Whitey Grandad Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I firmly believe that you should always play your best team. The longer that a team plays together the better their understanding and confidence. The money from a plum draw in the third round would also come in handy. Despite Markus's billions, I'm sure that the more income the club generates the more AP will have to strengthen the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I don't totally agree. We should give some of the youngsters a chance and fringe players but we need a certain spine we should rest Jaidi and play Trotman, and stick Wotton/Hammond in the middle of the park, also give Patterson a run out and Murty at right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I expect that the decision about who to play may well depend on what happens Tuesday night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fareham Saints Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 couldnt disagree more. Playing scoring and winning is the best thing for any player, they will all want to play and i hope they do esp as im going to the match. We want to win this why risk it so that they have a bit of a rest. There professional football players they should be able to play all season in my view. In Connolly's interview on sat he said he likes playing tuesday and saturday every week cos he prefers playing to training and loves to play, thats the attitute they should have, not can i have a rest cos im so tired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Even if i was not going to the game i would hope Saints select a decent side similar to the 1st round game with Bristol Rovers. Otherwise the club would be taking fans for mugs and should let them know beforehand if they are not taking the completion seriously. Luckily Pardew has played strong teams in cup games and realises winning games is important. I bet if Saints get through to play Man td or Arsenal etc the same people will want tickets. + 1 Surprised nobody else has mentioned this :cool:. Hopefully the club has shown it's intent to take the game seriously by asking for the extra ticket allocation, which if I remember correctly they can't give back any unsold tickets, they've already paid up front for them. Although maybe they could make up any lost revenue by not having to pay appearence fees to any players dropped :cool: It makes me laugh when people complain about playing 2 games a week, most players would by far and away play games than train. Spare a thought for players from the not too distant past who often had to play 3 times a week on pitches that were either a muddy quagmire or had more sand than grass on towards the latter part of the season. Our end of season run in 78/79 season starting with The League Cup Final at Wembley on Mar 17th followed by an Fa Cup Quarter Final tie against Arsenal on the Monday!!and replay on the Weds!!!! totted up 17 games in 54 days Bearing in mind the state of the pitches, only 1 sub (barely ever used in those days), 10 of those games were away from home including a Cup Final and QF replay, and it was pre Super duper luxury coaches etc etc and all the games were against top level teams you can see why I have little sympathy with too many games arguments. Old warhorses Bally and Phil Boyer were amongst 6 players who played in everyone of those games ... younger players please take note Obviously where the cover is good enough one or two can be rested, or at least on the bench just in case :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Just like every other game we have to play our best eleven. Anyone who thinks that a reserve team with the likes of Perry, Mills, Holmes, Paterson, Wotton etc could beat Northampton away really needs to get down to Staplewood and see quite how crap the reserve side are. We have no squad and were already without Trottman and Mellis. Playing the second string would be embarassing for the club we'd get dicked. The only time I'd consider resting a player is if they're carrying a knock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I dont get this mentality at all. You field your best side. Always. They train half days, and play a maximum of twice a week. Whats the f**king problem ? The likes of Ramsey, Paisley, Shankly et al. always played their best side. Its only that Evil Beetroot-Faced Bullying B*stard Mark I (we know who Mark II was) who started this weak team fielding concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 You always play your best team IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 You always play your best team IMHO. The FA agrees with you... RULES OF THE FA CHALLENGE CUP COMPETITION: 15a. Each team participating in a match shall represent the full available strength of each competing Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkiesaint Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I think a cup run would be great, and bring in some dosh. Assuming it is going to be fairly easy to get out of the relegation zone, but a promotion challenge unlikely, then the cup could be good for our season i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Don't know about that either, the play-offs are unreachable and we won't go down(or anywhere near it) so might as well get a bit of cup glory and then move forward next season. Agreed. JPT is the most important competition for us this season now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkiesaint Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 and wasn't it northampton who humiliated our reserves under redknapp who was proving a point to Lowe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 The FA agrees