanwhile he will happily pick up his salary week in week out
Jimmy Gabriel's Halo Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 I get the gut feeling that a quick defensive midfielder would be a good option for a loan signing as a bit of extra protection for our CB's who do lack pace but who is there ? Come January I would like to see Brett Pitman signed from AFCB. He could easily step up from L2.
The boy done well Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 Plymouth OS is saying we've taken someone called George Donnelly on trial with a view to a loan after he impressed in a reserve game. Never heard of him.
krissyboy31 Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 Plymouth OS is saying we've taken someone called George Donnelly on trial with a view to a loan after he impressed in a reserve game. Never heard of him. Yes he scored their late equaliser in the Ressie match. I remember the Connolly, Donnelly thing.
Saint_clark Posted 24 November, 2009 Posted 24 November, 2009 Yes he scored their late equaliser in the Ressie match. I remember the Connolly, Donnelly thing. Ah yes.
david in sweden Posted 25 November, 2009 Posted 25 November, 2009 Thierry Henry... Hands up everyone who thinks that's a good idea !
david in sweden Posted 25 November, 2009 Posted 25 November, 2009 new goalie please We've got one already,but if he can't cut it by New Year be sure AP is already ahead of you .
david in sweden Posted 25 November, 2009 Posted 25 November, 2009 Surely he has enough players now or is he saying the ones he brought in are not good enough. I think he's long-sighted enough to know that a few more injuries like Kelvin's ....or Jaidi, or Lambert....might leave us in the sh*t.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 25 November, 2009 Author Posted 25 November, 2009 As long as AP is bringing in players who are better in their position than who we have currently, then surely it's a good thing? Also allows him to try and ship out more youngsters, to gain experience, and those who aren't getting games, in the hope their 'new' club turns the move into a permanent one.
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 26 November, 2009 Author Posted 26 November, 2009 90 mins to go until the loan window shuts - I guess it's not looking that likely that we'll sign someone unless Donnelly's trial has gone well enough to be turned into a loan.
John B Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 I think he's long-sighted enough to know that a few more injuries like Kelvin's ....or Jaidi, or Lambert....might leave us in the sh*t. That is ridiculous - he should plan for injuries that is the point of a squad. For goodness sake we are only in League 1 and have a large staff compared with other teams
hypochondriac Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 That is ridiculous - he should plan for injuries that is the point of a squad. For goodness sake we are only in League 1 and have a large staff compared with other teams Of mainly rubbish (comparatively.) outside the first team.
VectisSaint Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 Thinking about it' date=' didn't someone say recently they'd heard a whisper that we might be after Warren Feeney, if we could move Saga on in January? Maybe we'll try and loan him in before then?[/quote'] Feeney has gone to Sheff Wed on loan, initially for a month
John B Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 Of mainly rubbish (comparatively.) outside the first team. Like most other teams perhaps?
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 Feeney has gone to Sheff Wed on loan, initially for a month AP too slow!
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 Of mainly rubbish (comparatively.) outside the first team. Most teams outside the top 10 in the prem rely heavily on the 1st team staying fit and in form. Teams like United and Chelsea will have strengh and quality in depth but not many sides have that. L1 sides are lucky if they have a decent 11 - a strong back-up would be a real luxory in this awful league. I think I could get in most sides and I don't play anymore.
hypochondriac Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 Like most other teams perhaps? But we want to be better than other teams (we certainly have more resources.) We also want to not be severely weakened if one or two key players get injured.
John B Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 But we want to be better than other teams (we certainly have more resources.) We also want to not be severely weakened if one or two key players get injured. I dont disagree with but football injuries and suspensions disrupt teams. Well managed teams overcome problems better than others. Getting Loan players to cover injuries is mostly a lottery really
hypochondriac Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 I dont disagree with but football injuries and suspensions disrupt teams. Well managed teams overcome problems better than others. Getting Loan players to cover injuries is mostly a lottery really Well managed teams overcome problems better with players who are only a bit worse than the first team. We have the likes of Pulis and Molyneux FFS. We need to clear some of the exceptionally awful backup out and get some not bad backup in. I never mentioned anything about loans though I accept that that's what is in the title of the thread.
up and away Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 Pardew knows what his best team is at the moment, but if we suffer from injuries and loss of form (Trotman?) we have very little backup. I think the only players on the bench at the moment who Pardew would consider as an adequate replacement are Thomas, Murty and Papa. We need a deeper squad, especially as the games are now coming thick and fast. I don't think Pardew does know his best team at the present, it certainly looks like he knows the best payers but that is a different matter. Now with Murty back he may well find his best team, we should know in a few games. I get the gut feeling that a quick defensive midfielder would be a good option for a loan signing as a bit of extra protection for our CB's who do lack pace but who is there ? Come January I would like to see Brett Pitman signed from AFCB. He could easily step up from L2. Where exactly are you going to play Pitman, drop Lallana? I just cannot see the logic in fans saying we should go for Pitman? Yes he is a good player and scoring goals for Bournemouth, but he comes from the MLT school of putting a shift in. As for putting him as defensive midfield, Schniederlin would stand up better. We definitely need a cloned version of Hammond because we have no one capable of standing in for him, but it's not Pitman.
