bungle Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Think our support is average, not bad, but certainly not great. Thorpe-Le-Saint has a point to an extent. The clubs who make the most noise: Leeds, Millwall, Stoke, Sheff Wed (sometimes), Man U (away from home) tend not to be followed by families. I would also agree about the cringeworthy "left side/right side" chant which seems to have everyone ejaculating after an away game because of how great it was. It's always sh*t. Always. I stand in the Northam at home and would say that: 1) The majority sing far too fast, 2) Why do people clap so much during songs, esp 'Alan Pardew's Red & White Army' - this only helps to speed the chant up, and thus make it crap, 3) People hit the back board too fast and 4) There do appear to be a lot of morons who can't sing a song with more than 5 words in it (Lambert song is getting nowhere at SMS) and 5) Can someone please teach these idiots the tune to "baby give it up" which was the Rasiak and is now the Connolly chant. it is embarrassing to listen to. There we are. My "To whom it may concern" rant. p.s. I will be at Hartlepool tomorrow doing things "properly". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Think our support is average, not bad, but certainly not great. Thorpe-Le-Saint has a point to an extent. The clubs who make the most noise: Leeds, Millwall, Stoke, Sheff Wed (sometimes), Man U (away from home) tend not to be followed by families. I would also agree about the cringeworthy "left side/right side" chant which seems to have everyone ejaculating after an away game because of how great it was. It's always sh*t. Always. I stand in the Northam at home and would say that: 1) The majority sing far too fast, 2) Why do people clap so much during songs, esp 'Alan Pardew's Red & White Army' - this only helps to speed the chant up, and thus make it crap, 3) People hit the back board too fast and 4) There do appear to be a lot of morons who can't sing a song with more than 5 words in it (Lambert song is getting nowhere at SMS) and 5) Can someone please teach these idiots the tune to "baby give it up" which was the Rasiak and is now the Connolly chant. it is embarrassing to listen to. There we are. My "To whom it may concern" rant. p.s. I will be at Hartlepool tomorrow doing things "properly". Can't disagree with any of that really. Tomorrow night will be good. Hopefully our Russian Saints brothers can install some CSKA / Dynamo / Spartak songs to add to our range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I would also agree about the cringeworthy "left side/right side" chant which seems to have everyone ejaculating after an away game because of how great it was. It's always sh*t. Always. Quite acceptable in away Ashes test matches, where the "middle" is added and all 3 sing and "You're the Convicts, over there!" Otherwise I completely agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I go to spurs a few times a season with family who are season ticket holders, was there today and I can confirm they do a fantastic rendition of oh when the saints, I almost feel embaressed. When sung slowly it is such an atmospherhic song. That said they do have microphones hanging down from the stands to increase the volume the cheating ****s! The only time I went to Spurs they have such "fantastic" fans they were handing out song sheets so the locals knew what to sing!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Quite acceptable in away Ashes test matches, where the "middle" is added and all 3 sing and "You're the Convicts, over there!" Otherwise I completely agree! It was still fairly cringeworthy mate. I only did Melbourne and Sydney on the last tour but that song got used a bit too much. Cant beat a bit of "Everywhere we go" with Jimmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 The only time I went to Spurs they have such "fantastic" fans they were handing out song sheets so the locals knew what to sing!!!! Watch (& listen) to this mate, when was the last time you heard Saints "oh when the saints" as good as this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Can't disagree with any of that really. Tomorrow night will be good. Hopefully our Russian Saints brothers can install some CSKA / Dynamo / Spartak songs to add to our range. Going off subject slightly, but it is now certainly a myth that English supporters are the loudest/most passionate in the world, especially when compared to those from places like Germany/Austria/Croatia/Greece/most of the former eastern bloc countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 It was still fairly cringeworthy mate. I only did Melbourne and Sydney on the last tour but that song got used a bit too much. Cant beat a bit of "Everywhere we go" with Jimmy. Who?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I think the level of boisterous support can certainly be linked to class i.e. the more deprived an area the higher the vociferous support - Billy Connolly has said that his gigs are always better in towns where living is hard and I'm inclined to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moscow Saint (Zhezlov) Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Quality, it looked like a good flag and the randomness of it probably would have impressed the Norwich fans, if you were in the Northam how did you get your flag over there? If you are going to Hartlepool (which I think I read somewhere) try and put it up in the ground wouldn't mind getting a picture of it. Will keep an eye out, do you all look like Nikolai Valuev? As I understood they asked the stewards for the assistance to find an appropriate place. The lads will be there with the same flag so you could try to identify them :-) Not at all - our lads a bit ugly maybe but definitely not so massive and aggressive :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny R Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I think the level of boisterous support can certainly