with you... RULES OF THE FA CHALLENGE CUP COMPETITION: 15a. Each team participating in a match shall represent the full available strength of each competing Club. I don't think they do, otherwise the FA would/should enforce it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 and wasn't it northampton who humiliated our reserves under redknapp who was proving a point to Lowe? Thought that was Mansfield but I agree you can't just play a "reserve" team and hope to get away with it. I do though, think some players can be rested and others given a run out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 We're in the third division and we've got nothing to play for this season in the league i.e we won't go down but we won't go up. So please explain the logic of playing an understrength side in a competition where we could potentially have a 32,000 home gate, or a 75,000 away gate in the next round? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 We're in the third division and we've got nothing to play for this season in the league i.e we won't go down but we won't go up. So please explain the logic of playing an understrength side in a competition where we could potentially have a 32,000 home gate, or a 75,000 away gate in the next round? Because some of the first XI are jaded, playing with knocks and illness and others, who will be needed over the next few months, need match practice (and not Mickey Mouse reserve league practice). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Yeah, I couldn't care less about the FA cup while we have zero chance of getting anywhere and we're doing well in the johnstone's paint trophy. Don't risk anyone. Plenty of others who need a game and could test Northampton. If we lose we lose. Bart James Perry Trotman Mills Thomson Wotton Mellis Holmes Paterson Waigo Trotman and Mellis not allowed to play, Thompson at Torquay on loan and I think already cup tied. Play the best team available get to the third round and hope to get a big club away or a poor side at home and bring in some money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I don't think they do, otherwise the FA would/should enforce it. The likes of Man Utd and Chesea can put out a reserve team that's full off multi-millionaire internationals whereas Northampton and Saints are more limited in their choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Because some of the first XI are jaded, playing with knocks and illness and others, who will be needed over the next few months, need match practice (and not Mickey Mouse reserve league practice). Whenever this line is trotted out it makes my blood boil. I've worked 60 hour weeks and played football on a Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exeter_saint Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Agree with the team in the original post, although it would be massively harsh to leave out saga for this game too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Whenever this line is trotted out it makes my blood boil. I've worked 60 hour weeks and played football on a Sunday. I used to do that and I played cr@p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Agree with the team in the original post, although it would be massively harsh to leave out saga for this game too... Get your head around the fact that Saga has gone. He's not going to play for Saints again. I think this is the opportunity to rest a few players and would play something like: Bart Murty - Thomas - Jaidi - Mills Wotton Waigo - Schneiderlin - James - Lallana Connolly Subs: Davies, Perry, Harding, Lambert, Hammond, Antonio, ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianoneils slidingtackle Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I've got a ticket for the game in the hope that Saints put a strong side out and play to win the game....every game is important, the income from a cup run should be a big plus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 We're in the third division and we've got nothing to play for this season in the league i.e we won't go down but we won't go up. So please explain the logic of playing an understrength side in a competition where we could potentially have a 32,000 home gate, or a 75,000 away gate in the next round? Totally agree. A cup run would be good for the team and us fans. I see the opening poster isn't suggesting playing a second side in the JPT now Wembley is in sniffing reach, therefore he must understand the lure of a cup run. I say go for it in all comps and see where we end up. Realistically dropping out of a cup competition isn't going to help our league campaign that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 I don't think they do, otherwise the FA would/should enforce it. they do, if a side is too under strength without a valid reason the FA fines them 10 bob or something like that.However the club doctor usually puts in a bit of overtime finding imaginary injuries and handing out sick notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 The likes of Man Utd and Chesea can put out a reserve team that's full off multi-millionaire internationals whereas Northampton and Saints are more limited in their choice. Actually, we can send out a team that have played for the first team before (e.g Bart, Paterson, McClaggon etc)... it's all relative but the FA will not enforce the "represent the full available strength" rule as it means nothing in this era of first team squads being 24+ players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 In any case our first team should be able to beat Northampton without too much trouble, then they have a week before the next game.It's not the same