John B Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 Well managed teams overcome problems better with players who are only a bit worse than the first team. We have the likes of Pulis and Molyneux FFS. We need to clear some of the exceptionally awful backup out and get some not bad backup in. I never mentioned anything about loans though I accept that that's what is in the title of the thread. I totally agree with you but I thought this thread was about getting in loans before the window closes tonight. I cant see the point of that as it is unlikely that many decent players will be available but yes in the Window I would expect us to get in players.
hypochondriac Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 I totally agree with you but I thought this thread was about getting in loans before the window closes tonight. I cant see the point of that as it is unlikely that many decent players will be available but yes in the Window I would expect us to get in players. Fair enough!
Wade Garrett Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 The one player I've seen this season who I'd like us to sign is that lad from Bristol Rovers who came on as sub and tore us apart before scoring a screamer at the end.
saint_stevo Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 Leeds went a bit mental, Capaldi, Ephraim and Martin (GK, Liverpool) all in.
Smirking_Saint Posted 26 November, 2009 Posted 26 November, 2009 Leeds went a bit mental, Capaldi, Ephraim and Martin (GK, Liverpool) all in. It's cos they know they have to play us ?? Honestly though, this HAS to be their year this year, if they don't do it, i can't see them ever getting out. Pretty sure they are just going for broke
David Strover Posted 27 November, 2009 Posted 27 November, 2009 Didn't they do that before....and that is what happened?
The Godfather Posted 27 November, 2009 Posted 27 November, 2009 I think AP will sign several players during the January transfer window, at a guess he'll be looking at loans till the end of the season. Their is no point in signing players for the sake of it if they are not of the quality required.
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 November, 2009 Posted 27 November, 2009 (edited) Leeds will win the league this year - im sure of that. They have a decent team and have added value at every oppurtunity. Some very astute signings and real intent shown. Saints on the other hand seem lucklusture with our transfer targets - Feeney was a target but we missed out to Sheff Weds, likewise Max Gradel was on APs wanted list but again our leisurely pace lost him to Leeds. Edited 27 November, 2009 by Glasgow_Saint
Scudamore Posted 27 November, 2009 Posted 27 November, 2009 Saints on the other hand seem lucklusture with our transfer targets - Feeney was a target but we missed out to Sheff Weds, likewise Max Gradel was on APs wanted list but again our leisurely pace lost him to Leeds. You have no idea as to our "pace" in transfer dealings...
hypochondriac Posted 27 November, 2009 Posted 27 November, 2009 Leeds will win the league this year - im sure of that. They have a decent team and have added value at every oppurtunity. Some very astute signings and real intent shown. Saints on the other hand seem lucklusture with our transfer targets - Feeney was a target but we missed out to Sheff Weds, likewise Max Gradel was on APs wanted list but again our leisurely pace lost him to Leeds. Source?
krissyboy31 Posted 27 November, 2009 Posted 27 November, 2009 Saints on the other hand seem lucklusture with our transfer targets - Feeney was a target but we missed out to Sheff Weds, likewise Max Gradel was on APs wanted list but again our leisurely pace lost him to Leeds. We don't need any more loanees, we've got 4 as it is! If we need to strengthen the team further, it will be permanent signings in January and extending the loan periods of those we already have, signing THEM on permanently or replacing them with other loans for the remainder of the season.
Give it to Ron Posted 27 November, 2009 Posted 27 November, 2009 Saints on the other hand seem lucklusture with our transfer targets - Feeney was a target but we missed out to Sheff Weds, likewise Max Gradel was on APs wanted list but again our leisurely pace lost him to Leeds. Are you being serious or is this another one of your wind up posts? Last time I looked Sheff Weds were a division higher.....tough choice for Feeney! "Ok Max....Leeds who look like walking the league this year are interested in you or there is Southampton who are in the relegation zone"....you decide!
ART Posted 27 November, 2009 Posted 27 November, 2009 Surprised to see the illustrious Stern John has been signed by Roy Keane on loan at Ipswich. Wasn't it Keane who gave us John as part of the Kenwyne Jones deal? http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/teams/i/ipswich_town/8381985.stm
John B Posted 27 November, 2009 Posted 27 November, 2009 We don't need any more loanees, we've got 4 as it is! If we need to strengthen the team further, it will be permanent signings in January and extending the loan periods of those we already have, signing THEM on permanently or replacing them with other loans for the remainder of the season. Yes very true . Perhaps a CB and Striker
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 November, 2009 Posted 27 November, 2009 Here is AP on his way to negotiate a new signing - he has heard that other clubs are also interested so is racing to the scene.
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