be linked to class i.e. the more deprived an area the higher the vociferous support - Billy Connolly has said that his gigs are always better in towns where living is hard and I'm inclined to agree. That explains why Stoke fans are so good because Stoke is a disgusting cesspit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moscow Saint (Zhezlov) Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 As I understood they asked the stewards for the assistance to find an appropriate place. The lads will be there with the same flag so you could try to identify them :-) Not at all - our lads a bit ugly maybe but definitely not so massive and aggressive :-) As I just heard the lads coulnd't travel from Soton to Hartlepool - the buses are full and the trains are too expensive. So..... :-( Maybe someone could help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 That is because, unfortunatly, the majority of our fans are 'happy clappers' who wear face paint etc. Teams like Stoke have a support largely made up of young-ish men, whereas Saints has been marketed as a 'Family Club' for years and hence kills any potential decent support as there are far too many middle class people there who just 'don't get it'. You can spot them a mile off: They are the ones who take in a full weeks worth of shopping in a Tesco's bag and scoff their way through it during the 90 mins. I'm not against families at football by any stretch of the imagination, but some of them just arn't 'football people'. +1 The best thing Saints could do is shed the "family club" image. The more raucous fans we have the better. It would set an example and a standard. Foreign fans and clubs would know what they were messing with if we sang properly, as opposed to what we have now. I'm not a thug, but a few slaps wouldn't go amiss either. Nothing too outrageous, no knives or anything, but a few firm slaps, like the old days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 +1 The best thing Saints could do is shed the "family club" image. The more raucous fans we have the better. It would set an example and a standard. Foreign fans and clubs would know what they were messing with if we sang properly, as opposed to what we have now. I'm not a thug, but a few slaps wouldn't go amiss either. Nothing too outrageous, no knives or anything, but a few firm slaps, like the old days. Rubbish "trolling". Must try hader, far too obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 As I just heard the lads coulnd't travel from Soton to Hartlepool - the buses are full and the trains are too expensive. So..... :-( Maybe someone could help? Why did they leave it so late to book their travel?? Can't believe there is no space on the buses, but they do fill up with a day or so to go. Can't help myself, but hopefully there'll be someone on here who can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I think the atmosphere we create at home games is pretty decent compared with the home atmospheres created by most teams we play. Yes, this is correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 You will never EVER get a 'roar' at SMS. Away games, only if you are lucky will ever get a sizeable noise from our lot. Half the time, if you attempt to start a chant people look at you like you are insane! On this point, you surely cannot tell me that I'm wrong. Frankly, if you don't like the songs people sing then ****ing do something about it and come up with some new ones or try and start singing them yourselves, rather than leaving it up to the so called 'lunatic fringe'. You may suprise yourself! Lets put it this way, I can remember going to the FA cup replay against Spuds at The Dell (when Rozenthal got that hat-trick), I must have only been about 12, but I can remember as clear as a bell, people behind me discussing the price of food, and since then I knew what type of person shouldn't be at a football match: If you want a decent atmosphere, you need to get rid of these morons, they sap the life from the place. I'm no Stone Island/Burberry clad teen who only sings "Pompey fan on a string", but if these kids are the only ones who have the decency to try and create an atmosphere who are you lot to identify them as the problem for singing 'too fast'?!? My advice is try and ****ing keep up!! I'm not going to make an apology for my remarks and I'll stand by them; if you want a decent atmosphere at SMS or away from home, YOU have to make it, you cannot rely on everyone else. :lol: If I want that kind of atmoshpere I'll go to KFC. You are talking garbage and you know it. Get your tweed blazer on and fall in line Thorpey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I think the level of boisterous support can certainly be linked to class i.e. the more deprived an area the higher the vociferous support - Billy Connolly has said that his gigs are always better in towns where living is hard and I'm inclined to agree. and the higher chance of getting stabbed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 This is the funniest thread I have read in years! My fellow upper-middle class commuters to London think I am insane sat here laughing out loud..