situation as playing Charlton on a Wednesday and then Brighton on the following Sunday.I think we should field our best available side and I'm sure we will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 In any case our first team should be able to beat Northampton without too much trouble, then they have a week before the next game.It's not the same situation as playing Charlton on a Wednesday and then Brighton on the following Sunday.I think we should field our best available side and I'm sure we will. Er... Home to Wycombe on the Tuesday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Er... Home to Wycombe on the Tuesday? Whoops, hadn't looked too closely at the fixtures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 (edited) Good chance to put Saga in the shop window and a chance for him to show a potential buyer what he has got. for me the team should be 442 against this opposition. Bart Murty Thomas Perry Mills Antonio Wooton James Holmes Saga Waigo Subs , KD , Patterson , Lallana , Connelly , Harding Edited 23 November, 2009 by saintstr1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Good chance to put Saga in the shop window and a chance for him to show a potential buyer what he has got. for me the team should be 442 against this opposition. Bart Murty Thomas Perry Mills Antonio Wooton James Holmes Saga Waigo Subs , KD , Patterson , Lallana , Connelly , Harding Ah, but then he'd be cup-tied and a less attractive player :roll:. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 November, 2009 Author Share Posted 23 November, 2009 Ah, but then he'd be cup-tied and a less attractive player :roll:. if you were buying a player for saints...would it put you off if he was cup tied for this seasons FA Cup..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 23 November, 2009 Share Posted 23 November, 2009 if you were buying a player for saints...would it put you off if he was cup tied for this seasons FA Cup..? I'll let you know once we have reached the quarter-finals (Is there a tongue-in-cheek smiley thing?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coastal Saint Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Why play a week team in the league where we have practically nothing to play for. I think we should go all out in both cups which are surely our only chance of success this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 Why play a week team in the league where we have practically nothing to play for. I think we should go all out in both cups which are surely our only chance of success this season. ????:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 RonManager[/left];509984]At the start of the season I was all for ignoring the cup competitions. However, I'm torn at the moment. Any chance of the play-offs, although not extinct, is in the balance now. In order to keep some momentum to the season and keep the interest of fans and the crowds up, I am starting to think that the cups are a way of doing this, and, if we do well, will breed confidence and also keep the profile of the club high with a view to attracting better players for next season. If DC is an example, then according to his post-match interview, everyone wants to play as much as possible. That was my view as well but it looks as if the damage has been done now and it's a long hard season ahead with very little chance of the play offs or relegation. The players looked tired following the JPT with Charlton and suffered subsequently, but that damage has already been done so we might as well go for what's left. I can't see us getting past any half decent CCC club but it's a long empty season left otherwise. I just cannot get any enthusiasm for the JPT, even if we were to win the thing. But I am sure many others would like a day out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 I just cannot get any enthusiasm for the JPT, even if we were to win the thing. But I am sure many others would like a day out. It's a lot harder to win than the FA Cup. For a Premiership team they first have to get relegated twice, then they have to beat teams like us, home and away. It's a considerable achievement and for many of the players it would be the pinnacle of their careers. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie2008 Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 IMO we should.... we cant keep playing lambert, harding, jaidi, hammond every game every week without them getting tired...lambert may need a break at some point (as with harding).. I could not care less about the FA cup this season (or next) and maybe we should give it a wide berth and put the "fringe" players out.. No. Only rest any injured players or those carrying knocks. A(n other) cup run would be a lucrative sideline especially with TV money knocking about for 'big' games. What price Saints vs. Skates @ SMS on a Saturday evening or a Sunday? A full house + extra revenue... Bring on the FA Cup and COYR! :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 24 November, 2009 Share Posted 24 November, 2009 No. Only rest any injured players or those carrying knocks. A(n other) cup run would be a lucrative sideline especially with TV money knocking about for 'big' games. What price Saints vs. Skates @ SMS on a Saturday evening or a Sunday? A full house + extra revenue... Bring on the FA Cup and COYR! :cool: Agree with you on this, only rest players if they are injured. Players in the 70's/80's never complained about playing too much, they complained if they were left out of the team. Bring on a cup run no matter what cup imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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