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 (edited) :lol: If I want that kind of atmoshpere I'll go to KFC. You are talking garbage and you know it. Get your tweed blazer on and fall in line Thorpey. You know it's the truth though. The Chapel = SILENCE, the Kingsland (bar a few brave souls in the corner) = SILENCE, The Itchen certainly isn't what it used to be since they closed blocks one and two and so all that is left to make a real noise is the Northam. Since the Northam is apparently, according to the majority of people on here, full of oiks and chavvies, fair play to these 'kids' for giving it a go. If you want to pass a ****ing comment 'Benji' I suggest you either start some of your own chants or sing louder. It's as if a number of you on here have been scared into silence by the club, by fellow supporters around you in the ground or by the 'horrible little street urchins' from up north who we seem to play week in, week out. Edited 24 November, 2009 by Thorpe-le-Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 I'm no Stone Island/Burberry clad teen who only sings "Pompey fan on a string" That is a silly one but I always join in because I like the tune. Also it does make a change from 'red army' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 That is a silly one but I always join in because I like the tune. Also it does make a change from 'red army' Well why not make up a chant to "Tom Hark" that adds value to supporting the team? Could be used for a player (say Connolly, because the 'Baby Give it Up' sounds naff for him) or any actual COYR type song that everybody can get behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 What a load of generaliastion going on in this thread, people citing Millwall as an example of a good atmosphere completly display therir ignorance, the New Den can not be described as raucous at all. Clubs are louder per head away from home but so are we and our home atmosphere is good, over the years I certainly haven't be blown away by many clubs. I think we should stop being so hard on ourselves. If people want different songs then start them, if people really think SFC will be a better place with more hollies then stop moaning about and go slap an away fan, if you are a little bit scared start on a granny or a kid and work you way up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 And 'Southampton Pride of the South', and 'Alan Pardew's Red Army' and 'We all follow Southampton'..... The list could go on actually. Indeed. It seems to me some people think fans aren't original and loud if they aren't singing for the full 90 minutes without singing the same song twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voteforpedro Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Why are people surprised that our atmosphere isn't up to the same standard as Stoke and Spurs? You can't possibly compare a League 1 team with Premiership stadiums, which are full every week, playing in the 'best league in the world'. When St Marys sells out the atmosphere is fantastic. When there are 20,000 in a 32,000 seater stadium it is still one of the best atmospheres in the division. And JRM, this link you posted is from Spurs v Chelsea at Wembley. You can't really compare that to Saints v MK Dons at st marys, although it is a good rendition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Think our support is average, not bad, but certainly not great. Thorpe-Le-Saint has a point to an extent. The clubs who make the most noise: Leeds, Millwall, Stoke, Sheff Wed (sometimes), Man U (away from home) tend not to be followed by families. I would also agree about the cringeworthy "left side/right side" chant which seems to have everyone ejaculating after an away game because of how great it was. It's always sh*t. Always. I stand in the Northam at home and would say that: 1) The majority sing far too fast, 2) Why do people clap so much during songs, esp 'Alan Pardew's Red & White Army' - this only helps to speed the chant up, and thus make it crap, 3) People hit the back board too fast and 4) There do appear to be a lot of morons who can't sing a song with more than 5 words in it (Lambert song is getting nowhere at SMS) and 5) Can someone please teach these idiots the tune to "baby give it up" which was the Rasiak and is now the Connolly chant. it is embarrassing to listen to. There we are. My "To whom it may concern" rant. p.s. I will be at Hartlepool tomorrow doing things "properly". Agree with everything except the Lambert chant - the actual WORDS were getting sung by a lot more people than before last saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 We're better than Charlton at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Said it loads of times and I'll say it again - if you want to get the whole ground joining in it has to be a SONG, not a chant. Spot the connection with the following (in no particular order) OWTSGMI (Spurs stylee) Delilah (Stoke) Blue Moon (Man City) I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles (West Ham) Goodnight Irene ( Brizzle Rovers) Blaydon Races (Toon Army) Pick any one from about 50 (ManUre Away) You'll Never Walk Alone (Liverpool / Celtic) too name just a few. The words don't matter they are all SUNG to established tunes AT THE CORRECT SPEED. It gives the whole ground chance to join in, it's not already over by the time the other end of the ground has worked out what it is. SONGS have long notes and harmonies that again create atmosphere - chants don't. When a SONG is SUNG properly at a ground it's easier to join in than it is to ignore it. The nearest SMS ever comes to the Whole ground singing is "It's All Southampton", because of the reasons above. More often than not the away fans also join in with it, obviously replacing the team name. So if you want atmosphere stop chanting, start singing , and shoot the guys in the back row that bang the boards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 There's not one ground in this country that comes anywhere near most Eastern European or South American stadiums for atmosphere. Watch any European game involving British teams and usually a few hundred foreigners out-noise the home fans over here and although Brits travel in the thousands you barely know they're in some of these grounds abroad. I love SMS, she's a lovely stadium but dead from the waist down. South of the halfway line the place is comatosed, any noise coming, mainly, from (half) the Northam end is for most of the time a gentle sing-along. Some barely raise their voices, some just clap along, it aint in any way imtimidating. Gotta admit I prefer my atmosphere raw, to be honest menacing, even the occassional blood-curdling roar when we're attacking would be nice. Having said that SMS is still better than many grounds in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Said it loads of times and I'll say it again - if you want to get the whole ground joining in it has to be a SONG, not a chant. Spot the connection with the following (in no particular order) OWTSGMI (Spurs stylee) Delilah (Stoke) Blue Moon (Man City) I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles (West Ham) Goodnight Irene ( Brizzle Rovers) Blaydon Races (Toon Army) Pick any one from about 50 (ManUre Away) You'll Never Walk Alone (Liverpool / Celtic) too name just a few. The words don't matter they are all SUNG to established tunes AT THE CORRECT SPEED. It gives the whole ground chance to join in, it's not already over by the time the other end of the ground has worked out what it is. SONGS have long notes and harmonies that again create atmosphere - chants don't. When a SONG is SUNG properly at a ground it's easier to join in than it is to ignore it. The nearest SMS ever comes to the Whole ground singing is "It's All Southampton", because of the reasons above. More often than not the away fans also join in with it, obviously replacing the team name. So if you want atmosphere stop chanting, start singing , and shoot the guys in the back row that bang the boards Couldn't agree more!! I'll bet the Old Codger does as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 watch the 76 dvd as players are being introduced to the royals before kick off - that's how to sing OWTSGMI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Why are people surprised that our atmosphere isn't up to the same standard as Stoke and Spurs? You can't possibly compare a League 1 team with Premiership stadiums, which are full every week, playing in the 'best league in the world'. When St Marys sells out the atmosphere is fantastic. When there are 20,000 in a 32,000 seater stadium it is still one of the best atmospheres in the division. And JRM, this link you posted is from Spurs v Chelsea at Wembley. You can't really compare that to Saints v MK Dons at st marys, although it is a good rendition. Further to this we get over 20k in division 3. When i went to Stoke a few years ago with Saints there couldn't have been more than 15k there, for a Championship game, and the only 'atmosphere' was a wierd group of about 30 Stoke fans in the main stand (of all stands) who spent the entire match learing at us. So well done Stoke for singing songs and getting lots of people when you're having your best season for 25+ years. And, FWIW, that same day there was a large element of Saints 'Yoff' there and i thought it was one of the worse Saints away atmosphere's i've experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Jesus Christ. I liked the Papa Waigo version of 'Let's dance to Joy Division' by The Wombats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Why is Connell presenting it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Said it loads of times and I'll say it again - if you want to get the whole ground joining in it has to be a SONG, not a chant. Spot the connection with the following (in no particular order) OWTSGMI (Spurs stylee) Delilah (Stoke) Blue Moon (Man City) I'm Forever Blowing Bubbles (West Ham) Goodnight Irene ( Brizzle Rovers) Blaydon Races (Toon Army) Pick any one from about 50 (ManUre Away) You'll Never Walk Alone (Liverpool / Celtic) too name just a few. The words don't matter they are all SUNG to established tunes AT THE CORRECT SPEED. It gives the whole ground chance to join in, it's not already over by the time the other end of the ground has worked out what it is. SONGS have long notes and harmonies that again create atmosphere - chants don't. When a SONG is SUNG properly at a ground it's easier to join in than it is to ignore it. The nearest SMS ever comes to the Whole ground singing is "It's All Southampton", because of the reasons above. More often than not the away fans also join in with it, obviously replacing the team name. So if you want atmosphere stop chanting, start singing , and shoot the guys in the back row that bang the boards Good point we need to start singing the woolston ferry song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Good point we need to start singing the woolston ferry song! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Too much analysis and theory not enough doing. visit Liverpool MAN utd etc when Saints win , the home fans are worst than the library at Highbury. The last few years have not given many games for the Saints fans to rock SMS, but it did happen when we beat the Skates, Scousers and Norwich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Ah Norwich. I swear I nearly had a heart attack when Camera (sp?) scored. Probably the most dramatic single moment I have experienced as a Saints fan. I believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 I prefer this rendition: ..but agree that if one of the young'uns wants to hand out sond sheets then they could do a lot worse than put a smile on the old'uns faces by getting Woolston Ferry going. And JRM, this link you posted is from Spurs v Chelsea at Wembley. You can't really compare that to Saints v MK Dons at st marys, although it is a good rendition. I would wager that when Saints get to sing it at Wembley next it will be better than that absolutely no doubt in my mind. Cometh the hour and all that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Samuel Posted 25 November, 2009 Share Posted 25 November, 2009 And 'Southampton Pride of the South', and 'Alan Pardew's Red Army' and 'We all follow Southampton'..... The list could go on actually. Not forgetting the Rickie Lambert song, which has caught on really well recently! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-luco Posted 25 November, 2009 Share Posted 25 November, 2009 woolston ferry song, and paint your wagon, that would really take me back to the early eighties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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